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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:50 PM
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I think I have some kind of memory problem.
I've wondered about this for years... I can read books and watch movies over and over because I forget most of the details about them. If I don't write something down several times, there's a good chance I'll forget it entirely - no matter how important. There's very little of my childhood that I remember - just highlights (or lowlights, as the case may be). Even things that I'm very into or enjoy very much fade very quickly.

Anyone else have this problem?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:54 PM
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1. I don't know how old you are, but age does have something to
do with it...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:55 PM
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3. 34
But I've always been this way.

Ironically, it helped me in school. I always studied extra hard so I made straight A's when I applied myself.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:30 PM
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28. Where did you grow up and vacation???
its everywhere - but more so downstream or near bodies of water = lakes, etc.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:33 PM
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30. lol... vacation
All my life in Dallas, TX, with a few trips to Lake Whitney.

That's it!

Well, and a few days in Chicago, LA, and Indianapolis. But that's it. Really.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:39 PM
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37. Texas has 2 of the largest nuclear plants up-wind from Houston and Dallas.
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 02:40 PM by seventhson
http://pro-resources.net/nuclear-terrorism.html

search the term dallas and see on this page (scroll down to second map and read sentence just above the map)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:42 PM
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40. You're wonderful!!!!
Thank you so much for all this info and the link... I'll be communicating this by flyer as well.

:yourock:
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:06 PM
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42. i also think they WANT us all to be sick and unable to resist
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 05:17 PM by seventhson


and even die.

To Bush/Cheney and all their corporations - humanity is an expendable commodity to be exploited and destroyed when no longer useful for their hegemony.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:06 PM
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43. Gee thanks = I think it is important for people to know that Bush&Cheney
have deep ties to the Nuclear industry and nuclear lobby and that nukes are killing us.

It is also important to know that, indeed, we are NOT crazy and losing our minds and that it is NOT genetically inherited disease or mental illness.

It is corporate death machinery damaging us with almost every gulpful of air and drink of water and tatse of produce (that has come from irradiated water).

The thyroid problem is just a pieve of it -- but an important part. The nuclear elements which damage the brain and make it hard to concentrate, give us chronic fatigue, etc., also damage our immune system and make us prone to be susceptible to minor ailments or viruses, bacteria, etc, which can ultimately do severe damage and even kill us. But there are two things you should know: radioiodine, which damages the thyroid, is only detectable for about a month or two in the system (half-life is about 8-18 days meaning it completely depletes in a month or two and is no longer measurable as a poison in the system - but the damage to the thyroid production cells is done - like needles puncturing balloons the radiaoactive particles emitted shoot through the cell walls of the thyroid producing cells and kill them) It gets absorbed like iodine (it IS iodine - but it is radioactive iodine - which the thyroid needs to work properly)

So you cannot PROVE that this is the cause. You can only prove the thyroid has been damaged by SOMETHING.

2nd thing to know - the thyroid regulates body temperature and heart rate and , for excample, the absorption of iron by the body- so it affects your whole body and it is critical that you eat right and rebuild your immune system with anti-oxidants as well as minerals and caratinoids, etc, toi fight off the things the thyroid is no longer fully able to make work.

If you do those things you should get better.

I am also a user of magnet therapy (read some studies from Johns Hopkins and MIT which show they help with blood flow and are actually probiotic and reduce pain in clinical studies) . I use them in my pillow (buy them cheap at radioshack instead of the fancy, low power "healing" ones which are generally not as strong or effective) and even wear them sometimes.

I think Ginkco also probably helps. In large doses. (But I have a tree nearby where aI pick the leaves and boil them for tea instead of paying for them - they are expensive.


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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:54 PM
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2. To some extent
I picked up a book the other day and started to read it. It seemed familiar but had no clue what it was about. My daughter came into the room and said "You haven't finished reading that yet?"

I'm ashamed to admit I read the book a month ago and totally forgot what the plot was.

