Need info: One nation under God and E.Pluribus Unim

[Chilly_Willy]

I read from someone this below. I just want to try to get an idea about the history of when In God we Trust was put on coins and One Nation Under God was inserted into the Plege.

Also, when did the US motto change from E.Plurbus unim... to In God we trust or is this false information?

Oh yea, and what kind of beliefs do the Brights hold?

Thanks everybody! ~ Chilly

"Apparently several atheists are getting together to make a concerted effort to remove "In God we Trust" from the United States Money and to remove "One Nation Under God" from the American Pledge...

Write to your Senators and Representatives to help put a stop to this. We are ONE NATION UNDER GOD... Yes, seperation of Church and State is a good idea, but we are not ONE NATION OF ATHIESTS.

The group of atheists involved in this call themselves the Brights..."

[matcom]

1. 1954 under McCarthyism

do a Google

[trotsky]

2. E Pluribus Unum

has always been our official national motto.

"In God We Trust" was off & on our money throughout the nation's history until the 1950s Red Scare when people felt the need to stand up to the godless commies. Thus it was legislated to appear on all currency, and "under God" was added to the pledge.

[LosinIt]

3. a simple google search will give you the info you want

http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html

[Chilly_Willy]

4. Thanks!!!

Ok thank you!

[newscaster]

5. E Pluribus Unum means

"Out of Many, One."

In other words, a country of people with varied backgrounds became one nation with unified goals, wishes and desires. Only the quotes are exact wording.

[Davis_X_Machina]

6. E Pluribus Unum was the motto....

..since the birth of the Republic, when the Great Seal of the United States was first designed by the secretary of the Continental Congress. The seal that contained it was rejected, regularly, until 1782. It's a reworking of Vergil's Moretum 103: color est e pluribus unus

E Pluribus Unum remained the motto till 1956, when Eisenhower signed a resolution changing it to 'In God We Trust'. The Secretary of the Treasury was allowed to add "In God We Trust" to the currency in the 1870's but not required to do so until 1955.

Around the same time "Under God" was added to the Pledge, in 1954

All three acts -- all taken within three years -- were the result of organized PR campaigns by pressure groups, and are relics of the Cold War struggle with Atheistic Communism.

[politicat]

7. PM me and I'll gladly give you information...

But do me a favor and don't spin us as nuts. It's not several atheists - it's about 60,000 of us, working from around the country. That's not a handful.

We wish to return the national motto to E Pluribus Unum, which is what the Founders wanted it to be, from the Cold War Travesty instituted in 1954 at the urging of the Knights of Columbus (a very partisan religious organization).

Out of many, one" is a clear reference to the thirteen colonies united into one nation – symbolized by the shield on the eagle's breast. As explained in the official description of the Great Seal, the thirteen vertical stripes "represent the several states all joined in one solid compact entire, supporting a Chief, which unites the whole & represents Congress. The Motto alludes to this union."

The motto was changed in 1954. This is a recent thing, this is not a long standing tradition, we're not trampling thousands of lives and blah, blah, blah....

We don't want a nation "under atheists" as the facile auteur above states - we want a nation where religion is a private sphere activity, where no one is intimidated by any sort of religious expression or bullied into keeping their own beliefs quiet. (As it happens, people can and have been fired for being atheist. It's as bad as being gay.) We don't care what you believe, but we do care what the government promotes. Government, as far as we are concerned, must be neutral towards all religions. (We'd be just as annoyed if the motto was one nation under allah, zeus, or the Mater Magna.)

The Bright Movement is an umbrella oranization for all of those with a naturalistic world view. Our basic tenets are " A bright is a person who has a naturalistic worldview. A bright's worldview is free of supernatural and mystical elements. The ethics and actions of a bright are based on a naturalistic worldview."

http://the-brights.net/here_we_stand.htm - a link to our principles.

The fact is, the most moral and ethical people I know are atheist or Brights.

I'll be happy to help you if you need more information, but I will not help hang my own.

Politicat

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

8. Firing people for being atheists

That IMHO falls squarely under anti-discrimination laws, right? Even firing people for being Democrats would be less clean-cut than this.

[politicat]

9. it's more of ... looking for other reasons to fire someone

so it's really unclear what the motivation is... but behaviors that are fine in a fundie or a republican are verboten in an atheist...

I have a friend locally who was fired (from a security job, where reading was okay) for reading Atheism and Theism when another employee complained that her book damaged him (no, she didn't throw it at him) because he was Christian. He never touched it, but apparently atheist books burn christians at 20 paces. :silly: As it happened, she never complained about his bible or his prosletyzing until after she was dismissed.

She's in litigation with them, but it does no good for them to be acting illegally when she's running out of unemployment compensation.

Pcat