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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 01:20 AM
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anyone else notice this about wrongfull convictions
that its usually the police tactics of lieing, throwing out evidence, and basically tortureing people with sleep depravation until they confess, and all the convictions being overturrned (most times with DNA evidence help) are the cops fault yet no one is punished for it and thier tactics dont change
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 01:24 AM
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1. The really incredulous thing

is that many prosecutors, even when faced with DNA evidence,
continue to insist that they convicted the right person!
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 01:49 AM
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2. Confessions should be carefully examined as evidence.
I watched a documentary about a technique taught to police,they get so many false confessions,if the technique(I can't remember what it's called) is used the confession should be tossed.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 02:04 AM
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3. There are also a fair number of cases that were all political
When a DA or judge is up for re-election, it's not unusual for them to like to get a death penalty "win" while they're campaigning, so they can prove they're "tough on crime". They are happy to convict anyone they can regardless of the validity of the charges, or how appropriate the death penalty is in the case.

If you want to read about a really horrifying case, read about Kenny Richey in Ohio:

http://www.kennyrichey.org/
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 02:18 AM
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5. thats sick man, that judge should be executed
cause thier saying "well, we know he's innocent, but were gonna kill him anyway"
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 01:40 PM
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6. And they are unlikely to allow an appeal either
I've never been really big on the death penalty, but I was never TOTALLY opposed to it until I found out more about how the whole prosecution system works. There is no statute of limitations on murder, so the state can take as long as necessary to build their case. However, once they've built their case, the defendant only has a certain amount of time to build their defense. Even asking for continuances out the wazoo, it's still up to the judge as to when the case will go to trial, and in some cases, a speedy trial isn't necessarily a good thing.

When it comes to the appeal process, which death penalty advocates point out as the way we can make SURE that an innocent person isn't executed, there are time limitations on those as well, and a judge doesn't have to look at new evidence, no matter how compelling, unless they want to. Just like it is difficult to get doctor's to testify against other doctor's in malpractice cases, it's difficult to get judges to overrule each other, even though that's what the appealate process is supposed to be about. People get up in arms about someone being freed "on a technicality". Well, now that I know the process better, I can see that the reason that the defense attorneys pursue the "technical" errors in their clients trial is because that's their best chance at a successful appeal, not by bringing new evidence for review.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 02:09 AM
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Yup.
The only thing it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. The fact that these people goes unpunished speaks volumes about law enforcement in this society.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 02:09 AM
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4. dupe
Edited on Sat Aug-14-04 02:09 AM by DrWeird
nt
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 01:46 PM
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7. What's worse is how they prep "witnesses"
Someone who didn't even SEE the face of the criminal can be cohorted into testifying against someone because the cops convinced them that a certain person was the criminal.

With enough pressure and asking to recall the story, their brain just fills in the image of the suspect in question and witnesses don't even realize they're lying anymore.
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 02:23 PM
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8. There have no reopened investigations into overturned convictions either
Last moof checked there were several hundred innocent people released after being convicted of murder. To date not a single one of the crimes that these innocent people were convicted for have been reopened and an attempt made to find the people that really committed the crimes.

So basically the suthorities will do anything to convict anyne once, after that they don't care anymore.

This always brings to mind the JFK murder, if the person/s that pulled the trigger came forward today with concrete poof of what happened,
no authorities are likely to be interested because the case is closed and over now and no one made any mistakes.

Well that and the fact that the BFEE was most likely involved.

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