For me, I think it's menopause. This is a common symptom of going through the change. I seem to remember that I once had a good memory.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:56 PM
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4. Well a month later I'd be okay
But wait a year are two, and it's a whole other story. And I'm certain I've never had a good memory.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:56 PM
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5. At least you haven't lost your keys...
If you had, there'd be a 300 post thread about it ATA...
;-)

Actually, are you in your 50's? If so, more common that people realize. But I think I recall your picture, and guess you to be in your late 20's... in which case see a doctor!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:58 PM
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8. lol
No, 34... and I might do just that!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:57 PM
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6. I'm the same way...
but my memory is strange. I forget the plots of books and movies, but I remember the most useless trivia.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:00 PM
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9. Heck
I'd be happy to remember trivia... I seem to do halfway OK watching Jeopardy, but that's probably from my hard studying school years.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:57 PM
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7. Yes and I have worried about it too.
I have a problem with books, I love to read. I constantly read and it is the one thing I really splurge on, I like to own my books. Partly because I don't remember them once I have been away from them a few months. Some I read over because I like them but some because I don't remember them and often they do not seem remotely familiar even knowing I read them before. Part of the problem I think was reading while caring for children, you know, the constant interruptions. I have always wondered if it had anything to do with my narcolepsy. Me too, redqueen, it is very strange.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:02 PM
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12. Oh I know the constant interruption thing
I try to save reading for after they're in bed.

It's strange and frustrating... every time there's a thread asking about an artist or movie or book, I'm sitting there thinking so hard... what's that guy's name? what's that movie I saw? Grr!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:12 PM
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17. Still,
with work and kids your mind is pretty well occupied even when they are in bed. Now for me it is partly the age thing I think but since my kids are now gone I am hoping for an improvement. I'll let you know.
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:01 PM
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10. Yes, all of the time
I rented Will Smith's movie "Ali" last night because I thought my son would like to see it, but when I got home with it he said we had already seen it fairly recently. I had no idea. While watching it last night I had vague memories of it, but like I had watched it while drunk once before (not the case though, I had been 100% sober.)

I've thought the memory problems might be damage from high school era pot smoking, but I don't know.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:03 PM
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14. Yeah sometimes I attribute that to a movie sucking ;-)
But no, this problem I've had all my life... so...
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:02 PM
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11. Could be thyroid damage caused by radiation
brain function is regulated by hormones which are in turn regulated by the thyroid (in simple terms)

Thyroid damage from nuke plant releases and weapons tests, etc. can damage the brain.

There is more on this at www.radiation.org

read Dr Sternglass's materials (linked there is a book which has a chapter on brain damage from radiation in the environment).

By the way - mutated bacteria near the leaky Davis Besse nuclear reactor in Ohio are probably causing the "mystery illness" at Lake Erie Island in Ohio near where the cruiseship virus originated (Norwalk virus).

Plants leak legally all the time. If you grew up or live near a nuke facility this might explain your problem.

More research will help you learn how to get better (start with metabolic thyroid testing to see if you have a low body temp -or hypothyroidism)

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:04 PM
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16. Actually I do have thyroid problems
but so do most of the women in my family, and there's no nuke stuff around... but maybe it's the thyroid. Thanks! :hi:
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:28 PM
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26. It depends on your age and travel, etc.
Thyroid damage is pandemic from nuke releases.

If you EVER swam or travelled or boated near a nuke plant or miliary facility you could have been exposed.

Even Chernobyl dropped radio-iodine on New England too in the rain in the 1980's

Usual suspects are close-by plants

You might weant to look into natural throid instead of synthetic as Synthroid has some problems if you take that.

Armour thyroid is better according to lots of natural-practicing MD's

My family has it too - but we used to swim near the effluent pipes. It is making me kinda dyslexic on the keyboard.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:34 PM
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33. Wow... thanks
I am taking synthetic, actually. Will schedule a check up now.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:29 PM
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27. I have thyroid problems myself
A major symptom of thyroid disease is cognitive dysfunction. Make sure your doctor does all three of the tests in the thyroid panel. By doing all the tests, that's how my doctor found out that I wasn't converting the T4 that the thyroid makes into T3, the substance that your body actually uses. He switched my meds to Armour thyroid that has T4 & T3 in it and all is right again. Well, right with my thyroid anyway....}(
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:32 PM
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29. Yupp!!! It is a pandemic. EVERYBODY has some degree of it, it seems
But the metabolic test can be better than the blood test.

and the dose needs to be right. Usually they keep it pretty low - but more can sdometimes help. Ask the doctor about the armour. I recommend it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:35 PM
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34. Thanks for the tip! n/t
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:02 PM
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13. I think it's the crack.
I mean, you do smoke a lot of crack.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:13 PM
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18. Hey mista can I get four dollas?
I jus need four dollas f'gas... my mom's sick an I cain't get tuh thuh hospital 'cause I'm outta gas... can I get four dollas?

