"Your so vain" Who was Carly Simon's song about?

[VoteDemocratic2004]

I think that it was about Mick Jagger anyone else think that's who it was about.

"He walked in to a party like he was walking onto a yacht"

[unfrigginreal]

1. Me, of course.

[nolabels]

17. Hehe

[swag]

2. Warren Beatty was what I always heard

[JohnKleeb]

3. I first saw that movie Dick with Kirsten Duntz when I was like 9

and I thought it was about Nixon heh, because they played that song as he resigned and headed home to California.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

6. She should bring another version out

Bush has the attitude that he is the best thing that has happened since the wheel was invented.

[JohnKleeb]

8. hah

is she political?

[VoteDemocratic2004]

13. I believe she is a friend of Kerry's

Why don't we make some lyrics up to her song and send them via email to her.

"He walked in to a GOP Party like he was walking onto a yacht"

[JohnKleeb]

22. hah

Kerry has a lot of friends in the music community, inguaral should be a lot of fun.

[ronnykmarshall]

53. She was very close to Jackie Onassis too.

She wrote this beautiful song "Touched By The Sun" for Jackie.

[KellyW]

25. Very

She was a major figure at the recent convention on stage and meeting with delegations. Remember at the 1984 DNC she did a concert for Gary Hart and spoke to my states delegation.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

28. Why don't we all write her a new song

Bush would be shoe in for her song because he struts like he is the best thing that has every been born.

[Don Claybrook]

4. Mick Jagger sang backup on the song

My understanding is that the song was about Beatty.

[BAPhill]

5. I don't think it was about Mick....

as he sings back up on it...unless he has a good
sense of humor.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

9. The mirror line is what made me think that it was about MJ

You had one eye in the mirror as you watched yourself go by. Mick Jagger is stuck on himself but i believe Warren Beatty was also the same way.

[wicket]

7. I've heard either Warren Beatty or James Taylor

[VoteDemocratic2004]

11. She could have been pissed at James Taylor

That would make sense.

[Cybergata]

24. It wasn't about James Taylor

...but I was always suspected it was about Warren Beatty. During the time he dated Charley, she was one among a long string of beautiful women Beatty had a fling with. :hippie:

[VoteDemocratic2004]

26. Did it come out after the movie Shampoo?

:shrug:

[Cybergata]

30. Shampoo and You're So Vane

both came out in 1975. Did you know that Shampoo was partially written by Warren Beatty? He was making fun of himself once he realized what a big slut he was. Hey, at the time who would mind being a slut with him!;-) :hippie:

[VoteDemocratic2004]

31. He was gorgeous in Shampoo

Goldie Hawn was also in it right?

[Cybergata]

36. It has been so long since I've seen this movie....

but yes Goldie Was in it as well as Julie Christie and Lee Grant. All three were girl friends of Beatty's at one time or another. :hippie:

[VoteDemocratic2004]

41. Goldie is one of my favorite actresses

Did you ever see "There's a girl in my Soup"?

I believe Julie Christie was in a movie that I enjoyed as a teenager also. I can't remember the name of that movie and it's going to drive me nuts until I think of it.

:hippie: :smoke:

[Cybergata]

45. Well, at least....

Warren Beatty had good taste....that is until his big silly old man blunder of letting Madonna get a hold of his dick.
I'm sure I've seen There's a girl in my Soup....I know I did.....I just can't remember much about it. I'm a really movie buff, so I've seen a whole lot of movies in my 51 years. I love movies! :hippie:

[bloodyjack]

50. wow...he slept with Julie Christie too? n/t

:evilfrown:

[Cybergata]

51. If there was a beautiful...

woman in Hollywood in the 60s, Warren went after her. Gee, I feel like I'm back on alt.showbiz.gossip! ;-) My mother was the person who told me all sorts of stuff about Warren. I think she must have had to hots for him. It didn't cross my mind when I was a teen, but now that I am at the age she was at the time, I can easily see it now. :hippie:

[Cybergata]

57. More stuff on Warren

Girlfriends I can remember are Michelle Phillips (Mamas and the Papas), Lesley Ann Warren (whose husband mentioned Warren in his divorce papers when he divorced Lesley Ann), Stephanie Seymour, Leslie Caron, Diane Keaton, Faye Dunaway, Natalie Wood and Joan Collins.

Quotes about Warren:
former fiancée Joan Collins said that he was "the only man to get to the mirror faster than me"

"Whenever I go on a talk show I am invariably asked about Warren Beatty's sex life," Rex Reed once remarked. "I have a stock answer: 'He should be in a jar at the Harvard Medical School!'"


I just remembered that Hugh Hefner was one of the possible candidates for You're So Vain.

[smirkymonkey]

58. I think it was Julie Christie

but Goldie may have been in it as well.

[ronnykmarshall]

55. Buzzzz!

"You're So Vain" came out in 1973 - 74.

[joeybee12]

10. She auctioned off the answer for charity a few years back. And the answer

is.........

