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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:55 AM
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Is anyone old enough to remember cigarette advertising onTV ?
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 02:00 AM by JohnnyRingo
Of course they claimed not to attract young people, but I remember "Granny" Clampet coming out of the mansion door at the end of the show and proclaiming: "Winston tastes good, like a cigarette had oughta".

When I was in grade school we had a "Go to the head of the class" game. One of the questions was "What does LSMFT stand for?"

I remember the answer to this day: (Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobaccos)


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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:01 AM
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1. Yep
I do remember them. However, it's been so long that I'm confusing specific ones with the print ads in magazines...

L-
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:03 AM
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2. I remember cigarette commercials.
The Marlboro Man, the Lark commercials (show us your Lark pack!), the brand whose slogan was "I'd rather fight than switch" with all the smoking people with one black eye (I can't remember the brand though-maybe Tareyton?), the Benson and Hedges commercials (I think it went something like-"A silly millimeter longer, 101), the Kool penguins, the dancing cigarette packs on Milton Berle, Edie Adams (Ernie Kovacs' wife) as the White Owl cigar girl, wow.

(And maybe a little off-topic but I think that Ernie Kovacs was a brilliant comedian. His show was great.)
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skippythwndrdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:08 AM
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5. It was Tarreyton - rather fight than switch
"Winston tastes good like cigarette should." I think every English teacher in the country was up in arms about that little grammatical goof.

L.S.M.F.T. - Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco! (Or for the more juvenile, it was: Loose Straps Mean Floppy Tits!)

Ah! The good old days of advertising.

Now I'm thinking about Curt Gowdy and the Timex ads.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:01 PM
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46. Close - That Was John Cameron Swayzee in the Timex Ads
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:45 AM
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56. Edie Adams was the spokesperson for Murial cigars.
Huge Ernie Kovacs fan here. Murial and Dutch Masters cigars were Ernie's sponsors for years.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:05 AM
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3. I have VERY vague memories of the Marlboro man
When did they stop doing those ads? Was it 1972? That would have made me 3 years old. I remember Sesame Street, Loony Toons and Romper Room from back then too. :)
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:05 PM
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49. It Was 1970 When They Stopped the Cigarette TV Ads
On New Years Day. As a result, virtually every commercial on December 31, 1969 was for one cigarette or another.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:07 AM
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4. Taste Me, Taste Me....
Come on and taste me ....:smoke:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:44 AM
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26. "You can't say 'Eat Me' on Television..."
"...But you have all these male singers prancing around going 'Taste me, taste me, c'mon and taste me!'..."

George Carlin
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:02 PM
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47. Because of Those Commercials, I Smoked Dorals For Several Years
"Taste me, taste me, come on and taste me -
Take a puff and let me do my stuff..."
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:10 AM
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6. I vaguely remember Marlboro Man commercials
when I was a little kid. I think they banned them shortly afterwards.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:14 AM
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7. footnote on the Flintstones:
The Flintstones was a pioneer in the field of 'product placement'. Not only did Fred and Barney often smoke in the episodes (subsequently edited out of the syndicated versions), but Pebbles was introduced specifically so there would be a character who would be seen enjoying (Welsh's) grape juice.

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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:18 AM
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9. I forgot about the Welch's ads...
That WAS the beginning of Pebbles.
I wonder why Bam Bam was written in? (afraid to ask)
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:21 AM
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11. Hey, what happened to the Laibach kitten?
Tanz mit Laibach!
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:24 AM
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12. Do you want him ?
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 02:28 AM by JohnnyRingo
I can retire him

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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:28 AM
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15. Jack Benny was integrating Lucky Strike ads into his radio shows...
decades earlier.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:23 AM
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19. Do the smoking scenes exist on the 'unedited' DVD set?
:shrug:

Wow, product placement in 1963... sick.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:08 AM
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31. I don't think they do...
I rented disc 4 the other day, which has the 'bonus material'. There were Flintstone ads for 1-a-Day vitamins and stuff, but no Winstons.

Me thinkst I smell a revisionist...
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 08:11 AM
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24. Flintsones sold winstons, welch's, and motorolas too!

<snip>
If I told you the original network run of The Flintstones (1960-1966) was sponsored by a cigarette maker and that you could watch the main characters smoking Winstons at the end of the show, you probably wouldn't believe me. This animated series was a prime-time show, considered adult fare in 1960, so I guess nobody thought any better of it.

With a large audience of youngsters tuning in at 8:30pm, was this proof that the tobacco companies were targeting younger potential smokers decades before Joe Camel? The Flintstones could also be seen selling beer in commercials, for what that's worth.

