what are some other good file sharers w/o spyware other than winmx

[JohnKleeb]

I downloaded winmx tonight and its good but I need something else to cover the stuff I cant get in winmx, thanks I am just trying to redownload a lot of my music files that I lost when I had a computer problem.

[Systematic Chaos]

1. Someone recommended soulseek a while back

It's VERY good. You can very easily download entire albums from people just by finding a single track. Very good interface.

[JohnKleeb]

2. awesome I'll consider that

doesnt have spyware does it?

[sidestreamer]

3. If you have the patience to learn mIRC, try EfNet or Undernet

http://www.mirc.com

In efnet, channel #mp3addicts
Undernet, #mp3passion

If that isn't your thing, there's Kazza Lite... but it's a CPU hog.

[JohnKleeb]

4. ok I think I'll get Kazaa Lite

[Warren DeMontague]

5. Like Taper-Friendly Bands and Live Music?

http://furthurnet.org

Legal P2P. Cool community, too.

[JohnKleeb]

6. I really dont have any prefs

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Well, furthurnet has tons of bands that allow taping

lots of live music there. Not just jambands.

[JohnKleeb]

13. ahh aight

This is gonna take a while but I really dont mind.

[REP]

7. Overnet is Now Bundled With eDonkey

I've never had a problem with Overnet. There's a pay and a free version of eDonkey for Window$ and Mac at http://www.overnet.com/downloads.php

[JohnKleeb]

8. ok I'll check it out thanks

[JohnKleeb]

9. anyone know if the latest version of lime wire has any spyware?

[Nomad559]

10. Limewire Pro v4.0.8

Limewire Pro has no spyware. :)

Limewire Pro v4.0.8

[JohnKleeb]

11. awesome thats what I just downloaded and its working like a charm

[ET Awful]

14. Thanks! My Kazaa Lite has been really messed uplately

and this replaced it perfectly :)

[JohnKleeb]

15. this is even better I think!

[ET Awful]

16. It's a hell of a lot faster, that's for sure :) n/t

[JohnKleeb]

17. Yeah Ive been redownloading my music collection

hence why I have yet to sleep heh. I'll probably go to bed this afternoon.

[ET Awful]

19. For some reason my old Kazaa-Lite just stopped connecting to the server

It said connecting and would stay like that forever.

Switched to this, it connects and the downloads FLY.

I'm psyched :)

[JohnKleeb]

21. I am already near half way done!

Yeah the downloads by and large are downloading for me at 40KB a sec.

[dumpster_baby]

18. use the OLD KazaaLite--but DO NOT share files!

You must not share files nowadays. The MPAA/RIAA/BSA WILL nail, with a cease & desist letter at the very least. Unless you are with certain isps who will not divulge customer names.

Look, here is what you do: get the old Kazaalite; not the new one--it has spyware and is not free. kazaalite 2.4.1 is what I use.

Then set you Participation Level (PL_ to 1000.

Whenever you are close to completing a download, either turn off sharing, or stop sharing the file as soon as it is downloaded.

Americans must leech off of users who live in less repressive countries.

[ET Awful]

20. I used to use Kazaa Lite, but it stopped connecting to servers . . .

for some reason, I have no idea why.

So, I switched to Limewire (still with nothing shared), and it works like magic. Much faster than Kazaa too.

[JohnKleeb]

22. I used lime wire after I used kazaa too

found a lot of obscure stuff too then unfortunely I had the lime wire with the adaware so I had to reinstall but I am finding my old files again very easily along with some new stuff. Winmx and this new limewire combined are a one-two punch I am lovin, I cant wait to get my iPod and speakers fixed, then everything will finally be back to normal :).

[LTR]

23. That's leeching

And if you participate on P2P programs, you should be prepared to share. Otherwise, there's no community, is there?

If you're worried about security, go here and get PeerGuardian:

http://www.methlabs.org/methlabs.htm

Blocks a large database of bad IPs that spy on computer users. If you're the paranoid sort, you can use it on a regular basis. The database is constantly updated.

