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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 02:03 PM
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My new readings
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Soleyethn
PT 109 by Robert Donovan
now tell me, am I a nerd or what :D.
My plan is to read Denisovich and then restart Gulag while reading PT 109 at the same time.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 02:15 PM
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1. I don't think it's nerdy.
Solitzehin(sp) is an author I've never tackled. You can tell since I don't know how to spell his name.

I read two books at a time, sometimes. Usually fiction/nonfiction.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 02:19 PM
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2. Yeah Ive been interested by Russia's history for awhile
I got PT109 because I read Tour of Duty about Kerry and loved it, so I Thought PT 109 must be great.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:24 PM
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3. best part of "ivan" for me
was when he gave up a meal (thin gruel) to be assured that his line was straight.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:10 PM
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7. I havent started yet, I am gonna read it then Gulag
which is an american author's history of the gulags.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:20 PM
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9. i consider ivan a work of art...
please, post how you feel about it after reading.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:22 PM
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11. I will, gotcha
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:36 PM
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4. We must be nerds together, then. I am reading
a collection of short stories/essays of Solzhenitsyn called "Under the Rubble." I find great satisfaction in reading books that require notes in the margin and a dictionary. Let us know how the reading goes!! :)

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:41 PM
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5. You a nerd, Kleeb
:P
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:10 PM
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6. I take a math class that sophomores take
Some nerd :D.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:20 PM
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8. LOL!!
I guess I would never trust you with my money!!!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:21 PM
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10. I never did want to be an accountant
but really, I am a senior taking Algebra II, not a bad thing but consider that some people actually think I am UVA, Va Tech material, I find it hilarious.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:23 PM
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12. It's only one subject
I'm sure you do quite well in other subjects.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:26 PM
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13. sorta
I did good in bio, and great in active physics which is like physics with little math, now chemistry as you have seen from me is my hated subject, though I failed it last year, I am off to a great start this year and the truth about math is though I hate it, I could be coming out of HS with 4 math credits, and I sucked at foreign language, now english and history and those electives, oh man I kick ass.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:50 PM
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16. How about this: I failed science in college
twice!!!

what a waste of time and money.

But on the third try, I got a B+, I was so proud of myself.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:51 PM
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17. which science was this?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:56 PM
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18. The first time it was Geology
then the second time, I think it was called Natural Science or something like that.

Than finally on the third time, it was like Earth Science so it was pretty easy.

It was just like a 101 science and it was a required class but I am awful in science (as you can tell now).

But I have my degree and since that time, I haven't really had to use any of the science that I learned.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:47 PM
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21. see I suck at math based sciences
I really didnt care what the hell a mole was heh in chemistry and I slept in class, mostly tired, it was at the beginning of the day and my teacher who I actually have now hated me heh, but Ive changed my ways and I think doing good in chem this year is my ultimate fuck you to the teacher who made me feel like crap.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:37 PM
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19. You're a senior and you are reading Solzhenitsyn????
and it's not required? You rock. I was still reading Sidney Sheldon in High School.

P.S. I took Algebra II twice (I thought that's what the "II" stood for - take twice), once as a senior and I turned out okay. Just don't ask my parents to verify that statement as they are Republicans.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:46 PM
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20. yeah two
Nope not required at all, first book we're reading in english is canterbary tales, I've long by intrigued by Russia and its history. I got enough math credits to pass, if I pass this time, I got 4, I wish I had passed chemistry last year so I'd had three, and had done better in foreign language.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:49 PM
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22. That's impressive. I was never good at math and science, but loved
history and english. I read Canterbury tales in high school, but that was a long time ago. Are you planning to go to college and, if so, what will you study? Russian History?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:51 PM
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23. yep history and english my loves
umm I actually plan to major in political science so I can get a jump start to my speechwriting dreams and maybe minor in psych or journalism. Russian history especially the era of Stalin is really intriguing, amazing that man, all the evil shit he did.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:55 PM
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24. Yea to a fellow poli-sci major!!!
Stalin is intriguing albiet evil. We have friends who are originally from Russia and I love talking to them about their time in Soviet Russia. Have you read any of Leon Trotsky's writings? He's another fascinating figure in the history of the Russian Revolution and, in fact, was instrumental in forming the Red Army.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:57 PM
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25. never read Trotsky
I saw a great feature on the history channel called "War of the Century", it was very touching, it was about the war in Russia from June 22, 1941 till the Russians liberated Warsaw about, kinda made me emotional because well I admire the Russians deeply for their sacriface. Irish history, thats another history branch I love to learn about, and it too gets emotional.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:01 PM
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26. Yeah, I caught you in the naked twister post talking about being Irish...
I need to learn more about Irish history as well. I love the Celtic music and really love the Irish Drinking Music (translate: Pogues)

You have enough on your plate right now with your studies and your extra-cirricular reading, but if, down the road, you want some more good reading, give me a yell. Thanks and good luck to you.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:02 PM
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27. I am only part heh
Irish that is, I got a German last name and dont look Irish but I am very passionate about what goes on. Yeah sure thanks, I got a lot of reading to do.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:31 PM
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14. I'm always reading a bunch of different books
Right now I'm reading

The Italian Boy: A Tale of Murder and Body Snatching in 1830's London

The Collected Short Stories of Mark Twain

The Civil War in three volumes by Shelby Foote (a sentimental favorite - I've read it a number of times)

and I just started

The Island at the Center of the World by Russell Shorto - it's about Manhattan when the Dutch owned it.

I've never read Solzhenitsyn - started The Gulag Archipelago once but got sidetracked and didn't return. Read about a third of it and enjoyed it but it was deep.

Maybe I'm a nerd too but I don't much care. I like people who read. I like people who think. That's why I'm a democrat!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:32 PM
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15. My plan on Solezeythn
is to read this, then read Applebaum's Gulag which is a history of the Gulag from Stalin to Gorbichev's closing of them. I've seen Foote's stuff but I read more about WWII than I do the civil war.
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:04 PM
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28. I'm reading Gulag Archipelago right now
250 pages down, only 1,000,000,004 to go!

the commonalities between the SU at that time and what the US is becoming are striking.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:05 PM
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29. and doesnt it have volumes?
The longest book I've ever read was Stephen E. Ambrose's D-Day, one of the best accounts of D-Day I've read though I love Corneilus Ryan's classic The Longest Day.
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:45 PM
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30. 3 volumes - each of containing 600 or so pages
I'll probably break them up and read something else in between.
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