Steve Byrd tells us, "By the time Pebbles was born in 1963, the Flintstones were no longer pitching Winstons... they were selling Motorolas and Welch's grape juice. No way would Winstons have sponsored a cartoon sitcom with a baby character." Especially since, in 1964, the U.S. Surgeon General declared that smoking was harmful to one's health.

more here http://www.tvparty.com/vaultcomcig.html
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:15 AM
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8. I just barely do, so you'll have to remind me
The one that sticks in my mind is "I'd rather fight than switch," LOL! Someone appeared with a not-at-all-genuine looking black eye. I looked this up, and it was Benson & Hedges. I also recall ads featuring mountains and ice, probably menthols, like Salem and Alpine, which my mother smoked, and guys on horses, probably Marlboro or Camel.:shrug:

I remember "Go to the Head of the Class." There were cigarette questions? I never ran across them. My grandmother had a version that we used to play, and, then, we got one, as kids. I did pretty well, until they came to the category of military insignia. I had no idea what designated a captain from a lieutenant to a general. Was the WWII generation expected to know this? My grandmother didn't.:shrug:
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:20 AM
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10. See...I bet you know now
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 02:21 AM by JohnnyRingo
And I never forgot that "Lucky" answer. (1962-3 I think)

Those bastards
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:51 AM
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16. I just looked it up, again, and it was Tareyton
What that is, I have no idea; I just remember the ad. I thought that Benson & Hedges sounded too contemporary. And, you're right, I will probably always remember this from now on. Maybe I'll get "lucky" and this will be a question someday on Trivial Pursuit.:-)
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:32 AM
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13. I just thought of another one-
"Parliament gives you extra margin". And I loved the "Go to the Head of the Class" game. I see that it is available again from The Vermont Country Store catalogue. I want to get it. And what about the Virginia Slims slogan, "You've come a long way, baby"?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:54 AM
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17. OMG, I remember that one! What's wrong with me?!
"Parliament gives you - extra margin! A neat, clean quarter-inch away!" How insane were people to believe this, anyway? And I smoke.:shrug:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:37 AM
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14. CALL . . . FOR . . . PHILIP . . . MO . . . RIIIIS! . . .
yeah . . . I remember . . .
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marigold20 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:02 AM
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18. I remember the Old Gold dancing girls in cigarette boxes.
and "It's what's up front that counts!"

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:24 AM
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20. It's Lucky Strikes Mean Fine Tobacco.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:36 AM
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21. Question: What cigarettte was a silly millimeter longer (101)?
Their jingle was set to the song "Labamba".

I simply can't remember.

Remember:

The disadvantages of the Benson and Hedges 100mm cigarette?

Kent satisfies best.

"You come a long way baby" (Virginia Slims).



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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 08:04 AM
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22. Benson and Hedges, of course! People getting their cigs bent by
running into closing elevator doors (you could smoke in elevators, remember!) and whatnot. A silly millimeter longer, 101.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 08:06 AM
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23. I loved "Winchester's something else, Winchester---a whole new smoke
coming straight your way, it's something else,Winchester."

To the tune of "you've got to change your evil ways, baby."

I thought the winchester guy was COOL! Didn't make me want to smoke, but I wanted to impress the gals like he did (and like the old spice sailor did. Girl in every port. Was that the dream of every young lesbian, or just me?)

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:46 AM
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27. The guy getting the windscreen with the bump-out on his VW....
So there was room for the long ciggy.
Oh, get reat, VW windscreens were close to your face, but not THAT close. Unless you were one of those guys who hunched over the wheel think that would make your 1600 go faster....
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:09 PM
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50. That Was Chesterfields
All the other brands had come out with 100-millimeter cigarettes. So Chesterfield 101s were "a silly millimeter longer".
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Mrs_Beastman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:23 AM
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25. I remember
asking my mom why magazine suddenly had alot of cigarette ads in magazines...and she told me because they don't advertise on t.v. anymore
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:49 AM
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28. When I was a naughty boy (weren't we all?)....
we translated it as: "Let's screw; my finger's tired." :evilgrin:
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:59 AM
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29. Smoking made you manly!
"The best smoke you can smoke, every inch a MAN's smoke, Camel is a MAN's cigarette."

"Where there's a MAN, there's a Marlboro. You get a lot to like with a Marlboro: Filter, flavor, flip-top box."

"To a sailor, it's a sail, sail, sail; to a whaler, it's a whale, whale, whale; to a sheriff, it's which way they went, to a smoker, it's a Kent! Happiness is, the taste of Kent...etc."
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:01 AM
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30. cigarette advertising onTV...has always been banned.....Winston Smith
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Unperson 309 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:36 PM
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32. I Remember Them... AND The Parodies!


LSMFT = Loose Straps Make Fat Tits!

Or the jingle parody

Winston tastes bad, like the last one I had!
No filter, no flavor, just cotton pickin' paper!

309

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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:52 PM
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33. The last cigarette ads on TV aired on December 31, 1971.
That's because they became illegal on January 1, 1972. I was five years old at the time and have only vague recollections of TV tobacco ads.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:00 PM
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34. This website has tons of cigarette ads, both print and TV...
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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:06 PM
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I remember "Go to the head of the class" game
Damn, I forgot that they use to use Cartoons for cigarette commercials.

