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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:29 AM
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Anyone here read Herbert Marcuse?
I'm reading "One Dimensional Man" for my Art of the 60s class.

It's blowing my mind, man....
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:31 AM
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1. I just got that recommendation from someone who read my Chomsky page
I googled him and am about to read some pages about him right now!

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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:32 AM
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2. It's amazing 1D Man was written in 1964
Because it seems totally up to date with what is happening right now.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:35 AM
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4. If you'd like another one of those flashes
Go read Jung's "The Undiscovered Self"
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:34 AM
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3. Be careful, be very careful
Here's why

http://www.wc.pdx.edu/abbiehoffman/

Hoffman was born in 1936 and lived in Worcester, Massachusetts until 1955. Born the child of a Russian immigrant, Hoffman grew up as a first generation middle class Jew. He developed his rebellious attitude as an adolescent. In 1955, Hoffman attended Brandeis University. At Brandeis, Hoffman was influenced by some of the most exciting thinkers of the period, such as Marxist philosopher Herbert Marcuse, and psychologist Abraham Maslow, both of whom were on the Brandeis faculty.
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:36 AM
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6. I don't get you point n/t
Abbie was an OK guy
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:38 AM
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7. What, you don't recognize humor when you see it?
I greatly admire Hoffman. Wish he was still alive.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:39 AM
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8. I liked him enuf to Steal His Book :)
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:36 AM
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5. Now where did I put my Postmodernism Generator?
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:43 AM
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9. here is a comprehensive webpage
http://cartoon.iguw.tuwien.ac.at/christian/marcuse_eng.html

His writing is pretty theoretical and a bit dry, and his ideas are unlike Chomsky in that there are not so much immediately verifiable evidence of his being correct. His ideas about technology seem a but wrong to me. I am a devout technophile, and I think it can help us a lot.

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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:46 AM
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10. I haven't finished the book, but
it seems to me that Marcuse isn't against technology. He's only against how technology is being used to enslave humans, rather than free them. That's how I read it, anyway.
:shrug:
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:56 AM
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11. Came across his name when I was googling "newspeak" one day...
...a few months ago, thinking there had to be a name for what this admin was doing. (Besides lying.) I remember back in the 80s, when Reagan named a missile "The Peacekeeper", critics calling that Orwellian. So you know how Google leads you from one place to another, and I came across a review of One-D Man.

Wow! I copied and pasted some of it:

"In One-Dimensional Man, Marcuse uses the term "Orwellian language" to describe the nature and functions of dominant discourses within contemporary post-industrial societies... In Marcuse's analysis, public and corporate officials, and the mass media, utilize a "one-dimensional language" to smooth over social contradictions and problems, and thus restrict thought and public discourse to the terms and interests of the established society.

Marcuse, on the other hand, constantly advocated the "Great Refusal" as the proper political response to any form of irrational repression, and indeed this seems to be at least the starting point for political activism in the contemporary era: refusal of all forms of oppression and domination, relentless criticism of all of all policies that impact negatively on working people and progressive social programs..."

I was so relieved that someone had already identified the phenomenon. Cool that they're teaching him!
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