Math can kiss my ass

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

Seriously, it can pucker up and kiss my ass.

I hate math with all the fiery passions of hell. Math only comes in second to bush and all his buddies.

I say we vote math out of the country.

MATH CAN BITE ME.

[burythehatchet]

1. math is the language and fabric of all existance.

so yes, if it wanted to it could kiss your ass.

;)

[CanuckAmok]

4. Fuck that.

I'm with Moonbeam on this one. Fuck math.

[slutticus]

2. That's not very nice!

You know...if it wasn't for the power of mathematics, those data packets you just send to DU would have never made it. Think about that!

[Nite Owl]

3. Math as in Algebra? Oh yeah.

Actually after doing it with both boys I think I got that one down but Algebra II that's another story.

[burythehatchet]

5. did you have to balance a checkbook

or were you trying to prove an obscure theorum?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

7. Studying for the GRE

and have to make a bad-ass score to make up for my horrible-ass undergrad GPA from 12 years ago.

And I never was good at math to begin with.

AND MATH CAN KISS MY ASS!!!

Balancing a checkbook is nothing. Arithmetic I got. Math can just go away from me. I swear after I take this test, I WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MATH EVER AGAIN as long as I live.

Yes, I am very bitter. But I'll kick the GRE's ass.

[fortyfeetunder]

35. How to kick the GRE's ass

Practice that silly-ass computer based exam. The CBT is a scam. What happens is the test starts out with a set of 10-12 medium difficulty problems. If you get all those problems correct, then the test adapts to a fairly difficult exam, and you can be assured of a good score.

But if you get most of those problems incorrect, then the CBT adapts to an easier test..However, you can't get a really good score.

I took that practice test every fricking day until the day I took it. And you know what? Some of the same problems show up on the CBT. The math was insanely easy by that point. And I did well as can be expected (think it was 650/800).

I PM'd you on graduate school, don't fret, you CAN get in...I did...

[nini]

6. I loved math.... but I was really good at it

and I had really good teachers..

sorry for your frustration.. do you need some help? :-)

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

8. Thanks

but I think I got it.

I just HATE it when people who write those math review thingies put things in such obscure ways. Why do they write them that way, when they can just say it in English? I swear I have spent half the evening just TRANSLATING this math review into my native language.

Good news? I've gotten 22 out of 26 correct, so I guess that isn't bad.

Anyone who asks me to figure the percentage correct gets a data packet in their USB port.

[Massacure]

9. 84.6 percent. Not too bad.

I assume 80% is a passing score?

[nini]

10. 84.6 %

:D

I hated it too when you didn't know if you were in math or English class.


Hang in there.. sounds like you did just fine.

[PittPoliSci]

11. couldn't agree more!

that's why i'm a political science major. that and history. i'll never need math again! mwhahahaha!!! :toast:

[unblock]

13. never need math in political science??

well, i guess you don't plan on understanding polling data or economics for starters,....

[PittPoliSci]

16. why would i need anything above algebra to understand polling data?

economics i understand is formulated on a lot of calculus, which i can understand fine.

[TreasonousBastard]

15. So that means...

you'll never understand the underlying statistical basics of the data in a political study or survey.

Too bad. Someone else will have to extrapolate the population shifts based on census data from 1830 through 1850. And you won't know if they were right or wrong.

[PittPoliSci]

20. yeah i guess so.

cause that's not something i can look at by comparing data or even examining it myself. gee, you really got me there, way to go.

[AlCzervik]

12. I used to be a CPA

until i told math to kiss my ass. I should have taken what i wanted in school instead of listening to my father.

[unblock]

14. i love math, and it pays really well

wall street lives on math. learn to love math, and it will be your bestest friend.

[lapfog_1]

17. Do you like music?

Seriously, music is the confluence of artistic expression
and math.

Anyway, there is room in the world for both. And people that can
do both.

See, I'm a math type... have been all my life.
But I find that I'm attracted to artists and people who can
express themselves (speaking, music, art, dance).

Anyway... all of college and grad school is simply an exercise
set up by the powers that be to make sure there aren't too many
of the powers that be. Hoops they want you to jump through.
The GRE is just another hoop. So if you want the piece of cheese
at the end of the obstacle course, jump through the hoop. It's
not really all that difficult once you have the attitude that
this is all that it is.

[realisticphish]

18. you're telling ME

i took a year of engineering courses my freshman year (STUPID STUPID STUPID). my hideous performance in math drove my GPA down, and almost cost me a scholarship; i switched majors, thank god, and am now a psych major with a poli sci minor (whatever the hell ill use that for lol)


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Q3JR4]

19. ...

As a third year physics student, I don't know how anyone could have a problem with math.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

22. Well let's start in third grade

when I started falling behind on the times tables. Go to fourth grade when the timed tests started getting too fast for a kid who never learned to stop counting on her fingers.

