Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Greatest "Confederate Sympathizer" Crime of All Time

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:03 AM
Original message
Greatest "Confederate Sympathizer" Crime of All Time
(Apart from lynchings and bombings and other genuinely murderous deeds, of course... somebody call 911 before I have a freaking stroke) :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:06 AM
Response to Original message
1. The Confederacy was the First Third Reich of America.
:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. No offense, but that is the worse statement I've ever read
Edited on Sun Aug-22-04 12:13 AM by sasquatch
No you can say that the confederacy was the first fascist state in the hemisphere of either North or South America. But the phrase "Third Reich" means Third Government or Third Ruler in German.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Personally I don't disagree... be prepared for some scorching, tho
Some white southern DUers defend the Confederacy, though of course none of them endorse slavery, and I do understand that and don't blame them for it. I honestly don't mean for this to be an attack on them, or indeed on the Confederacy itself. The genuine Southern Confederacy of 1860-1865 had absolutely nothing to do with this image.

I wish the "Fergit Hell, The South Will Rise Again" folks had left Jeanne d'Arc out of their propaganda, though, particularly since they are probably pleased now to sneer at the French as "cowards" and "cheese eating surrender monkeys"; and in fact would have been the ones running from her at Orleans or Patay.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. I've never seen a DUer defend the Confederacy, are you serious?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. Yes, absolutely... as I said, though, they DON'T defend slavery
but they do feel that the South should have been let to depart in peace, that most Southerns fought for reasons that had nothing to do with slavery, that Lincoln and Sherman were war criminals, and that the Union's military response to the Confederate firing on Fort Sumter was an act of aggression.

I disagree with their point of view, but I do not condemn them for it. They certainly have a right to be proud Southerners and to be proud of their regional history. Even if I had the power to do so I would never dream of taking that away from them. And, I must admit, some of their observations about the Union have a greater degree of truth than the "common knowledge" on that war we Northerners have all picked up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. You are totally projecting your warped opinion of southern attitudes
as fact. It is not.

First: ""they do feel the south should have been let to depart in peace"

Could you please link to a DUer's post that would validate this nonsense? I've read DU daily for over two years and I've never seen ANYTHING like that.

Second: You think there are DUer's who think Lincoln was a "war-criminal"? You're not even a decent infiltrator, friend. You're really sad.

I really don't understand what your game is, nor do I really care, but your bullshit stereotypes cannot be allowed to stand. Total shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Woah, turbo, cool your jets. You obviously haven't read every thread
or at least you haven't read them all closely, or you'd know better; and therefore it's a little silly for you to work yourself up into such self-righteous high dudgeon. Start paying more attention to the Civil War and "Southern" threads from now on.

As for my "game", I can tell you exactly what it is. I've been accused of "Southern Bashing" for some of my comments in earlier threads. Please do feel free to look them up if you like. Because of that I now try to distinguish between the historical Southern Confederacy, the Neoconfederate nutjobs who dress up and write for web sites like www.southerncaucus.org, and white Southern DUers who are perfectly wonderful people but who are a little sensitive about, as they perceive it, the criticism all things Southern get here when some of these hot-button issues come up.

But from now on I'll be glad to personally notify you every time I come across a poster making one of these comments. Would that make you happy?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Let me pm you and see what we can work out...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #10
14. No, I think the burden is on you to provide proof of your assertions...
which, if you can't back them up with proof, are very irresponsible and, well, just crap.

Signed,

Another longtime DUer who has never seen another DUer spout the bullshit you claim southern DUers spout.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 02:43 AM
Response to Reply #14
17. Not all Southern DUers, it's only been a few, as I said.
And, again, you've evidently missed some of the civil war / confederate flag / abraham lincoln stuff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:18 AM
Response to Original message
3. I don't get your post
Is there a link we're supposed to look at or something?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. I'm just pissed at the picture, really... if you want their link:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 01:41 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. So you find a skank post of white supremists
and try to tar DU with it? Get real. No one is gonna fall for that shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. I've sent you a pm and I'll apologise here too
Don't know why I went so crazy but I really hope you can forgive me...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. Apologize if you like,
but it is just that kind of irresponsible, bigoted, anti-southerners post that also pisses me off. I'm damned sick of them.

This one went much further than any I've seen before, though. Saying that there are confederacy defenders on DU? BAH!!

:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 02:34 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. Okay, so let me get this straight:
It's "southern-bashing" to criticize the Confederacy or identify the confederate battle flag with racism. Yet when I try to show some respect for those same peoples' opinions, lest I be accused of being "anti-southern", I'm still "anti-southern".

Whatever, I can't beat that logic. I will notify you the next time I come across one of these posts, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. who the hell criticized you for criticizing the Confederacy?
Show me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 04:10 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC