I am celibate

[bloodyjack]

SO WHY THE HELL AREN'T YOU

Pleasure is an ILLUSION

[Dookus]

1. Loneliness and pain

is also an illusion. I choose to go with the happy illusion.

[bloodyjack]

13. horrible isolation, on the other hand, is NOT

I choose reality!

[Dookus]

18. we're not choosing

between reality and illusion. You decided happiness is an illusion. I believe unhappiness is just as much an illusion. Pick your illusion.

[bloodyjack]

24. well golly, isn't ANYTHING illusory

Pleasure and displeasure are illusory

NOTHINGNESS IS ALL

[JohnnyRingo]

2. Addicted to dopamine n/t

[alittlelark]

3. Or is it an Allusion?

;-)

[bloodyjack]

26. to what?

[alittlelark]

73. To the minimalist inside of you.

[onebigbadwulf]

4. In the words of Nelson..

"HA! HA!"


--------

Dreams are an illusion too, but I'd rather have pleasurable dreams than boring ones or nightmares any day of the week.

[Placebo]

5. Celibacy is another word for 'NOT GETTIN' ANY!'

:bounce:

well it is.

[bloodyjack]

9. NOT NECESSARILY

you are simply jealous of my detachment from the brutish impermanence of all things 'material'!

my question to you is, to whom will you answer when your body can ask no more! HUH

[Placebo]

12. Penis.

Just because.

:bounce:

[bloodyjack]

17. please coöperate

Can you tell me why people seem to avoid answering my questions?

Are they intimidated by my BRUTAL HONESTY

[Placebo]

20. BECAUSE YOU'RE DRUNK OFF YOUR ASS AND MAKING NO SENSE!

You > :crazy: :beer: :crazy:

[bloodyjack]

22. what do you mean? I make no sense?

What do you want for me to clarify. All you have to do is ask!

[Placebo]

25. I still have no idea what your question is.

lol

[bloodyjack]

31. TO WHOM WILL YOU ANSWER WHEN YOUR BODY CAN ASK NO MORE

Don't worry, it's rhetorical :)

[scarlet_owl]

6. I am too.

Sadly, I've been married for nearly four years. :(

[DieboldMustDie]

7. That post might just getcha a few offers.

;)

[bloodyjack]

8. GAH

MISREADING

EDIT: DRUNK

[scarlet_owl]

10. Heh. Only from the "fat-housewife" fetishists.

[bloodyjack]

14. MISREADING

[VoteDemocratic2004]

11. I'm stupid what does that mean?

Can you be celibate and be single?

[bloodyjack]

15. most celibates are single if in fact they are CELIBATE

what on earth are you talking about?

[VoteDemocratic2004]

27. I am not that experienced

I thought that it might mean that you didn't go out on your SO.

[bloodyjack]

30. it requires little experience

all you need is dictionary.com

el·i·ba·cy Audio pronunciation of "celibacy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sl-b-s)
n.

1. Abstinence from sexual intercourse, especially by reason of religious vows.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

32. Thanks for looking it up for me

It saved me a trip from getting up off of my butt. I appreciate the definition and have a nice night.

[WindRavenX]

16. because I think sex is a deeply spiritual and loving act?

:shrug:
Sex is great.

[bloodyjack]

19. soon enough you will learn the truth

the body is a burden and the spirit is a non-entity!

also love is a sham

[WindRavenX]

21. love is not a sham

I feel sorry for you if you believe that love is false and the body is a burden; nothing could be more awesome and spiritual that the human body joined in love.

[bloodyjack]

28. love is very much a sham

And I feel sorry for you for believing sensuality is something worthy of our exultation!

Death and suffering, awesome and spiritual?

it is like they said in Franny and Zooey and certain Hindu texts: this truly is the Iron Age

[WindRavenX]

33. Death and suffering is all around us

Making love is the antithesis of death; it is what keeps us holy.

[bloodyjack]

34. HAHAHAHAHAHAH

spare me your sanctimony! making love only perpetuates suffering and death! it does not sanctify! :puke:

[WindRavenX]

35. This will be my last post in this thread...

...you need help. Viewing sex as an act that "perpetuates suffering and death" is very unhealthy.
Goodbye.

[bloodyjack]

36. I WIN!!!!!!!!!!1

well it does

sorry, i'm just being a little childish here.

but how is m yperception of sexual intercourse in any way unhealthy?

[WindRavenX]

37. why is it unhealthy?

Because you fail to recognize that making love, between those who love each other, is a loving act that unites and is truly love.
It isn't bad.

[bloodyjack]

39. that's quite a leap to assume that love is not 'bad' in the first place

much less 'good'

edit: or that coitus i s necessary to reinforce a UNION between couples

thanks for responding (not SARCASM/IRONY(

[WindRavenX]

41. but that's what you said

You said love was a sham.
:shrug:
Love is the greatest thing I've known- and it involved sex. It hurt to love another person, but the joy of loving him outweighed the pain.

[bloodyjack]

47. shams arent necessarily BAD

theyre just illusory
:shrug:
pain and pleasure, though, are no less one and the same, and the pursuit of either is ultimately fruitless

[UdoKier]

44. What's wrong with death and suffering?

Without death there can be no life. Without suffering, how could we really appreciate pleasure?

Besides, sexual activity doesn't put you any closer to the grave than any other activity, nor does it cause suffering, if sensible precautions are taken.

I would agree with the statement that sex is overrated, though. It's just another bodily function that happens to be mostly pleasurable, not the spiritual apex that some make it out to be.

[bloodyjack]

48. BUT WITH THE ACT OF SEXUAL INTERCOURSE COMES THE ACTUALIZATION OF DEATH

</ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME>

I'm sorry BUT I'm just unable to sever that connection between sex and death BUT the epitome of pleasure and impermanence of all things corporeal (incl. human perception) seem totally inseperable by my poor poor judgement

[UdoKier]

69. Dude, your death is beingg "actualized" every minute of every day.

Your cells are decaying, oxidizing, dying all the time. They are designed to do so. The act of sexual intercourse has little or no effect on the rate at which we are all dying.

We're all born with one foot in the grave. It kinda sucks, but it's a big motivator to do something good with the little time we have while we're here.

Honestly, I don't get where you are coming from. Maybe this whole thread is just a little ruse to entertain you. If so, kudos to you for originality, but if you really think like this, I feel sorry for you.

[Bertha Venation]

66. Jesus Christ. What the hell are you on?

And what do your posts say when you're sober?

[Mojambo]

23. The only response I can think of is

"Right on man."

[UdoKier]

29. You will ejaculate no matter what, assuming you are a man.

If you don't have sex or masturbate you will mess your pants at night. Why not enjoy your orgasm rather than let it go to waste?

I took care of business myself from 13 to 19 - and that was quite good, so was sexual activity in my 20s, as was early marriage. Now, with kids, things are a bit sparse so it's back to Rosy Palm and her sisters again, but that's fine too. I can honestly say that sex is no big deal to me, I can take it or leave it, so I guess I'm sort of agreeeing with you, but not to the point of endorsing not masturbating. Nocturnal emissions are stupid. Masturbating is no more sinful than pissing or shitting. You do it to avoid a mess.

[bloodyjack]

38. UdoKier!!!!!111`

J]I ]\\\THOGUHT YOU EWRE ANYTHING BUT A FATALIST!!!!!!!!

[UdoKier]

40. ???

Fatalist?

Not really. You can put a rubber band around it real tight and maybe your bod will reabsorb that mess.

But why fight nature?

I interpreted celibacy as total lack of ANY sexual activity at all. Is that so?

[bloodyjack]

43. BECAUSE

to resist natural impulse is the ultimate revolt!!!

[Placebo]

45. Does It Count As Sex If I Masturbate Another Man?

???

I need to know these things!

[mykpart]

42. I was once celibate for 8 years,

and at another time in my life I was celibate for 6 years and intended to be so for life, but I fell in love and married late in life.

How long have you been celibate, and do you plan to remain so indefinitely?

[bloodyjack]

46. I have been celibate since I turned 19

and I DO intend to remain celibate until something really really extraordinary occurs

edit: something really really extraordinary like reelection of Bush or nuclear winter (whichever comes first)

[Swamp Rat]

49. GOOD! I hope you always stay celibate...

HA! That means more for me! In your illusion you are celibate and in my illusion I get to have animal sex with the person you let get away. :P

[Baja Margie]

50. I don't know

but, like, maybe you should become a Monk.

[Swamp Rat]

51. Não seja doida Marjorie Grisak!

Você é Brasileira?

[bloodyjack]

52. no no no

celibacy IS actually definable whereas PLEASURRRRRRRE is most certainly NOT!!!! there is such a huge difference! why are you deluding both yourself and every reader of this thread to believe that all does not end in death???

[Swamp Rat]

53. Ahh, but you do not understand Grasshopper.

I fully embrace death, including every "little death" - the zenith of orgasm.

You'll never convert this Hedonist to nothingness, but I wish happiness in your black emptyness... I'll praise your endeavor at the alter of Dionysus and celebrate with great libation, in your name, the benevolent Bacchus!

[bloodyjack]

54. stop that!

also MAHAYASMELLBAD is too silly a name in which to celebrate

EDIT: UNFORTUNATE TYPO

[Swamp Rat]

55. LOL! Stop celebrating life? Au contraire mon amie.

Perhaps Mayans smelled bad but they had a good time... especially when they feasted on missionaries. If only I were a Mayan back then. I've read that French missionaries were particularly tasty.

"Como Era Gostoso o Meu Francês" said the Tupinambá girl!

[bloodyjack]

56. well, celebrate if you must

but please disallow any libations in the name of MAHAYASMELLBAD

so, uh...do you think this thread is officially dead, as we all will one day be?

[Swamp Rat]

57. Sorry, I cannot disallow any libation for any reason

It is my nature and fate in life to "libate." You'll have to forgive that.

The thread will die as you and I will someday... as will your celibacy if you are lucky. Personally, I've been collecting "frequent flyer" miles, to be collected upon my return to Brasil.

[tigereye]

70. are you drunk

or a Buddhist or a drunken Buddhist? :) If you are a Buddhist then what you say would make sense. And if you are a Buddhist, then everything does not end in death, but perhaps eventually in enlightenment. So unless you were a decadent pig in your last existence, you still have some time for fun in this and perhaps future ones. Hope you got some sleep. Perhaps many here were celibate in their last existences and that is why they frequent the lounge. ;)

[salvorhardin]

58. Why aren't I celibate?

because sex is fun. That's the only reason I need.

[bloodyjack]

59. FUN IS ALSO AN ILLUSION

do you know why

because fun is undefinable

please let this thread die

[bloodyjack]

60. as the pixies sort of once sang

THREAD

IS

DEAD!!!

[salvorhardin]

61. So what?

Illusion or not, fun is fun. You challenge everyone else as to why they aren't celibate and then seemingly are upset when you're told over and over that the basic answer is "'cause we's likes it." Celibacy is the correct choice for you. Great. It isn't for most people. C'est la vie.

[bloodyjack]

62. however if celibacy WERE the "correct" choice for most people

the world would be a much better place, wouldnt it

[Nikia]

63. It is up to you if you want to be celibate

If you feel that abstaining from sex makes you more spiritual and makes your life better, I am happy that you are making this choice for yourself.
I choose to be married and sexual with my husband. We hope to become parents.
Sex is a naturual part of life. If you believe that sex makes us an animal and celebicacy makes us divine, it is for you to live this way. The rest of us will continue living in the flesh while you reach enlightenment.

[BringEmOn]

64. Does that mean you sell a bit here and sell a bit there......?

[yellowcanine]

65. Does celibacy allow masturbation? If not, what if you have a wet dream?

Are you still celibate?

[rlev1223]

67. if masturbation is not allowed

I am, to steal a phrase from Eleanor Roosevelt, fucked.

[yellowcanine]

68. Eleanor Roosevelt said THAT? I'm shocked!

.

[HEyHEY]

71. I've had it forced upon me

[yellowcanine]

72. Forcible celibacy? Isn't that a crime?

.