Peta: Yes or No?

[PittPoliSci]

Poll question: Peta: Yes or No?

What do you think? I think some of their extreme members can make us look bad, so no.

[JohnKleeb]

1. nah I am sorry

I feel I have the right to eat meat. No personal beef with vegans or veganterians, its just well I like meat.

[bloodyjack]

29. thats a horrible pun, it might be a bannable offense.

i am alerting on your post

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[montanacowboy]

2. PETA does a lot of good

they do have some radical members, but they are right in their mission - just look at some of the literature - it will break your heart.

[PittPoliSci]

5. i know...

I can't eat at KFC because of some of the stuff that they have produced.

However, in their tax returns, you'll find checks disguised as loans to help cover legal fees for people who openly admit they firebomb labratories where animals are experimented on.

Saw it on Penn and Teller's Bullshit! So take it for what it's worth...but I believe it.

*edited for clarity*

[smada]

11. Haven't seen that episode

but if one of the people they profiled is Rodney Coronado, you can believe it. This is one case that proves the adage 'truth is stranger than fiction'. You couldn't make up stuff about this guy that's worse than what's actually on his rap sheet.

The guy has a pretty long and verifiable criminal record and is on record (on videotape actually) demonstrating to college students how to make home made bombs and saying he's an enemy of the United States.

He's just plain insane if you ask me.

[PittPoliSci]

14. That's him!

They showed the video of him telling kids how to make bombs. He's a fucking lunatic. They also cut to PETA's president saying praises of Coronado.

Another funny part in that episode was when, sifting through tax records again, they found a note that showed PETA purchased a 10,000 dollar freezer.

The kind they store meat in.

But since nobody there ate meat, Penn said that experts said the only other use of a freezer that large was to store cadavers. Then he showed a statistic that said they took in roughly 2000 animals last year, and euthanized about half of them.

hah!

[Jack Rabbit]

3. This PETA

Person Enjoys Tasty Animals.

[PeaceForever]

21. Wow man, that's funny.

I think I'll change my vote to "no" based on it.

You must have been the debate champion in high school, which makes me really admire you.

[Placebo]

4. I tried to become a vegetarian...

but I loved hamburgers and chicken too much :shrug:

as NIXON said, "There really is nothing like a good hamburger."

PS: oh yea, and PETA members are terrorists.

[JohnKleeb]

8. You know that Nixon's brother had his own burger restaurant

The Nixon Burger :eyes: that must be appealing, I wouldnt touch it though, it would be a dick like his brother.

[Placebo]

9. Mmm I Would Love a DICK BURGER!

sorry I couldn't resist...

his brother should have opened a hotdog stand, he could call it DICK'S WEINERS... :bounce:

[JohnKleeb]

17. His brother was Donald though I think

You can have your burger but I would much prefer fish tacos. Nah its ok, perfectly natural, I just would prefer fish tacos :), to each his own though. Nixon Burger haha, still cracks me up.

[PeaceForever]

22. You don't have to be a vegetarian to improve the plight of animals.

You should look into how animals are treated in factory farms.

I eat meat, dairy, and eggs, but only the cruelty-free kind that you find at Earthfare or Whole Foods.

[Wheelie_Alex]

34. You don't have to bomb shit

and destroy private property either. Not a single destruction of private property does anything good for PETA, except give their more extreme members cause for celebration and alienate the rest.

[PatGund]

6. Two words come to mind to describe PETA

Those words being "idiots" and "asshats"

[LastKnight]

7. if you mean People Eating Tasty Animals, yes. nt

[PeaceForever]

23. Good lord, posts like that remind me of what you see on freerepublic.com

It's sad, really, that a person can MAKE FUN OF a group that tries to ease the extreme suffering that man puts animals through.

[LastKnight]

30. dont you 'good lord' me...

not my fault you have no sense of humor.

im all for humane treatment of animals, but peta or some of its members, anyway can get a bit extreame in some of its methods.

and thanks for basically calling me a freeper. by all means you have your opnion and that is your right. but you judge me on one post in which i was joking. all you know about me is what i put fourth. so uh, i guess what im trying to say nicely... is go cheney yourself. dont judge what you dont know.

