Anyone watching Bible Codes on the History channel?

[notadmblnd]

What tod you think about it. Is this propaganda or do yu thibnk there is any credibility in it? Do you this that this is what these creeps are going by to bring about end times?

the program should repeat tonight, I'm going to have to catch it again.

[bkcc]

1. crock. of. shit.

Something for the churchgoers who are conspiracy theorists.

[notadmblnd]

2. I think so too

but I also think they believe it and that is very scary, theres a part two on tonight too.

[bkcc]

7. There is no end to the scary stuff that people believe.

I watched the same special a while back, and I was in awe of how readily people will twist reality to fit their beliefs.

The interpretations of the "code" are laughable at best. My favorite was the segment in which one of the scholars points to a pattern of words in the bible text that looks like a plane. Well, he surmises, this is obviously a prophecy about 9/11.

Amazing that the people who wrote down the Scriptures several hundred years after Christ's death would know how to hide secret code words in the form of vehicles that hadn't yet been invented. The Lord doth work in mysterious ways!

Utter crap.

[WoodrowFan]

21. no kidding

check the meeting room board here on the DU. Total flakolaville except for a few hardy sceptics such as arwalden and dookus.....

[bkcc]

33. Just checked out that part of the site for the first time.

Yikes!

Not my thing, but to each their own.
*cue "Twilight Zone" theme*

[aquart]

3. You mean the Pseudo-History Channel?

I hear they found the Ark.

[notadmblnd]

4. I know,,

I couldn't believe it when a fundie told me that

[yella_dawg]

6. How many times have the found the ark?

I forget.

[jdj]

18. The History Channel is horrible, I can't stand it.

It is the most biased cable channel short of the religious channel's. I saw a biography of Madaline Murry O'Hare that basically gloated at the fact that she and her family were murdered...It made me sick to my stomach.

I have boycotted the History channel every since. This incidentally, is what they are trying to do to PBS, and I am seeing more and more signs of it everyday.

[Junkdrawer]

22. Last night they had a FULL night of "Snipers"...

Must see TV - for Nazis.

Some wag here said it best. What have we become? In a word: Mordor.

[WLKjr]

5. I think what happens is

that there are two types of people, those who believe, and those who distort. The ones that distort pump it up the most, and WANT THE END TIMES TO COME. those who just believe, don't want it to happen in their lifetime, but are willing to accept it when and if it happens.


a DISTORTER=BUSH FUNDIES who say the world is ending now and they can't wait

just a BELIEVER-Regular Church Joe.

[zeemike]

8. This may not be a popular opinion

But I think there is something to it.
And you can do the research yourselves by getting a simple program that will let your computer search for things yourself. I have one and have found some interesting things just by fooling with it.
But remember that none of this in any way supports the RW fundies ideas, or supports any of there dogmas. It just points to an intelligence behind the Torah and the way it was written.

[WoodrowFan]

15. please call me.

I have a bridge to sell you, you'll love it!


sheesh, has been so throughly debunked I am in awe ANYONE buys it.

[zeemike]

26. Call you what?

The great and knowledgeable one that knows just what the truth is?
With a mind that great there is no room or reason to talk about it.

[WoodrowFan]

35. no, just "intelligent" will do

or "not guiliable" or maybe "took a basic logic class in college" Bible code. sheesh. maybe we can talk about there "being something to" the world being flat.

on second thought, never mind, not worth it. bye bye

[zeemike]

36. I don't question your intelligence

I question your method of demeaning other peoples intelligence.
Are all those people that came up with the code idea stupid and gullible?
And all that oppose it are smart?

[Chomskyite]

29. Skeptical Inquirer had an article on this

There were prophecies of 9/11 in Tolstoy's War and Peace, too.

[Dookus]

31. No, it really doesn't

It's been demonstrated frequently that the same kinds of predictions can be found in ANY text. Also, keep in mind that in Hebrew, vowels aren't written, making it even easier to make up words.

What is "STP"? Stop? Situp? Astep? Estop?

[DrWeird]

9. It's a mathematical trick.

You can do it with any given book and get the same kind of "predictions."

Wasn't there something in the Bible about not lying? Or something? Oh well.

Oh, and the History Channel is crap.

[Dob Bole]

10. Yesterday the History Channel was talking about UFOs

I don't really take the channel seriously. They just don't do history right.

[WLKjr]

13. seems like they have went downhill

and been doing so for a long while. HC used to be awesome.

[jdj]

19. Then I bet there have been some ownership shifts.

It's good to know they haven't always been twisted. I haven't had cable long, but HC has sucked since I got it.

[WLKjr]

23. It's been suck ass for about almost 2 years now.

I watched it all the time and got nothing but straight A's in my classes in high school history and I owe what I know to the former great channel, too bad it sucks now.

[still_one]

11. I can take any page of text from any book

rearange letters and come up with what I want

[istruthfull]

12. Bible Codes

I read the book about the bible codes awhile back and still don't know what to think about it. It was based on things like every 7th letter etc.. I do know that people can read whatever they want into whatever they want and some will believe it. Like this administration saying that sending jobs overseas will make our job market better.

[NewHampshireDem]

14. All you need to know

http://www.csicop.org/si/9711/bible-code.html

And, here, "Moby Dick":
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

[WoodrowFan]

17. thanks, I love CSICOP!

and it never ever ceases to amaze me how gulliable some folks are!

[Must_B_Free]

16. Wouldn't it be reliant on a particular VERSION of the bible?

WHat are they saing is the "official" one?

[jdj]

20. original Hebrew language.

But the link in the above site says number patterns can be found in any translations. Probably in The Satanic Verses, and Malleus Malleficarum as well. (and Mother Goose too, I'm sure).

[arwalden]

24. This Has Been Disproved Several Times

You can find ANY pattern of words in ANY book. It's not that difficult.

-- Allen

[Dookus]

30. It gets even easier

when you use a Hebrew text WITH NO VOWELS!

You can DKS could be Dookus, Dykes, Dukes, etc. etc.

[arwalden]

34. Ducks Dicks Docks Decks...

[VoteDemocratic2004]

25. Is that the show

Where they take every few letters and form words and then they put the sentences together and it consists of events that have happened in the past and whats going to happen in the future.

:scared: :scared:

[elperromagico]

27. Apparently you can get the same results with Moby Dick

and Tolstoy's War and Peace. I suspect that, if you took any long piece of literature, you would get some "predictions."

But, like the works of Nostradamus, these "predictions" are useless because they only seem to predict things which have already happened.

[mitchum]

28. A friend told me that there was a Bush campaign ad during every...

commercial break. Targeted marketing.

[elperromagico]

32. It's true.

Irritated the hell out of me. Especially when I was learning about such important aspects of history: Bible Codes and Nostradamus. ;)