If you like a more reliable, secure way of file sharing, try BitTorrent. Works similar to the late, lamented Audio Galaxy, in that it is web-based. You can find out more here:

http://www.zeropaid.com/torrent/

Personally, I love it. Kazaa Lite has become almost unuseable, given it's unreliability, bad quality files, and spotty connectivity. Thanks to the DUers who turned me on to BT.

[JohnKleeb]

24. Ive had files Ive got from kazaa when I play em on the ipod

I get a loud beep. its annoying, limewire has more variety too I believe.

[dumpster_baby]

25. Oh, buddy, are you ever wrong! BT is the LEAST safe p2p system

Very good discussion on this at the geek blog Slashdot.org the other day. Here are some pertinent posts excerpted:

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/26/1214214&tid=123

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Re:How did they know your IP; you were d/l'ing! (Score:1)
by Jungle guy (567570) < brunolmailbox-m ... yahoo...com...br> on Thursday August 26, @01:17PM (#10080102)
(Last Journal: Friday June 18, @07:11PM)
It is REALLY easy. Using Bit Tornado , an improved version of the original Bit Torrent client, you only have to click on "Advanced" and get a list of EVERYONE that is connected to a particular torrent.



Re:Suing over Bit Torrent... (Score:1)
by EMIce (30092) on Thursday August 26, @03:30PM (#10081467)
(http://www.golden-dumpling.org/)
I also thought bittorrent was safe, until I received a letter from my ISP, Optimum Online. Paramount wanted them to warn me. Subsequently I installed an IP blocker (Blocklist Manager + Protowall) and I thought I'd be safe till I saw your posting.

So I got to thinking, this download information that the tracker gives, is it necessary? Would there be a way to seed that list with random cable modem ip addresses and torrents, without screwing up the bittorrent network too much? Then the people using IP blockers couldn't be distinguised from some grandpa who randomly ended up on the list.



Re:Suing over Bit Torrent... (Score:1)
by Kethinov (636034) on Thursday August 26, @04:30PM (#10082095)
(http://eric.halo43.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday July 03, @04:36AM)
Bit Torrent IS NOT SAFE.

Take this story.

My ISP operates behind a router. All people who use the ISP do not have a public IP. A few months ago, my ISP got a call from the RIAA about their IP sharing "large amounts of music" using bit torrent. My ISP did a bandwidth usage test on all their private interal IPs to find out who was uploading the most data w/bit torrent.

Now I'm not entirely innocent, but at the time I was seeding Knoppix 3.4 and I was uploading the most data. My Windows machine was off; my Linux machine was out of commission. All I had online was my iBook and it didn't have any music on it whatsoever, much less libraries of thousands of pirated songs. All I was doing was seeding Knoppix.

Despite this, my ISP accused me of illegal usage of bit torrent and my service was cut. I would have been sued if I had not proven that my activity was 100% legal. My service was later restored.



BitTorrent download means "RUNNING A SERVER" (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 26, @11:31AM (#10078650)
Using BitTorrent means sharing, this is the MPAA interpretation. Every BitTorrent downloader is also running a server, BECAUSE, YOU OFFER FRAGMENTS OF FOR UPLOADING.

For this reason MPAA considers that BitTorrent downloading is equivalent to running a server. They do not send cease and desist letters to people downloading files, only to people running servers, INCLUDING BITTORRENT USERS.

Downloading with BitTorrent was safe for about one year, until October 2003. Starting November 2003 companies hired by MPAA scan the Internet regularly for illegal files shared via BitTorrent. If you are caught downloading even A SINGLE ILLEGAL FILE with BitTorrent, you will receive a cease and desist letter; in case your ISP cooperates, you'll have your internet connection shut down. If you are caught a few times, you end up being sued.
Conclusion: STAY AWAY FROM BITTORRENT, use download only methods.




bittorrent (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 26, @07:43PM (#10083601)
Someone said that bittorrent isn't being targeted by the riaa and the movie industry. I'd like to put that notion to rest. There's even a company actively monitoring bittorrents of illegal downloads and contacting the isps. If you're using bt and thinking you're safe, you're wrong.



No, BitTorrent has been worse for me. This is completely true.

I've used FastTrack/Gnutella/OpenFT for a while now and never had a problem there. I used BitTorrent to download an episode of Star Trek Enterprise, and got a letter from my ISP forwarded from Paramount stating that I was liable for infringement. Ultimately nothing came of it, but they were obviously able to get my IP quite easily.



Re:Suing over Bit Torrent... (Score:2, Insightful)
by kryptkpr (180196) on Thursday August 26, @10:26AM (#10077775)
(http://slashdot.org/)
I'm going to debunk this once and for all..

Disclaimer: IAABCA (I _AM_ A BitTorrent Client Author)

It is -trivially- easy for the *AA to get
a) your IP
b) what files you're downloading
c) how much you've downloaded
d) how much you've uploaded

And they can do all this without ever connecting to your computer ... IP blockers are -USELESS- in this case, the Azerus people are wasting their time creating a false sense of security for their users.

All the above information is gained from the tracker level. Many even have a nice web-based interface to this information. (See, for example, here , login may be required)

If you're in a country where P2P is illegal (I'm in Canada, all my development and downloading goes on here, and so far the consumer is winning the war here) then don't download illegal material with BT, they're watching, and there's nothing you can do.

Regarding the guy who said "just don't upload and they can't do anything".. BT works on tit-for-tat. You send a block, you get (usually) 3 back. Sometimes a client will take pity on you, and send you a free block (to test how fast it can send to you, and if you will send back or not). In other words.. no uploading == very, very slow downloading, if any at all, which negates the purpose of BT.

BitTorrent is NOT a protocl for spreading w4r3z. It is for spreading large legitimate files in a situation where the author doesn't have access to the resources to spread the files himself.
DJ kRYPT's Free Trance/Techno MP3s!
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Re:Suing over Bit Torrent... (Score:1)
by EMIce (30092) on Thursday August 26, @03:30PM (#10081467)
(http://www.golden-dumpling.org/)
I also thought bittorrent was safe, until I received a letter from my ISP, Optimum Online. Paramount wanted them to warn me. Subsequently I installed an IP blocker (Blocklist Manager + Protowall) and I thought I'd be safe till I saw your posting.

So I got to thinking, this download information that the tracker gives, is it necessary? Would there be a way to seed that list with random cable modem ip addresses and torrents, without screwing up the bittorrent network too much? Then the people using IP blockers couldn't be distinguised from some grandpa who randomly ended up on the list.
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Re:Suing over Bit Torrent... (Score:1)
by kryptkpr (180196) on Thursday August 26, @04:06PM (#10081883)
(http://slashdot.org/)
So I got to thinking, this download information that the tracker gives, is it necessary?

No, it's not necessary for the tracker to report this information publically. The stock (official) tracker does NOT do this.

Would there be a way to seed that list with random cable modem ip addresses and torrents, without screwing up the bittorrent network too much?

This would greatly decrease the effectiveness of torrents.. the RIAA are a peer like any other peer. If you hurt their ability to gather IPs, you also hurt everyone else's.
DJ kRYPT's Free Trance/Techno MP3s!
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Re:Suing over Bit Torrent... (Score:1)
by Kethinov (636034) on Thursday August 26, @04:30PM (#10082095)
(http://eric.halo43.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday July 03, @04:36AM)
Bit Torrent IS NOT SAFE.

Take this story.

My ISP operates behind a router. All people who use the ISP do not have a public IP. A few months ago, my ISP got a call from the RIAA about their IP sharing "large amounts of music" using bit torrent. My ISP did a bandwidth usage test on all their private interal IPs to find out who was uploading the most data w/bit torrent.

Now I'm not entirely innocent, but at the time I was seeding Knoppix 3.4 and I was uploading the most data. My Windows machine was off; my Linux machine was out of commission. All I had online was my iBook and it didn't have any music on it whatsoever, much less libraries of thousands of pirated songs. All I was doing was seeding Knoppix.

Despite this, my ISP accused me of illegal usage of bit torrent and my service was cut. I would have been sued if I had not proven that my activity was 100% legal. My service was later restored.


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[LTR]

26. Thanks for the heads up

Would PeerGuardian work to prevent spying?