Starfleet regulations? That's outrageous!!

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There shall be no peace............so long as Kirk lives!


Just started watching Star Trek IV afer not seeing it for almost three months.

WOO HOO!!

[TheDebbieDee]

1. "I liked him better before he died!" ..................

said by Dr. McCoy about Mr. Spock in Star Trek V

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4. I love that line!

[jeff30997]

2. Good Star Trek movie.

The last time I saw it was at least 10 years ago.

[baldguy]

3. Even numbered Trek movies don't suck.

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5. "He's not exactly working on all thrusters"

and "You really have gone where no man has gone before!"

[mark11727]

6. One damn minute, Captain.....!

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7. I think he took a little too much LDS

[mark11727]

10. Do you like "Italian?"

"No"
"Yes"
"No"
"Yes"
"No"
"Yes"
"No"
"Yes"
"I love Italian...and so do you."

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14. Yes

I love that exchange! They adlibbed that, too.

[Archae]

8. When that Klingon ship de-cloaked in front of the whalers.

I nearly died laughing.

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9. I love that scene! I bet they all crapped their pants

I'm pretty sure I would if a Bird of Prey just materialized over me. And especially for those guys, who don't even know what one is. Scary!

But the anti-whaler part of me loved seeing those damned whalers get their comeuppance.

Kirk should have taken the time to beam the crew on board the ship just to punch each one in the face, really hard, then beam 'em back down to the whaler.

[mark11727]

11. Captain...! There be WHALES HERE...!

The beasties seem happy to see you, miss....

[Westegg]

12. Okay, I need to vent to an expert about something that always bugged me...

...in "Trek IV." It's when Kirk and Spock are discussing 20th Century literature and Kirk makes some comment about Jackie Suzanne (author of "The Valley of the Dolls") and Harold Robbins (another writer of tawdry '70s best-sellers) and Spock says something like, "You mean The Giants." As if, a few centuries hence, these trashy writers have somehow been elevated to to the level of literary greats. IT MAKES NO SENSE! It would never happen, and to me it's a cheap, throw-away gag that really falls flat.

While I have you, what's up with Scotty taking over that primitive 1980s Mac computer and playing the keyboard like Van Cliburn so that he can, in ten seconds, produce the formula for transparent aluminum? No pre-Internet Mac of that vintage could respond that quickly. What is he, friggin' Merlin? Another bummer for me in what is otherwise an enjoyable movie. Goddamn 20th century screenwriters!

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13. Spock was being sarcastic

with his "Ah, the giants" remark. In fact, now that I think about it, I don't think there is a single positive reference to anything about the 20th century. Most of it rightly so.

The computer thing really bugs me, too - there's no way he could have done that. He would have needed to spend a couple days (if not months) to write the software he would have needed, I'm sure. And I seriously doubt that in the 23rd century they're still using C or Pascal or whatever might have been on that Mac, assuming it had any code writing software to begin with.

It does ruin the moment for me, too.

But I do love Scotty's "Oh, a keyboard - how quaint" remark. :-)

[Westegg]

15. Yeah, Scotty's great. Also when he tries to talk into the mouse?...

"Computer?" But I humbly disagree with your take on Spock being sarcastic. (Kirk makes a literary reference and Spock decides to respond with sarcasm? Come on...) No, I firmly believe this was done straight, and it was just a bad---very bad--- joke. Maybe it was ad-libbed, but of the writers credited with the script, Nicholas Meyer, at the very least, should have put his foot down on this one. If that joke is going to stand, it needs further explanation---somehow the cheap, glitzy, badly written best- sellers of the '70s ultimately contributed to world peace? I dunno. Maybe that scene was left on the cutting-room floor. Still, a first-rate film, although my other gripe is with the overly earnest and pained performance by Catherine Hicks, whom I simply have never liked.

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16. No, that way doesn't make sense

If you leave it at Spock being sarcastic - that is, insulting of Suzanne and Robbins - then the moment works very well. Especially since it is brought up in the context of Spock noticing the change in language - the colorful metaphors. And Kirk says, "It's the way they spoke back then. No one pays attention unless you swear every other word. It's in all the literature" and Spock asks, "Such as?" and Kirk says "The neglected works of Jackeline Suzanne and Harold Robbins" and Spock says, "Ah - the giants."

Because Spock, of course, WOULD know the giants, and the giants he knows DIDN'T use the colorful metaphors. Hence Spock's intitial observation.

And in the commentary or one of the interviews, Nimoy talks about his sadness at all the swearing and bad language that people use.

So the writers are not saying that Suzanne and Robbins contributed to world peace - they're saying that those writers swore a lot, and that only Kirk, with his fascination of the 20th century, would know them.

But, I'm not Nimoy or Meyer, so I can't know that for sure. But that's how I take it.

[Krasnaya Lastochka]

17. "Vhere are da nuklear wessels?"

is the most hilarious line in the whole film...well, one of them. You gotta love Chekov. Regarding Scotty playing the computer keyboard...I always thought that was a little weird myself. And to the person who said 'playing the computer keyboard like he's Van Cliburn'...I disagree. Mikhail Pletnev for sure.