.....the winner of the auction was sworn to secrecy! So, there's one person who does know.

I think it's Warren Beatty. Can't think of anyone else in the world who is vainer.

[Momof1]

40. At that time someone said the person had an "E" in his name

Which doesn't really tell you anything. Either the person who won the auction said that, or Carly herself said that.

[saracat]

12. She says,lol, that whoever it is has an A and an E in their name!

Which could be Mick Jagger James Taylor ,Warren Beatty or even Cat Stevens ,who she also dated. Giggle. I think it might be Taylor.It is probably someone she didn't care for at the time and it is well known that Taylor had ego problems(as well as a heroin addiction!) and used to put Carley down.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

14. That just about covers everyone

James could have been playing around on her also.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

15. This is nothing personal

"Your" is possessive, as in "your books."

"You're" is the contraction for "you are," which is what the title means. You are so vain.

Thanks, everyone may now resume their fun. Sorry if I stepped on any toes!

[VoteDemocratic2004]

18. All I have to say to you is

"Get a life honey" if that's all you have to do is correct everyone elses spelling and grammer.

Also, I am not an English major and I have never pretended to being one either.

Something is wrong with someone that gets off on finding fault in others.

This is a message board not an English test.

Most of us see mistakes that others make but we bite our tongue and we don't say anything.

I am not one to point out others mistakes or try to find them either.

:hi:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

32. Geez

I said I didn't mean it personally and then I apologized in advance.

Duly noted that you are a bit sensitive about it.

Edited to add I never got off on anything, I just thought I'd be a bit helpful. Pretty clear you didn't want it. Whatever. But don't assume there's something wrong with me, I tried to be as nice about it as I possibly could.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

33. Next time

Find fault in yourself and try to correct it. I would start by not correcting others if i were you because you will be much happier that way.

When you don't look for fault in others you can be a happier person in your life.

:hi:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

35. You are obviously

EXTREMELY sensitive about this, as evidenced by your very sarcastic, bitter post below.

You might want to look into just taking words for what they are and taking them at face value.

The reason I say that is there was no judgement involved in my post. None at all. I am not stupid enough to see misuse of a word as a character flaw. Anyone who does is just wrong.

I simply saw it as misuse of a word. And a very common misusage, too. Again, no judgement involved, thus my very careful couching of the original message to you.

You completely assume I was LOOKING for fault in you. ("When you don't look for fault in others you can be a happier person in your life.") Thank you but I am a very happy person. You think my pointing out your very simple, very common misusage of a word and telling you how to do it correctly is some kind of slam on you PERSONALLY, some kind of value judgement on you and it was nothing of the kind. But again, this seems to be a very sensitive area for you.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

37. I'm an old bag

Let's call it a truce right now and stop bickering.

People don't like to be corrected and I am speaking for others as well as myself.

Try to find something else to say and hold your tongue when it comes to telling someone that they have made grammatical errors.

Correcting someone is taking away from a message board and not adding to it.

Correcting someone on an issue that they are wrong about is one thing but finding fault with grammatical errors is another thing.

I didn't assume anything about you it was your message and it was blunt and rude.

:beer:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

42. Blunt and rude?

You repeated the same thing you've been saying, then asked to call a truce, then called my post "blunt and rude." Well, I guess now I get to call your posts passive-aggressive.

My original post even said "This is nothing personal." Then I simply explained the use of your and apologized in advance for any offense. How is that hard to understand??? If you didn't like it, all you had to say was "thanks, but no thanks" or have a sense of humor about it or something. I've been corrected on my spelling on internet boards, too, and I just laugh and say "thanks" or "guess I wasn't paying attention", especially when it's obvious they are trying to be nice about it.

Instead, you accused me of "getting off" on finding fault in others, which is not true and was not the basis of my post at all.

I could accept your "rude" assessment if I had said something like: "Hey sweetie, didn't you pass sixth grade English?"

Might I respectfully submit that this is a very sensitive issue for you (as I have said before) and that it is coloring your response? That is understandable, especially if English was never your thing. You are in good company, if that is the case.

It has been duly noted by me that VoteDemocratic2004 responds in a rather hostile manner to even the nicest suggestions concerning his or her spelling/grammar.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

38. I am very curious

What do you get out of correcting someone Else's grammatical errors?

Is it to show that you are better then they are at speaking and writing or that you know more then the person that posted the message.

What is it that you get out of pointing out errors?

Tons of people make errors but when we write especially on a political website we have so much passion in us that we don't have time to stop and see if we have dotted all of our i's and crossed all of our T's.

Can you please tell me what it is that you get out of correcting someone Else's grammatical errors? Why don't you send them a PM instead of posting it for everyone to see? Can you answer that question?

:shrug:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

43. What do I get out of it?

Nothing. Again, you are assuming an awful lot with regard to motivation, meaning, etc.