-LK

[PeaceForever]

31. No need for you to be so insecure.

It's okay, I used to be insecure too.

I'm sure you're a smart person. When you tell jokes in the future, you should tell something more original. "People Eating Tasty Animals" has been so overused for the past decade that it's now cliched. Kind of like the "Why did the chicken cross the road?" joke.

[jukes]

40. let me add

that these animal jokes are hurtful, hateful & crass. they don't make you sound cool, they just sound stupid & hillbilly.

[LastKnight]

43. again...

people judging on a joke, one or two posts...

i make no apologies for making a joke. live with it. call me a hilbilly and stupid if you like, i know its not true so i dont care.

-LK

[rene moon]

10. I'm a veggie half the time

(hubby is a veggie and I am when I am home---not so at work) and I agree with some of PETA's ideals but most of the time, they are too extremist.

I love animals, more than people most times, but their tactics can be construed as terroristic.

[ChoralScholar]

12. Definitely

I'll have a ham and cheese PETA

[texastoast]

13. Some yes, some no

I can see where many feel that animal domination is a natural course of things (food, shelter, clothing, medicine), but companies like Gillette, Revlon, and other big name "shampoo and cosmetic" makers really piss me off when they test their products on animals. I mean, do we have enough shampoo already?

I always try to buy cosmetic items/toiletries that contain the "cruelty-free" or "not tested on animals" logos (Freeman, Burt's Bees, Tom's of Maine to name a few).

[PittPoliSci]

15. i can understand that...

But these people want total animal liberation, they think that the ownership of pets is inherently WRONG. I think that's about some of the most fucked up shit ever. I bet a few DUers would sooner die than give up their beloved kitty.

[onebigbadwulf]

16. Yes and No. Every organization shares this in common....

If any one organization had everything go their way, things would go to hell in a handbasket instantly. This is what we've seen the repukes do in the past 4 years.

You can vote yes, however, and still only half-agre with what they do.

Same thing with the ACLU, Church, or the democratic party itself.

[Skip Intro]

18. GOD BLESS PETA!

Who would have ever imagined that a group dedicated to the well-being and quality of life of all creatures would be so vilified?

Imho, this is rw spin that has taken root on the left, over the years.

Repetition works. Repetition works. Repetition works.

[PittPoliSci]

32. well, it's not all spin. n/t

[jukes]

19. their extreme elements

do attract the press, but, let's face it, no-one on the other side is going to hate us more because of it. i dowt they effect many undecideds.

they got their way, i got mine.

[wiggle-room]

20. Yes.

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24. Make us look bad?

I wouldn't worry about it too much, they do a pretty good job making themselves look bad.


http://www.peta.org/feat/arafat


"PETA’s letter to Yasser Arafat

February 3, 2003

Yasser Arafat, President
Palestinian National Authority
Ramallah, West Bank
Palestinian Authority

1 page via facsimile: 972 7 282 2365

Your Excellency:

I am writing from an organization dedicated to fighting animal abuse around the world. We have received many calls and letters from people shocked at the bombing in Jerusalem on January 26 in which a donkey, laden with explosives, was intentionally blown up.

All nations behave abominably in many ways when they are fighting their enemies, and animals are always caught in the crossfire. The U.S. Army abandoned thousands of loyal service dogs in Vietnam. Al-Qaeda and the British government have both used animals in hideously cruel biological weaponry tests. We watched on television as stray cats in your own compound fled as best they could from the Israeli bulldozers.

Animals claim no nation. They are in perpetual involuntary servitude to all humankind, and although they pose no threat and own no weapons, human beings always win in the undeclared war against them. For animals, there is no Geneva Convention and no peace treaty—just our mercy.

If you have the opportunity, will you please add to your burdens my request that you appeal to all those who listen to you to leave the animals out of this conflict?

