Is it wrong what I asked?Long discussion1

[undergroundpanther]

This is a one on one email "talk" I had with New age "teacher" Mike Sharp. It offers valuable insights,

I had some questions about the things he asserts like "we choose" to come here and choose what happens to us in life here.
I find these assertions simplistic and offensive. But I wanted to know why he sees it this way. So here is our conversation.

My first letter to Mike sharp:
Michael
Hi
I was prompted to write so I did.This letter is a bit long but I had to get it off my chest.I hope you at least enjoy it.


I have tried out alot of "Paths" From Satanism,to Assemblies of God to Buddhism,to Tantra,and ceremonial magic,wicca,and others.I have been a seeker with a capital S.And I have been burnt by gurus,hurt battered lied to etc.I got help and insight too. I was really abused badly as a kid.This abuse has forced me to ask whys about suffering and justice. I have found Consciousness has something like a cancer in it.(I call these things glitter maggots) Cancer(absence of love) consiousness has a will different than it's hosts do(life,love).It's will is to grow strong without checks or sharing ,to dominate what makes it live and control it(because it has no love it smothers).Cancer originates in the consciousness and manifests in materiality (conflict,emerging viruses, nuclear bombs etc)

Light can heal tumors,only if it can get inside the tumor itself.(5th column work) I have talked to racists,bared my soul to them because I know it works and I am beyond caring about repulation or appearances so what if I look craxy..I am. So by offering empathy to assholes of every kind,sometimes they take the light in and hear me sometimes not, If they don't/can't You can implant them with light but sometimes they can't take light no more than we can be sick like them.The light really kills off some beings.Those without a spiritual fire inside die when they are touched with light.No reason to feel guilt over this,They'd destroy and co -opt you if they could.I have seen love and light kill firsthand alot of times.

My father was a very abusive .He almost died of spontaneous combustion when I did magick for him in the residential home I was staying in,The intention was for him to honestly feel what I felt,when he abused me.To have empathy for me.I was not asking for his death.. Later He was diagnosed and died of cancer because that is what he was to life he died crazy and drunk ,a pitiful thing grabbing whatever he could consume to numb himself to avoid facing the return to his source the dark cancer consiousness like himself.He was always bitching about the lightning in my eyes and he was particularly cruel to me. He wanted me away from him because my presence was painful to him because of what he was.

When something is refined there is always some dross.Dross is inherent in our duality.The dross cannot be reclaimed without destroying the gold's purity.This duality we are in is real and part of it is not of spirit,not made by the same god or not infused with enough spirit to animate a body beyond existing.These people are spiritless they get rewards here..Spiritually there are two fighting consciousnesses.One is cancerous one and a healing one. Order and chaos can be both healthy and unhealthy. Words do not describe what I see here well .The sociopath narcissist and the non-sociopath narcissist. Those who see reward/punishment and those who operate outside that whole us -them paradigm.

I operate outside the paradigm of us-them BUT I also realize some things are not of spirit and I waste no time trying to say they are.It's "bad fruit" It will make me sick in my spirit if I merge with it or love it. Love and light will either heal it or kill it if I send it through my spirit.Some beings do not have spirit in them literally they are klippoth and they torture liht beings..There are two consiousnesses here and the tension between them creates energy,but at what cost. Oil creates energy fire does but it also consumes something to burn and it leaves ash pollution..Because we are living and dying at the same time constantly this conflict creates your energy and all but it also creates this dross too.Fire leaves ashes ashes don't burn again.Creation itself destroys. Is The force of love is sucking the light out of the earth to heal itself ,is it failing to do the trick? Or is something blocking it? Something is very wrong here.Did you ever stop to ask WHY why is it this way? The gods blinded us,you can read about it in various "holy texts". Yet we bow down to Deity even when that Deity is us ugly magnified. Why do we have to suffer to ascend? I never chose to be here.I was trapped against my will by a crushing force that crammed me into this body.. I remember it. So I am very skeptical of people claiming we choose to come here because it goes against my experinces.

