Help me make a mix of bizarre trapezoid music - abstract Jazz songs

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

please post suggestions of your favorite abstract jazz songs!

I'll start:

Cosmic Chaos by Sun Ra from Heliocentric Worlds Vol.2

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

1. Where are the jazz people?

:shrug:

[regularguy]

2. I have some Anthony Braxton albums where

the names of the songs are designated by weird geometric diagrams. I'll admit the music goes over my head, but they're cool albums to have...

This one in particular seems like a real toe tapper:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

3. BReading a Braxton discography is like reading a chemistry textbook

:)

[parasim]

5. For Trio?

Yeah, that's one of my favorites, too... I think I wore the grooves out on that one, though...

[Squeech]

9. This is the Four Orchestras record, innit?

My sister played first chair viola in the third orchestra.

The recording was done at Oberlin, which my sister was attending at the time, because it was the only place Braxton could find enough competent musicians within the budget Arista allowed him. (Which was still well over what any other major label was offering its jazzers, let us note.)

My sister said that there were only a couple days of rehearsal of what was *really* difficult music, that a substantial chunk of the score just got left out due to lack of time, and to make matters more interesting, there was a lot of dope being smoked. She once said she doubted that there was any measure in the whole piece that was played properly.

I've listened to it, and I can't begin to understand what it's about. My parents have listened to it too, and they don't get it either, but they're proud of my sister's role in it. (A friend of mine once told Mr. Braxton that my folks had played it all the way through, and he answered that that was more than his folks had done.)

I do like, and sometimes can even whistle tunes from, Creative Orchestra Music. (At least the fake Ellington number and the march.)

[regularguy]

10. Honestly, I haven't dusted my Braxton Albums off for a while

(except for 'seven standards')..I just googled for one on those Braxton type diagrams. That's a pretty neat story about your sister.

Listening to what he does with standards I can tell that the guy is just a fountain of creativity...but like I said, I 'm perplexed by most of his original stuff.

[parasim]

4. Speaking of A. Braxton...

Side one, track 2
(the title is a diagram, i couldn't find an image of it.

to see it, go here:
http://sudo.3.pro.tok2.com/Quest/cards/A/AnthonyBraxton/CreativeOrchestraMusic1976_x.html

from Creative orchestra Music 1976

[tigereye]

6. I was gonna say Braxton

but how about Carla Bley? She and her ensemble(s) can abstract with the best of them. Geri Allen has some academic-type piano and ensemble pieces, as well.

If you really want a great go-round, maybe more linear, though, no one moves from genre to genre at lightning speed like Dorothy Donegan did.
Her moves are so wild and fast, they will make you laugh.

And then there's the Art Ensemble of Chicago!!Need I say more?

Can't think of anymore at this moment, Chavez. But if I do, I will put them out for you.

[chiburb]

7. Don't know what you mean by "abstract", but try this..

"Red, Black and Green" by Pharoah Sanders:

http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/product.aspx?pid=9551

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

8. I love that song! Good call

By abstract I mean not fitting into the European format of song structure.

11. Conference of the Birds

Note the players

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

12. Wow - that sounds TIGHT!

I'll have to check that out

thanks!

:thumbsup: