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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:43 PM
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The Best and Worst Actors To Switch From Playing Hero To Playing A Villain
The new Tom Cruise movie marks the first time that Tom has played a bad guy. What do you all think is the Best/Worst switch from good guy to bad guy?

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:44 PM
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1. Best: Henry Fonda. "Once Upon A Time In The West".
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 12:46 PM by Spider Jerusalem
There is no other possible answer to this question.

As to worst...can't think of one right off the top of my head.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:47 PM
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2. Can I just say that Tom Cruise is the worst actor?
Hero, Villain, or otherwise.

God, I hate the dude.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:08 PM
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19. Don't think he's terrible
But, he is always "Tom Cruise" on the screen. A truly good actor becomes the character.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:47 PM
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3. John Wayne in "The Shootist" did a good job of playing a villian.
He played a ruthless gunslinger who discovered he was dying of cancer. It mirrored Wayne in real life. It was a very moving performance, I thought.

Probably the worst was Woody Allen in "Casino Royale". Hideous. :-)
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:52 PM
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4. I have stopped going to tom cruise movies since that one with
the frogs coming down...that was the wierdest film I have ever seen. And I don't go to violent movies or scary movies...so that eliminates me as a fan....

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:54 PM
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5. "Magnolia" was an interesting film.
Very quirky, definitely. A lot of people (like you) didn't like it. It's a love/hate kind of film. I did like it. Great acting all around (even Cruise). Great original score by Aimee Mann.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:03 PM
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8. I felt I had been ravaged.....like I had been in the middle of
a really loud and horrific dysfunctional situation.....It had all the drama and trauma of a dysfunctional family.....I was devastated after wards....

People called it his one of his greatest works.....

It was horrible.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:55 PM
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6. Robin Williams makes a good bad guy...
Insomnia and One Hour Photo...

He's a little obvious, but at least he's not making me want to puke anymore. Patch Adams and Toys, I'm talking to YOU! :puke:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:25 PM
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20. Better a good bad guy than a bad good guy!

I have to admit that I was a bit more surprised by Denzel Washington and Harrison Ford playing villains. I did try to cut them some slack though, and pretend I'd never seen them in anything else, because actors consider it a cop-out to only want to play the hero (one reason why Ronald Reagan wasn't on "The Actors' Studio", as far as I know).
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:02 PM
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7. Cruise played a bad guy (of sorts) in "Magnolia" and was...
pretty good in the role. Oh, and what about "Interview with the Vampire"? I'm hardly a big Cruise fan but he's got a bit more range than a lot of people give him credit for.

Henry Fonda in "Once Upon a Time In the West"---man, was he a good "bad guy in that great flick. Harrison Ford gets grudging points from me for a good performance as a nasty son of a bitch in "The Mosquito Coast," but overall I found that movie very, very unpleasant.

By the way, does anyone else think "Collateral" has been wildy over-praised? I'm a big Michael Mann fan, and I thought Cruise and Jamie Foxx were both good in the film. But the story struck me as so implausible, and with not very much to say. It can't touch "Heat," IMO.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:17 PM
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9. I'm not a Cruise fan but he ruled in Magnolia
and should have won that Best Supporting Oscar.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:23 PM
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10. Magnolia was robbed.
One of the most original big studio pics in years, and it lost to American Beauty?!

American Beauty was good, albeit conventional, but Magnolia was a far better film in many was, artistically and technically.

And as far as performances go, the ensemble for Magnolia was incredible.

Too bad PT Anderson sucks now.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:26 PM
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12. But Cruise lost to Michael Caine from "The Cider House Rules"
Mind you, that's my favorite book but I hated the movie
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:35 PM
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15. Caine's good, but he phoned that one in.
In fact, the whole movie was phoned in. Ca-ching-g-g-g-g!

Nearly as unfaithful as the terrible "Simon Birch".

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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:52 PM
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17. I adore Caine, but his accent in "Cider House"...
...bugged the hell out of me. It was incredibly distracting. Maybe I missed some crucial plot point (and I didn't read the book).

Anyway, give me "Alfie" and "Hannah and Her Sisters" any day.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:48 PM
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16. I agree about the cast of Magnolia. So many goddman great...
performances (I think John C. Reilly is mind-blowingly good). I don't think I've seen a PT Anderson film since Magnolia. What's he done? I figured it was a bad sign when he changed his moniker to "PT," which can only remind me of the great American huckster P.T. Barnum.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:39 PM
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18. "Punch Drunk Love", which was a bag of crap.
I'll NEVER see another PT Anderson movie again. I mean that.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:54 PM
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26. Ah, I forgot about that one. Never saw it myself but...
...many seemed to like it. I guess I'm one of those folks who feels that life's too short to waste an extra four or five hours discovering if Adam Sandler is a good dramatic actor. I'd rather waste that time right here on DU!
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:24 PM
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11. Glad I'm not alone in thinking he was good in it!
Especially since I respect your opinion and judgement. (Except for those times when you go mad.)
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:33 PM
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14. Saw 'Collateral' last weekend.....
It definitely was no 'Heat' or 'The Insider', but one of the things I like about
Mann's movies is that they actually get better with repeated viewings. So
I'm wondering if that will be true about Collateral. The jury is still out until
I see it at least once more.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:29 PM
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13. David Carradine was surprisingly good...

in switch from Kwai Chang Caine to Bill.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:50 PM
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24. I'll second that
though i really think Bill is his only decent role (and by decent i mean he was totaly freakin fantastic as Bill). I've never seen him anythign more than mediocre anywhere else.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:28 PM
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21. Bogart
Started out playing heavies in gangster flicks.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:31 PM
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22. Not the greatest actor or movie...
But Michael Keaton was an excellent bad guy in Pacific Heights.

Cold and creepy, yet very real.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:34 PM
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23. How About DeNiro and Murray In Mad Dog & Glory
DeNiro plays the good guy and Murray the mobster. And he's a BAD, BAD man! That's a really good one of guys playing against type.

Can't think of a really bad one, though.
The Professor
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:53 PM
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25. I may be in the minority, but I thought Carrey's 'Cable Guy'
was one of the creepiest ever.

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