Your/you're is a common mistake. But it is not just a spelling mistake, it affects the meaning. On the internet, we don't have our voices, only our written words. So when the mistake threatens to obscure meaning, it's pretty important to know how to fix that. In your case, your/you're isn't going to kill an argument, but I know many people look at that mistake and blow off the person's MESSAGE because of their error. I do not. But others do; it's quite common.

So I thought I'd simply offer that up, with a warning that it was not to be taken personally AND an apology in advance for any offense it might cause.

If you read it without the emotional feelings it seems to stir up for you, you'll see that it was not meant with any harm at all. Just take it at face value.

If anything, I was hoping you'd get something out of it, but I doubt you have, other than hurt feelings. That's too bad, as that obscures what I was trying to say.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

44. What's the reason that you don't want to PM them instead?

:shrug:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

46. I just don't usually PM people.....

and for the record, I don't usually even say anything about it at ALL. In this case, though, it was in the title line, so it was much more obvious. If it had been in the text of your post, I most likely would not have said anything.

Just move on, ok? Don't let a post with no harm behind it make you THIS crazy!

:smoke:

[VoteDemocratic2004]

48. Truce

I am just trying to figure it out psychologically and find out why you are correcting people and what do you get out of it on your end.


:shrug:

[ronnykmarshall]

56. In the words of Cheech and Chong's

Sister Mary Elephant:

Class. Classs! Cllluuuuuaaaaassssss! Cla -

SHUUUUUDDDDDDDDDD UUUUUPPPPPPPPPPP!!

Thank you.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

59. Oh Hell

This place is going to go "Up in Smoke".

[silverlib]

61. My mother told me

that if I had to offer an apology up front for something that I was going to say - don't say it.

I'm with you on this one - we haven't all gone up in smoke.

Oh yea - I vote for WB.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

62. I make so many mistakes that I don't care anymore

Was it "Big Bamboo" or "Up in Smoke"?

I'm with you because I am not offering an apology for a mistake that I made with my English skills I have been out of High School for 25 years now and some of the stuff I don't use and I can't remember.

[silverlib]

65. One of the nice things

about being over fifty (like me and you) is that we can remember the important things and forget about the inconsequential bull.

Peace

[VoteDemocratic2004]

66. I just hit 40

I feel like I am over 50 at times.

Peace be with you also!

[SoDesuKa]

16. Nobody

Carly Simon says she gets asked this question all the time. The answer is that it's about nobody in particular.

Take it or leave it. That's what she says.

[wtmusic]

19. Mick Jagger wouldn't give a shit about a 'total eclipse of the sun'

couldn't be him

[flamingyouth]

20. I've always thought it was about Warren Beatty

I remember that being the big story when the song came out. :hi:

[VoteDemocratic2004]

23. How many dates did Warren have in his heyday?

Do you remember the movie Shampoo?

[flamingyouth]

27. LOL - I sure do

He was quite the randy guy, as I recall. God, I haven't seen that movie in years. I'm sure it's hilariously out of date now! :D

[VoteDemocratic2004]

29. I loved that movie and Warren was very good looking in it

Today they would stereotype the movie because you know what they say about hairdressers.

:hi:

[VoteDemocratic2004]

21. Excussssssssssseeee Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee Everyone!

I jUsT sCreWed uP on mY eNgliSh and sOmeOnE haD's tO pOinT's tHiS Out's.

GoSh dAnGiT's Izzzz sO's dAmN's StUpId fOr mAkInG a GrAmMeR MiStaKe bUt Izzz Not An eNglISH mAjoR aT's aLl & I nEvEr pRetEndeD tO bEinG oNe.

Oppppps I Used a & sIgN inSteadsssss of tYpiNg And GOD FORBID I made a mistake. Excuzzze mE whIle I gooes backkks to playyinng my bannnjooo onn my porccccchhh :toast:

[tlcandie]

34. Thought it was James Taylor?

:shrug: Thought they had been together and split when this released?

[VoteDemocratic2004]

39. I could see that happening

When you are pissed off at someone and you are creative a song just might come out.

[Braden]

47. ultimately the song was about him

He wasn't vain he was being stalked, by a songwriter.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

49. Ohhh I like that idea

:evilgrin:

[ronnykmarshall]

52. Just saw her on CNN

Here's two hint's, Carly said the name has an "e" and an "a".

[VoteDemocratic2004]

54. I have an e and an a in my name

Shit, maybe it's about me LOL.

[jukes]

60. *you're* so vain

surp'd the teachernazis ain't had you yet.


& not to appear rude, but WHO GIVES A FUCK?



this thread has out-ghosted elvis!

[Bluebear]

63. Here we go again!

::snicker::

[Susang]

64. Quick, everybody duck!

Incoming! :nuke:

[name not needed]

67. Me

I wasn't born until 1988, but even back in the 70's I had that effect on people. Did you also know that "Can't stop lovin' you" by Van Halen is also about me?


:)

[pagerbear]

68. I'll bet you think it's about you!

Don't you?! Don't you?!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

69. Why do people keep asking this? It's well known to be Warren Beatty.

I don't know what the great mystery is.