Then sixth grade, Mrs. Evans. Gave us a test on the first day of school. I made a lot of careless errors, failed it, and she marched me down to the office for a schedule change from Honors math to "Regular" math. They did it and I STILL had Mrs. Evans. She treated that "regular" class VERY differently, let me tell you. Hard as hell with me and didn't seem to care what I didn't understand. I'd come before and after school for tutoring and she wouldn't bother to show up. I'd ask questions in class ("um....I still don't see how you got that answer...") and kids were ready to throw paper wads at me because everyone was ready to move on to another problem. I was holding everyone back.

Then from there it just got worse, since math builds on itself, skills-wise. By ninth grade (Algebra I) I was a total mess. Everything moved too fast, it was like the teacher was speaking another language. I can vividly remember sitting in that class, 14 years old, with tears rolling down my face from frustration.

My dad had a BS, an MS and a PhD in mathematics. So he thought he could help me. A teacher he was not. His level of understanding was so far beyond mine, he couldn't break it down in a simple manner.

I barely passed Algebra I. By Geometry, I had shut down and just did what I could to pass. Same thing in Algebra II. Then my dad came up to school and insisted I be put in TRIGONOMETRY in my senior year. Uh, dad, have you noticed I barely passed Algebra II????

Against the principal's advice, I was placed in Trig. So pissed at him, I intentionally failed it (though that didn't take much effort). Made a 36 for the semester. Sin and cosin my ass.

Went to Texas A&M. Dad wanted me to major in engineering or a science. Um, uh-huh, yeah right. Ok, DAD. I majored in my true love, English.

See the whole time I was struggling with math, I was flourishing in other classes. Passed the AP Literature exam, AP Composition exam, AP Biology, AP World History.

So I majored in English. Was a technical writer for four years, an English teacher for ten.

Can you see how someone could have a problem with math now?

I am a perfectly intelligent person. But I fell behind, then had some horrible experiences in math. And once I fell behind, it was harder and harder each year to catch up.

[TlalocW]

21. Hey! I have a degree in math...

And I'm an out-of-work computer programmer working in a call center! And, oh, yeah, I twist balloons and do magic at restaurants on the side! So you can see what math did for me... Maybe I'm not the best example.

"Don't be a fool; stay in school and take math! Enough of the jibba-jabba!" - Mr. T

TlalocW

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

23. I am sorry for your troubles

but your post made me giggle a lot.

I do hope you find work soon!!!!

[TlalocW]

26. Laugh at me, will you?

I'll make you pay! I'll make you all pay most dearly! I'll make you pay at a rate of 5% per annum. If the principal amount is $500.00, and the loan is for 5 years, what will you end up paying? Show your work.

I hope that makes sense - one of my other degrees is in physics, and that wasn't the kind of word problem I was used to... Okay, say the $500.00 is shot out of a cannon at an angle of 35 degrees to the Earth at a rate of 120 m/s, neglecting air friction and the Earth's rotation, and Richard Feynmann and Albert Einstein are whipped around a pole at the speed of light...

That's okay. I was trying to make people laugh... and I do have work - I'm twisting at a yacht club tomorrow! Whoo hoo! :)

TlalocW

[WilliamPitt]

24. Can I?

:)

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

27. William Pitt

kiss my ass? EVEN BETTER.

Pucker up!

;)

[WilliamPitt]

29. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

*chomp*

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

30. HEY!!

What's the chomping about? Little rough stuff?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

31. Also

I just read your latest article (good job, I LOVED it!!!) and I checked out your books on Amazon.....I am impressed!!! Gonna have to buy them now!

One thing though, did you see the wacko posting reviews about your (and Ritter's) Iraq book on Amazon. My goodness, THAT'S a freeper freak if I ever saw one. He flips out.

Anywho.

[DemBones DemBones]

25. When I was teaching high school

biology and physical sciences, I helped a lot of students with their algebra and chemistry problems. Now, this was rather interesting because my math experiences in elementary and high school were much like yours. In college, I was just determined enough to do it, because chemistry "goes with" biology

After ten or twelve kids had said to me "I understand this now because you explain it much better than my math (chemistry) teacher" (and I'd said, "Well, I'm just explaining it in a different way, I'm sure Mr. ---- explains it well" ), I came to an important realization. Here it is: most people who teach math are good at math and cannot understand why it is hard for anybody. So, when a kid says "I don't understand," they just explain it the same way again or they blow the kid off. They probably assume kids who don't get it aren't trying.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

28. That's EXACTLY

what happened to me in school. They taught it one way, if you didn't get it, they just explained it the SAME WAY again.

The speed of it got me, too. They'd just go about 60 miles per hour and I needed the slow lane at first. Once I GOT a concept, I could go quickly but I had to reallllly absorb it first. And there was no time for that, you know.

[DemBones DemBones]

32. Yep. I thought about adding on math certification and

teaching a section or two of Algebra I but I'd have had to get an entire math major to add on certification. (They're begging for math and science teachers, I'm certified in chemistry, physical sciences, and biology, but they can't just certify me in ALG I. Makes sense?)

It made me mad to see how many kids are still not getting it in math classes! Even those who mostly get it are often missing something, like a girl I knew in college who'd had trig in high school but didn't know how to do percents, because somebody way back hadn't bothered to help her get it.