How do we know it is we that get to ascend? Maybe the klippoth do and we get a jazzy mind show for our efforts? Do we go to the cancerous source or to another one? And if we ascend where are we going to and how can we discern that we are not being lied to about it? A nice picture does not make it so.Existence hurts when it is broken and any sadist knows people who are tortured and still care about staying whole will do anything to stop the shattering.We are fractals of fractals in a hall of mirrors.I admit I don't know what or who I am or what reality is at all.I guess. I am truly unknowing,but I know at the same time.What I call me is a mirage until I die and my pattern breaks up and all the molicules of my body find other things to do..

I have an insight that you might be interested in it's not a really feel good thing but it is something to ask. What if there is no answer to this existence? What if there is no grande purpose at all to suffering? What if creation and the energy it makes to exist drives consciousness insane and shatters it? What if we are the dead who brought death here,'cause we managed to find a way to live again and we invaded this Earth and sickened it? What if we really do not have as much control and connection to 'divine' as we would like to think we do,What if the divine is not love,life or peace? What if the ticket to heaven has already been used up and we missed the train because we are half dead?
What if the unknown is a great mystery and we'll find out what it is when we find out and not a moment sooner? What if humanity is evading this existence and all because it's broken tortured and overcoming it doesn't erase it.For Melina there have been light workers and even in better days existence did not stop hurting...They say the path to knowing to spirit is narrow. I have found it to be just wide enough to fit ONE person. There seems to be a billion trillion paths looking into an abyss of dark and light.The forge of self,god, creation ,perversity..

Below is a dream I had when I was 4 years old.I would appreciate any comments you might make because nobody says anything when they read it.It's the coolest dream I ever had and it is my"path" so to speak.
It is also apsychological rewrite .Alot of people who work with trauma say people who are traumatized seek to rewrite the wrongs done to them so they can heal and 'end the story the right way'.This dream rewrites the trauma I remembered of being forced here against my will.

How I met The Underground Panthers

At night in my dream,a ripping thunderstorm came.
The windows flashed with lightning.The rain was reflected in the flashes,the thunder roared,as rain came in wisping through my window screen smelling of ozone and green freshness..Then it was dark and silent.Then,I woke up(in the dream) it was a sunny morning the colors were so hyper real,golden.. In our backyard a weed sprouted into a small tree.And the tree was rainbow colored,shimmering, like stained glass,it had grapefruit sized crystal clear fruits on it.A winged horned cat the color of the rainbow with flickering lightning in it's fur offered me a fruit off of the tree. I took it.It was a shimmery orb very much like a soap bubble with clear seeds in it's middle and a plant structure holding them like an apple or a pear has in it's center.
I ate it,it was sweet and tasted like an orangey grape.I turned around to see the sun and it swirled it's light from green to red to orange and
blue.On the other side of the sky a silvery moon hung in the high horizon .Lots of animals showed up nearby quite suddenly,
there were even tigers and peacocks.There were lightning bugs, butterflies, birds ,mammals,all sorts of animals had gathered around my backyard close to me.The sky shifted it's clouds,and a huge panther's face emerged and appeared hovering above me. It's eyes were so gentle and soft .The face covered the sky from horizon to horizon and it was the color of the sky.Huge whiskers brushed against the tree tops.The Panther's eyes began to glow.I was lifted like 1 1/ 2 feet off the ground, my hair was swirling up in this electrified wind around me, and a beautiful bolt of lightning flowed from the Panther's eyes and swirled down and struck my chest ,throat and head.


Lightning of every color came out from every pore and orifice of my body.It was color changing looked kinda like a hologram made of many kinds of cats. It didn't hurt me at all .I looked down and below and I saw another panther.It was covering the Earth for as far as I could see.And it was the Earth and the color of the Earth..Both felines "held" me in a free moving kind of balance above the ground suspended on a stream of lightning.almost like a bead on a string.I could float/walk around. The lightning went through the earth,through my body into the Earth panther’s eyes through the World into space stretching on forever,the sky bolts went through me into the eyes of the sky panther and up forever. I saw the sun it was flashing and I greeted it .I held aloft my hands and it came down to me,I was throwing it and catching it like a balloon .Then I sent it back to the sky. I did this with the moon too and as I spun it back into the sky as it's phases spun out in reply .The animals were all around me so friendly and they were speaking to me.

Then the seasons started mixing up together.There was snow on one side of the yard ,spring on another The passing of the days sped up. Clouds rapidly moved as the shadows of the sun and moon rapidly moved across
the yard faster and faster. it would snow,rain, hail..in quick bursts,with sunshine in between.I saw the stars in the sky in motion like a syncopated gyroscope I was inside of..The stars that were far away formed into a snake and it danced around the horizon line.Then I felt my body being pulled up more..and I discovered I was inside that rainbow tree I ate the fruit from.I was moving up like sap. Looking out from inside the trunk was like looking out of crystal and stained glass room.I looked down to the Earth panther,and the gnarled roots of this tree I was in looked like her fur markings..It was the tree roots as spinning Galaxy of Earthy fractals.This fractal/fur marking root system was making worlds,and animals and people and all sorts of stuff before my eyes..I saw so many dreams, thoughts ,inventions,things people..Everything was forming off it's many ever changing fractalizing spiraling ends..It "ticked" in it's swirl motion.In time with my heart.

I looked up at the The Sky Panther and in it's eyes I saw something like outer space made of milky ways, suns, moons, planets, dust spirals, comets ,nebulae,and there were many orbs of stars that had faces,of people animals or many faces that changed shape .It was shifting wispy ,very beautiful . The faces were all kinds of faces,people animals,ect..They were clear with stars inside,their features were defined by membranes like the fruit I ate..They were like nebula's and galaxies that were alive. I was among them floating backwards. They were speaking all of them.Suddenly there was a HUGE crash of thunder and I was startled awake in my real life..in my bed on a sunny morning..


Sorry this letter was so long. I just needed to tell you this stuff.
Taker Easy,
Underground Panther in the sky

His Reply to me
>>Michael
>>Hi
>>
>>I operate outside the paradigm
>
>clearly,
>
>>BUT I also realize
>>some things are not of spirit and I waste no time trying to
>>say they are.
>
>that is not true. You are still deeply immersed in the
>illusions of duality.

Duality is not an illusion. How can you prove to me it is not beyond saying"believe".Because sorry I do not"believe".My journeys are different.They teach me different things about the nature of god and reality. It goes against most of the crowd,but I don't care I am not afraid to be different.

>>It's "bad fruit" It will make me sick in my
>
>

>You are a light worker. You voluntarily came here but you have
?been totally taken off guard by the negativity of this world.

No I was forced here. I remember flying,or at least the sensation of it. And this force not much different than a fist crushed me,compacted me slamming me in "here" into a fetus.My birth was very difficult because I did not want to come here. I was pulled out of my mom by force.
This vision was as clear as the positive ones I have had.


>You were told it would be this bad but you did not believe it
>Now, after experiencing the utter horror of life "in the
>trenches" you are having difficulty remembering who you are.

How can you say this about me? You are making alot of assumptions here.Can you tell me something besides "have faith" in your opinion about this unknown? Have you seen what I have seen? I doubt it.
I am a feline spirit /s I have no gender I am a rainbow colored lightning bolt of sorts.
>
>This difficulty is being compounded by all the "demons"
>floating round you now.

Every fortune teller says "ooh there are Daaark forces around you"
Actually some dark forces just look dark but they are not.And considering all this oneness you said above to point out that I might have a demon is a bit dualistic of you in case you haven't noticed.
Some forces look liker light but they are mean as anything.
This is why discernment matters.

>They pray on your fear and uncertainty
>and they insert their corrupt ideas into your consciousness in
>order to prevent you from seeing through to the light.

People do this to little children too.

Fear is something this Earth vibrates heavily because it is being tortured and it's light part is in bondage to the cancer consciousness.. And what is a corrupt idea if it isn't the"bad fruit" and cancerous consciousness I am talking about?
>
>These demons are not evel. They are simply lost souls if you
>will.
I dunno they could be ignorant, different than light,half made beings,
But I have seen directly into them.And they are not like me inside .There is no flame in them,not even a black flame..Sorry they are alien to this reality. Or maybe WE are the aliens to this reality.

>They are the same as you and I. They are just farther lost in
>the darkness.
Maybe maybe not.That's a BIG assumption.
Where does light go when you turn it out?
Not all lights burn eternal.Choice is one part of this equation and some choose dark.And they are toxic to me. They may never see what's good for them because maybe it kills them.
>
>These demons, knowing what' good for them and recognizing
>their time here is done, will now move away from you. It will
>help if you tell them to bugger off and never return.

Demons don't come around me anymore.They did years ago. I have no tweak phenomena.sorry. I am not scared of anything from other dimensions really.My power and sight is strong I walk with Sekhmet and Missipeshu. I have peered into the abyss for real and demons do not bother with me anymore.I have been through trials in life that would kill most people.
>
>Now, it is time to release all that energy that you have held
>within you for so long. There is no longer any reason to hold
>onto it. Release it and remember,

Release what? Energy? I release energy all the time I get as hot as fire when I do meditation and I shift through dimensions. People have seen me half faded away and freaked out, things have blown up,an inkwell,a rock. I have shut off the fuses in my house and caught lamps on fire with this "energy" It comes out of me sometimes on it's own.I am a reiki master, I have done medicine(learned it from my folks) Things like extractions,exorcisms and all. I pull parasitic entities off people all the time.I am familiar with the demonic.Familiar enough to know something about it and it is familiar enough with me,not to mess around with me.I am invisible to it..
>
>The universe is a universe of love.
Yes it is..
except it is in bondage to the absence of love.
The "evil" is something that does not recognize love.It is totally different than us.

If this universe was not in bondage why would we be trying so hard to ascend OUT of this state of how things are now for. Why are we ascending if where we are now is not somehow uncomfortable,tortured trapped and wanting escape from something? Why ascend unless you are ascending away from something by either co-opting it,or merging with'light'?? Can you answer this one?
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>There is only one God.

One god/dess (it has no gender)
Many faces and shapes

Another god,the Demiurge,a control freak with many faces born of a being beyond him he can't comprehend(because he is half blind it makes him insecure and crazy) so he says he is the only one..He has no spark.
The being that is beyond him wants us to come home,we are deep inside sparks of it's own kind. Those sparks of us who want to ascend and be free want to go home to mother. But we are trapped here, encased in a fragile corruptible shell,and it wants to stay here,play games and survive forever and win.This is the nature of dense dark materiality that feels like bondage to light. Delusions about light,love and oneness is one way dark demiurges trap us here.It holds us for as long as it can,it deludes us by lying about it's nature,claiming to be the ONLY god,it holds us hostage with our own goodness, duty service,kindness,compassion,.So by saying we chose to be here, the demiurge is hoping the next time we die we might stay with it mired here in the dark forever,doing service to him feeling pain so this half crazy god with no fire of his own inside can live by parasiting off our energy,It is what limits us lies, makes us react with fear and hate because that is what it feeds on,to feel alive and feel in control ,because he uses what was stolen from the being beyond him...because he doesn't have it or generate it because he is dead spiritless.

I don't like 99% of the bible but there are a few pieces of wisdom that wasn't edited out.

It said Satan controls this Earth
That Satan is the demiurge none other than the arrogant, allegedly omnipotent liar,One god.
>
>And we are it.

Yep and we is two gods in one body..One part light beyond trying to ascend, one part varying degrees of sick in my observation.
We are a sick,shattered,tortured god of a divided heart.Half wanting to stay half wanting to go home.Torture,the evil part (not the shadow self) caused this,The God that claims to be the one god,the god of vengeance and domination.The Yahweh who is half blind and denies anything could be beyond him,holds us in bondage and all of creation groans.
Sometimes you can't reclaim it all. Sometimes you have to amputate the gangrenous limb that causes your fever delusions and let it go to it's kind,the outer dark.
To force dark into light would torture it and recreate for it the need to descend away further into dark(which would be the opposite to our ascension).Long ago before the roman emperors got at the texts of the bible and edited it to suit their state control designs,the bible was Gnostic.It was dualist. The more authoritarian power structures of this world are threatened by dualism. Because dualism recognizes that a dominator(worldly or spiritual ) has no authority over your own godhood and your perceptions of what is.A dominator called THE ONE has no right to take your light and merge it into itself just because it thinks it is 'good' when even it's own words reek of corruption abuse and too human arrogance. I real god/dess is far above saying vengeance is mine..
Please don't give me platitudes I have heard countless times before,please consider what I am saying and what it means.Talk to me,not at me.

Take care,
U Panther