Please, mista... she's real sick.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:03 PM
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15. I think I do....
But I'm not realy sure. I can't remember....

Bwahahaha!

I crack myself up sometimes!

Ahem...

*shuffles away to sounds of crickets chirping, no one laughing at his humorless soliloquy*
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:14 PM
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19. lol
There, happy now? :)
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:14 PM
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20. Get thee to a doctor!
That doesn't sound normal for a woman as young as you are. I'd get checked out.

One possibility, though -- I know a lot of women have problems with memory during pregnancy. Is this when it came on? (If that's the case, it may be hormonal.)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:17 PM
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21. Nah... I've always been this way.
Glad I'm not the only one... maybe it's some kind of learning disability.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:19 PM
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22. Actually...that could be
ADD, perhaps? It can happen in adults. You may want to get evaluated by someone who's objective (and not just eager to get you on meds).
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:20 PM
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23. Yes.... My theory is that there is just SO MUCH STUFF in my brain...
that I can't possibly keep all the trivial stuff in there. Some books and movies I remember pretty well, while others I can reread or see after a few years and not remember a single thing (except having a vague sense of familiarity with it). I can't recall some people's names who I knew well years ago. Yet, I remember entire scores of operas, computer languages, foreign languages, silly little jingles from commercials when I was child (even though I don't remember many events from my childhood).

For me... it hasn't changed with age (yet). I guess it will only get worse.

What was your name again? :D
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:38 PM
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35. I only remember them well if I watch them a LOT
and I do that with very few movies, understandably.

Work stuff and other things like that that I use every day are safe. Anything that's occasional I have to have notes for.

I hate to even think what I'll be like in 20 years. Yikes!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:44 PM
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41. Well, I'm a little bit older than you...
but it hasn't gotten worse yet. I think I am just distracted during movies and while reading... and my mind is constantly going off on other things. Some things I need to concentrate on fully, and those are the things I remember well. Who knows? :shrug:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:46 PM
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45. memory storage is pretty complicated
I'm not a cog psych expert by any means, but your brain has different types of memory storage and sometimes if there is a lot going on, you might not be able to acess certain things; also the brain makes allowances to some extent for what information you might need versus what you don't or haven't used for a while.

It is more worrisome when you don't have the awareness that you have forgotten something, if that makes any sense, or start to forget where you are, or actions that you should have remembered. There are memory tests that doctors or other professionals can do to clartify if there is a problem. Stress can also exacerbate these things.

I always have so many irons in the fire, that I go in the basement or in the kitchen and forget why I went. Plus there is probably a mommy component, don't know if you are a mommy or not.
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chimpy the poopthrower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:24 PM
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24. You already posted this an hour ago.
Nah! I'm just messin' with ya! :evilgrin:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:25 PM
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25. Good one!
:thumbsup:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:38 PM
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36. heh
Why you little....
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:34 PM
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31. I have selective memory...
like some other people have mentioned here...

Some things I remember in precise detail (ex: I could easily navigate around any city I have previously visited or remember the lyrics from an obscure song from my teen years)...

It's the most simple things I have trouble remembering...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:41 PM
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38. LOL
My dad calls 'selective memory' when I forget I owe him money, but remember to tell him what I want for my birthday. ;)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:34 PM
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32. Does this mean I can tell you to shut the hell up and that your a big jerk
and you'll forget about it in a few minutes and be nice to me again?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:41 PM
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39. lol... no
But a few months, yes!
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:22 PM
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44. All. The. Time.
I have the worst memory ever. I forget names at the drop of a hat, and I have to constantly write things down so that I remember what it is I'm supposed to do on any particular day. And I still fucking forget.

In the words of Howard Dean, AAAAAARRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:00 PM
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46. I have an extremely similar problem
I have a terrible memory for faces, people's names, proper nouns, dates, and I also have a problem remembering the details of a plot. And like you, I've developed a work-around.

Maybe to compensate for my poor memorization skills, I am good at understanding processes, such as how something works. I'm good with cause and effect, and sequencing (ie keeping things in the correct order). Also, I'm fortunate to work in a field (systems development) that doesn't require me to remember things I can't memorize. However, there is one exception, proper nouns - and acronyms, which abound in my field. Since many of those acronyms stand for something that, at least partially, reveals what it does, it's not as hard to remember them.

Overall, I consider it a part of who I am. Different people have differing strengths and weaknesses. You and I are just not very good at the memorization thing, but we make up for it with other assets.
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