[JohnKleeb]

34. I can stand the physical sciences

did quite well with em actually, but chemistry was my downfall this year as was Spanish II. Good news is though, I passed my Chemistry Standarlized Test.

[JohnKleeb]

33. well if we had a DU congress

I'd cosponsor that with you but can I add my amendment that banishes chemistry too?

[fortyfeetunder]

36. It all depends on the instructor

My fave professor in college (late 70's) was the organic chemistry prof (may he RIP). His specialty was studying insect pheromones. But he showed us the seamy side of organic chemistry, like how to make Spanish Fly and various drugs, from the same boring ass reactions. We had a good time in class just because we were getting "practical" applications...LOL...I still love chemistry even as an old lady!!!

[JohnKleeb]

39. well I was traumatized simply put

Ask any of my close pals, they know what that teacher did to me.

[fortyfeetunder]

45. a-hole profs

John
There are a-hole teachers who prey on nice kids. You are not alone in this regard, I think these are the ones who destroy the kids with potential beyond repair. The best revenge is your personal success so you can go back to that individual later and tell him/her to "cheney this"....

[JohnKleeb]

48. Well I know

but it sort of was my own fault, I did fall asleep but the truth is I was trying to be polite and I wasnt losing my temper only if she pushed it. BTW I dont like science and math now english and history, oh joy to quote Stimpy the Cat.

[fortyfeetunder]

52. Sleeping in class...

Try online classes....less stress and prof can't tell if you are sleeping..unless you are in a conference call and you don't put your phone on mute...LOL...

[JohnKleeb]

53. I am only in HS though man

so thats a problem.

[fortyfeetunder]

56. maybe not now, but later

or wear mirror frame sunglasses in class...if that's not illegal ;-)

[LSK]

37. 2x + 7 = 27

x = ?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

38. Duh

x=kiss my ass, otherwise known as 10.

Hee hee.

[AlFrankenFan]

40. I dislike it as well

Which my parents say is a shame cause they say I'm good at it cause I'm in Algebra 2/Trig my freshman year. :shrug:

[JohnKleeb]

41. which is what I am taking as a senior

and people wonder why I call myself dumb, but hey I can brag about one thing, I got a 60 out of 60 on one of the country's most hardest standarlized tests, mmm history nerd.

[roguevalley]

42. far side had a vision of hell. It was a big library with nothing but math

story problem books. I miss the far side.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Math WILL bite you.

Math rules the universe.

Feel free to create and live in your own reality. It won't last.

[Eurobabe]

44. I only learned to value math after studying philosophy

but it can still kiss my ass too.

[HEyHEY]

46. This is the best post I've ever seen

Fight the fractions...I'm behind you!

[JohnKleeb]

47. a+b= fuck this shit!

there's an equation for ya.

[HEyHEY]

49. In a Jersey Accent that sounds even funnier

[JohnKleeb]

50. well I am a southerner

So I probably say it what sounds like hick talk to you though the pseudo canadian/Irishlite/Hiliary Clinton intern tells me I dont sound hickish,
he's still a fool for saying pop though :).

[mykpart]

51. I dropped out of college and never returned

because I was going to have to take one more math course to graduate. My algegra teacher said that "Mathematics is the language of logic." I should have slugged him!

[Dukkha]

54. of all the subjects in education

Math is the MOST important
To understand math is to understand the universe.

I was no Steven Hawking though. I excelled all the way to Algebra II, then I failed.

[alarcojon]

55. Mathematics

When I was going through school, it wasn't "cool" to be smart. Since math is widely considered one of the most difficult subjects (if not THE most difficult), it was especially "uncool" to be good at math. Math also suffers from all the stereotypes of geekdom - thick glasses, greasy hair, the whole nine yards. On top of all that, many math teachers/professors (full disclosure - I am the latter) do a lousy job, whence math has gotten associated with multiple choice, timed tests, and with the "there is only one way to get the right answer" myth.

There is, unfortunately, some truth to the post above which says that people who are good at math tend to assume that everyone else finds it as easy as they do, and thus can't explain it well. I would like to think I do not make this mistake, but that's for my students to judge.

Math is, at bottom, just problem solving. Believe it or not, we seek to not only solve a problem, but also to solve it in the most elegant way possible. Professional mathematicians often use terms like "beauty", "symmetry", and "elegance" when referring to mathematical results.

All that aside, math is an extremely frustrating subject, regardless of your level of ability. Maybe that's why it is so rewarding (for me, at least) once you finally figure out how to solve a challenging problem. In the meantime, it can sure seem to bite the big one. B-)

[Bake]

57. Math is just so LOGICAL!

Plus, you've either got the right answer or you don't! No shades of gray. I suppose it does get a little weird, though, like when you get into imaginary numbers. I'm not a math whiz, but even as a lawyer, I find that I use algebra/geometry almost every day.

Plus, as a musician, as noted somewhere up in the thread, music is math brought to life.

Learn to love the math!

Bake

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

58. I fart at you math-haters' general direction. (nt)