Femi-Nazi (Love the Word or Hate It) ???

[La Lioness Priyanka]

Poll question: Femi-Nazi (Love the Word or Hate It) ???

personally when conservative websites or individuals call me a feminazi i love it...so what do YOU think about it?

[mark414]

1. other

love it cause i think it's hilarious when conservative men feel so threatened by a strong woman that they have to call them a feminazi in some weak attempt to discredit them, but hate it in the sense that it has spread and a lot of "ordinary" americans have it in their vocabulary and it's just another one of those soundbite words the right invented to try to make all us lefties look like crazy people

[La Lioness Priyanka]

3. thats a great way to explain it

and i completely agree with you

[VelmaD]

2. I think it says something about the person using it

I once had Karl Rove call me a "fundamentalist Shi'ite feminist" and my feelings about that insult and "feminazi" are the same. A lot of it is projection. The person saying it wants to harken back to a time when men had absolute power over women. If they could they would use force to hold us in our place. And since force is the ONLY thing they know...they assume that women feel the same way and if they let us have any power at all we'll use it to hurt them. So they equate us with one of the most oppressive and violent regimes in history.

[mark414]

4. congrats!

on getting karl rove mad enough to spout that shit at you!

if we keep this up maybe he'll have a heart attack soon!

[VelmaD]

6. It was the proudest moment of my life...

I had him as a Campign Politics prof in grad school. I loathed him. He loathed me. It was hilarious. I told him once he had the ethical sensitivity of a walnut. (We were arguing about push-polling at the time.) He called me a "fundamentalist Shi'ite feminist" the day we had Ralph Reed as a guest speaker. Wheeeeeeee. :)

[mark414]

7. good god i'm sorry

that you had to put up with that man for (i assume) an entire semester???

how did you ever survive???

[VelmaD]

9. I had a very good friend in the class...

who sat next to me and kept me from going over the table and ripping Karl's lungs out through his ear. :)

I actually got an A in the class by scrupulously completing assignments and never missing a session. Another friend put it to me like this..."you paid for that class, you owe it to him to torment him with your presence EVERY day". :)

Plus I like to fight and who knows when I'll ever have the chance to have such easy access to such a deserving target again.

[LisaLynne]

10. VelmaD

You're my new hero.

[VelmaD]

12. Thanks

:)

But I figure anyone on DU would have done pretty much the same thing after having to deal with that scum-sucking bottom-feeder. Karl just brings out the best in people. ;)

[SOteric]

15. I told you, you're a 'tall' person

This just proves I'm right. :7 :hi:

[VelmaD]

16. Aww...*blushes*

You don't know how much that means coming from you. :)

And it's easy to look like the "better" person when the competition is Karl Rove. ;)

[tigereye]

28. Wow, Velma I am impressed

truly giving him grief in person. Cool. Wow. And in an academic setting no less! :yourock:

[SarahB]

5. That's it.

A misogynistic term to marginalize the thoughts, concerns, and ideas of women.

[asthmaticeog]

8. It was once a specific, if snarky, descriptor

for those rather extremist late '80s-early '90s Dworkinite-and-beyond type "feminists" (really more like female-separatists than feminists), but when its usage spread via Rush Limbaugh and it became a word anti-feminists used to describe all feminists, it became over-broad, worthless and, pretty inarguably, hateful.

[TXlib]

20. That's a pretty good way of putting it.

There certainly are some fringe elements who deserve such a label. But it has been so overused to include women who merely believe that a woman is not a doormat, that it's lost all meaning and impact.

[SarahB]

33. I'd probably agree with this in theory.

There were (probably still are) fringe elements within feminism that have the belief that all heterosexual sex is rape. That view is a bit extreme (especially for those of us feminists who really, really like men) and they probably deserve the label, but when it's used for any and all feminists, most of which do not hold this viewpoint, it's not exactly right. It looks like the word was hijacked by the right and adopted as their own. When that happens to a word, it pretty much makes my stomach turn to hear it.

[LynneSin]

11. I don't mind the concept but I hate anything with the word "Nazi" in it

I mean, we feminists are proud of our cause but we're not about to go out and kill 10million people just to promote it

:crazy:

[liontamer]

13. it's weird

simply putting the word nazi in there confirms some people's fears that feminists are crazy castrating psychos who won't be happy till they've killed or enslaved all men. But the very extremism of the statement is so easy to discredit for any rational person. Alas rationality has so little to do with humanity. It's more a skill we have that we occasionally use than any kind of defining characteristic.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. you are SO smart!

[Beer Snob-50]

23. but isn't that the purpose of the feminist movement?

that is what rush and dr laura have taught me.

[lpbk2713]

17. Actually, I'm ambivalent.

I don't like people being stigmatized with the use of the word. But, when I hear someone use it I always think it points directly at the pimple-butt moran that coined the phrase. And I don't think Limpuke will ever shake his association with the use of that word.

[liontamer]

30. but I don't think many people do think of limbaugh

I didn't know he coined the phrase till a few weeks ago when someone mentioned it on DU. I had just heard the expression from random people. and these weren't all fat white males. Plenty of young women(although I'll admit they're all white, but that's probably irrelevant) use it too. "I'm not some femi-nazi, I like men! giggle"

[WindRavenX]

18. I fucking hate it

It implies that I hate men, which could be nothing further from the truth. I love men, even if they are massive douches occasionally :P

[TXlib]

19. I love it

It conjures up images of strong women in tight black leather outfits administering unspeakable punishments to me...

*drool* :evilgrin:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. or opinionated women

who would decline to touch you if you had the balls to call them a femi-nazi to their face

[TXlib]

24. Huh?

Your reply seems a non-sequitur. Or maybe I'm just dense.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. either way it was not meant to insult

[Nadienne]

21. Hate-filled generalizations like this

cause people to not get taken seriously. The "Big Strong Man" will call a woman a femi-nazi; the ass-kissers will all snicker. It allows them to avoid real discussions. It makes my blood boil. :nuke:

[arwalden]

26. It's Useful To Help Spot Zealot Right-Wing Rush Limbaugh Sheep-Fans

You know... the ones who find it easier to parrot Limbaugh's catch-phrase of the season instead of actually THINKING for themselves.

[VOX]

27. If Rush didn't coin this word, he certainly "popularized" it...

And that alone makes it unacceptable.

I don't care for the term, regardless.

[BlueJazz]

29. I hate it !

The next time a Repug calls you that say:

"Yeah..that's OK..If you look up Republican in the dictionary there's a picture of an Asshole".

[puerco-bellies]

31. Love it, reminds me of a women I know

And makes me kinda hot...

[Taverner]

32. Although Velma's right

Anyone who's threatened by feminists is threatened by women in general, and is a closed minded fuckwad.

[jukes]

34. i think it's silly

as most wing-nuts' expressions are. they have no poetry in their souls.

do i get to be a feminazi, too? or is the property of non-male feminists only?




Hi!, lionesspriyanka! :hi: how're your new kitties?

[Nikia]

35. I jokingly call myself that sometimes

Just like some rural working class people refer to themselves as "rednecks" or how some people call themselves a number of ethnic slurs. I think that it is a ridiculous enough term that I am comfortable with saying that. I would never call someone else that and I would be upset if someone other than my husband or a close friend just called me that.