The Cartoons would get to the kids early in their life and some of the kids are dead today from smoking cigarettes.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 03:47 AM
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55. My grandmother had the "Go to the Head of the Class" game
I did well except when they asked you to identify military stripes, etc. I was just clueless, as were all my cousins. Maybe this was a WWII thing, who knows?! I'd like to see a contemporary version.:shrug:
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:06 PM
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35. I remember them. Virginia Slims was too much:
You've come a long way baby
to get where you've got to today.
you've got your own cigarette now baby
you've come a long, long way.

I won't even bother going into how sickening that little jingle was; I think it's pretty obvious. But I will say that addressing a woman as "baby" does not equate with her coming a long, long way. :-)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:18 PM
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36. I remember Virginia Slims working the "Gloria Steinem swinging feminist"..
angle in their commercials

Marlboro cowboy fetishism

Benson & Hedges 100s slapstick (the cigarette's length always good for "hilarity")

Doral "Taste me! Taste me! C'mon and taste me!"

Winchester- a cigarillo brand whose "Winchester Man" became a brief pop culture phenom
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:19 PM
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37. Here is a link to some clips
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:58 PM
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45. There's a truckload of deja vu at that site...Thanx
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:40 PM
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38. Kent with the micronite filter
refines away harsh flavor
refines away hot taste
it makes the taste of a cigarette mild
like a balmy day in the month of May

(the shit you remember)

:eyes:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 08:02 PM
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44. More like an asbestos mine
Between 1952 and 1956 (when a new, non-flammable synthetic filter was substituted), Lorillard Tobacco put crocidolite asbestos--the most carcinogenic kind--in Kent filters.

http://www.braytonlaw.com/news/verdicts/2000traverso.htm
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:15 AM
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53. Yeah, the first line to that jingle is:
"You'll feel better about smoking with the taste of Kent,"
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 05:16 PM
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39. Remember Cigarettes for romance?
"Just another L & M moment" was the jingle and it was some couple necking and smoking...

I always wondered about it--if they did that commercial today would it be some couple laying in bed smoking post-romp?


Laura
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 05:48 PM
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40. Yes, they weren't banned till the 1970s
I was already at least twenty years old.

And every one of those stupid ads is stuck in my brain forever, even though I've never smoked.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 05:52 PM
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41. And to really target youthful audiences...
bubblegum cigarettes!

My parents, who were very anti-smoking, would never buy them for us, so we had to bum them off other kids. :-)
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:04 PM
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48. Hahahahaa..."Bummin' candy smokes" , How surreal
The ads were meant to be memorable....I realize now just how effective the advertising was.
I too have vivid memories of the cig ads.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 06:02 PM
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42. And back then, characters on TV shows were always smoking.
Same with movies. And they'd usually have cocktails in the evening after dad came home from work. You'd never see anything like that today. I wonder if they edit those things out when the shows are on Nick at Nite?
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 06:20 PM
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43. Here's a link to some old cigarette commericals on .ram
http://www.tvparty.com/vaultcomcig.html

It's got the Flintstones' Winston ad.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:50 PM
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51. "Take A Puff ..... It's Springtime"
"Salem Refreshes Your Taste"
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 11:20 PM
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52. I'm old enough to have forgotten most of it.
But the estimable Lileks.com had this image that refreshed some very old memories (also refreshed much more pleasantly in one of my favorite movies, My Favorite Year).

www.lileks.com/institute/jetsam/2/

America is - without a doubt - the most bizarrre culture this planet has ever produced, and here's the proof.
....

Even more peculiar: the man is placing a vaginal symbol over the phallic smokes, a symbol of kingship held by a man over the female representation of tubular satisfaction -

(doesnotcompute doesnotcompute error error sterlize sterrrilize)

Let this be a warning: when the culture represses sexuality, it comes flooding out the seams in the most unnatural manifestations.

Although I have to say: this cigarette pack has got it goin' on.



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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:51 AM
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57. Beware Lileks.
I used to be a huge fan, read him every day, till he was terribly cruel to Paul Wellstone. Now he is nothing but a RW shill and not worth your time. Too bad, too, because I really enjoyed his pop culture bits. But no more.
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:18 AM
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54. In the 50s, cigarette companies sent free cartons
to our armed forces overseas. At the end of the TV show sponsored, the characters would come on and read the list of bases where cartons of Camels, Luckies, whatever were sent this week. Kinda reminds me of the dope dealers who give freebies to school kids to get them hooked.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:54 AM
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58. Do they still make candy cigarettes?
They even had one kind that if you blew through it, it ejected a little cloud of powdered sugar, to look like smoke.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:55 AM
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59. I have memories of the Virginia Slims ads...and how they tied feminism...
to cigarette smoking. "You've come a long way, baby...to get where you got to today". God, how can I remember those ad campaigns from 30 + years ago? :-)
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