We send you sincere wishes of peace.

Very truly yours,

Ingrid Newkirk
President, PETA"

[The Flaming Red Head]

25. I heard dog taste like chicken

and so does cat. Yum. Preparing dog casserole with kitten entree for the folks.

[jukes]

37. The Flaming Red Head

that's seriously unfunny. & trite.

you know what i like to do? slap shit out of animal abusers.

and i like to point out how vapid, weak, & trivial people are that joke about hurting animals.

i spend a lot of time caring & rescuing cats and dogs that have been abandoned & abused. i take it very seriously. & i wd *gut* any asshole that i caught trying to hurt one of mine. eviscerate.

please spend a bit more time reading & thinking before you make stupid, redneck bumper sticker jokes.

oh, & btw, cooked people smell like pork. odd coincidence, neh?

[niceperson]

26. I'm not an animal rights activist

but i respect the opinions of people in PETA. I think as an organization they could use better PR, but there are animal rights groups that are very violent and imo much worse than peta.

[PittPoliSci]

33. groups like the ALF

But, their legal fees, are often bankrolled by PETA. They're just as guilty.

[bicentennial_baby]

27. Much love to PETA

and mad props...Fighting the good fight, all the way :thumbsup:

[Mrs_Beastman]

28. I'm not a vegan..but I agree that we ,as a whole, consume

too many meat products. I just think the combo of millions of Americans wanted to eat meat everyday and for cheap is a bad combination. It's a formula that leads to nasty conditions at slaughterhouses (mad cow disease, shitty health inspections, overuse of growth hormones and anti-biotics).

So, I'm not against eating meat, I'm against being a cheap glutton.Brain and I tried the vegan thing, but, now if we eat read meat, it's once a month and organic. Chicken, once every-other week.

[Gothic Sponge]

35. I'm vegetarian. I like PETA's intentions, but sometimes their methods suck

[underseasurveyor]

36. Many say PETA is extreme. Is that really the case anymore?

Or has it become a popular myth? I think when they first began they did some pretty "extreme" things, sure, but now they're established and well known. They got the attention and brought to light to the plight of animals, which in my book is not ever a bad thing.

Hell all I ever hear anymore about PETA's activities is sneaking hidden cameras into animal factories, farms, etc. to document and expose the henious abuses, crimes and living condition of animals that humans intend to use for their benefit and profit, and well they do protest naked :wow:

So what is PETA doing these days that is still so extreme? Are there news stories some place, or some links? I'd truly appreciate knowing.

[WMliberal]

38. i met the guy who runs their vegan department

he was in charge of a hilarious stunt a few months back. They set up a traveling big screen tv at steakhouses, constantly showing clips of the goings-on in slaughterhouses. very unappetizing.
i also remember in 2000 when they dumped a dumptruck full of manure in front of and behind Bush's bus.
they're better as pranksters than activists, if you ask me. they're a little too shrill to win anyone over.

[jukes]

39. media spin & urban legend

it's like all the stories of street gangs w/ automatic weapons. it just isn't true. drive around the city @ night. hear any full-auto fire? it's an unmistakeable sound.

peta has eft up *some*, but they are liberals, ^ most make huge personal sacrifices to stop terrible occurences.

[underseasurveyor]

41. Yes that certainly seems the case.

Because where are any links about these extremist stories/people that the "peta sucks" crowd screams about?

I also don't agree with that, "they make us look bad" crap.
Peta's cool and they don't have the power to "make me" look bad, good or any other way. That's a shoe that doesn't belong to me so why would I try and wear it;-)

[Radical Activist]

42. PETA is very effective

The fact that everyone knows who PETA is and what they stand for is the proof. Even if you disagree with them, you know who they are. That's more than thousands of liberal no-name groups can claim. I don't agree with all of PETA's issues, but they get results. They got McDonald's to change some of their policies and not many people can say they took on the world's biggest corporation and won. Take that.

[underseasurveyor]

44. :-)

:toast: