I hate to say this, but, why don't we demand 100% Healthcare for ...

[JanMichael]

...ALL human beings (Especially here in AMERICA for you pesimists...The big wide World is probably out of your interest range) before spending a $500 on our cats or dogs for bad teeth (Or bad breath:-))?

Or $1,000?

Isn't this a priority issue?

[Mika]

1. You must be a Castro lover

:evilgrin:

Good to see ya. :hi:

[JanMichael]

7. Nice to see you too! Guess what? My lovely wife and I are having...

...lunch tomorrow with friend of mine, and his spouse, who's family vacations in Cuba. And they aren't Cuban. I hope she likes them...I've been plotting an aniversery in Havana...

[ogradda]

2. i love my kitty...

but i'm more than willing to spring for national health care too

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

3. How is spending money on our animals

and demanding healthcare for people mutually exclusive?

[Vincardog]

5. Ok lets You start

[dolo amber]

4. FUCKIN' SOCIALIST HIPPIE!!

:P:D;)

(You guys get any weather badness today? :hi:)

[JanMichael]

Yep! We had to run down to to basement.

Although the building was built in the 60's so I can only assume it could probably take a direct hit from a nuke so we really weren't in any danger.

[dolo amber]

10. Bleh

We had severe thunderstorm warnings, tornado warnings...

We got a fuckload of rain and an occasional bit of wind...Oh well. There's always Jeanne to look forward to, eh? :eyes:

Glad you guys are cool. ;)

[JohnKleeb]

6. you know whats sick

I remember in young democrats last year, a retired boilermakers union official came in and told us, of how when he was lobbying for single payer health care and etc, they talked to Trent Lott and Lott refused to support not because he thought it was impractical but because of the socialist connation. What a bunch of stupid crap, a lot of things we take for granted now a days were socialist innovations.

[Mika]

9. Everyone knows...

.. that it takes a dictator to force universal health care on a populace. :eyes:

[CanuckAmok]

8. Oh, sure....

...first it's that damned socialist medicine, then the next thing you know, poor black women will have more babies just to increase their welfare payments, and Rupert will be back in school libraries...

then it'll be the homos making out on granite statues of the Ten Commandments, and lesbians on TV...

then New Coke...

then the Rapture, and we'll all be Judged.

[JanMichael]

11. You know what's really funny? I didn't expect that this would be much...

...of a Socialist thread. But I guess because we're taliking about human (As in your family, neighbors) well being it was inevitable...

I just thought we'd wanna fix people (Emergencies, teeth, hips, heads and hearts) before we cleaned Pookies teeth?

[Mika]

13. Pookie is more family than family

Pookie doesn't argue, and usually gives unconditional love. :shrug:


I just don't know, but I hear ya Jm.

[JanMichael]

18. Yeah, silent subjects are better for totalitarians...

I infuriates me though how much goes for superfluous vet shit whn PEOPLE go hungry or sick.

If I were a linear thinker I suppose it would be easier but I'm not. Damn natural selection to hell!

[legally blonde]

12. universal health care

is definitely the best way to go. It much more cost efficient and everyone will be treated equally. It will also significantly reduce the salaries the CEOs of big insurance and pharmaceutical companies. So naturally repugs won't go for it.

[Uzybone]

14. you damn commie!

if we did that where would we find the money to build yet another 150 nuclear equipped stealth bombers? Have you though about that?

[Uzybone]

15. 2x post

nt

[Lizzie Borden]

16. We couldn't possibly do this...

it just makes too much damned sense.

[REP]

17. Oh? When Did We Get Universal Health Care for Companion Animals?

And why does it have to be one or the other?

Or are you saying the next time one of the animals in my care is sick, I should run out and find a human I don't know and give them my money, and let the animal die? If so, dream on.

[JanMichael]

19. I guess that I'm saying that I care more about the aggregate that I do...

...about Pookie, sorry.

It's a persoanl experiance thing I suppose, I've seen homelessness today by virtue of my job. Best of luck though, today's system is perfect for those who value pets over Humans:-)

[REP]

20. Easy To Be Arrogant When You Don't Know What You're Talking About

My personal experience is that my kidneys are failing. Are you type B-?

[JanMichael]

21. So I haven't had a pet? Wrong. Would I help you before my wifes cat?

Of course I would. Don't pull the selfish ignorant card my friend.

Problem is that we've got an ass backward system. I'm not trying to be a dickhead here, just trying to sort out priorities.

[Kat45]

22. I've beem arguing for that since before HMOs were invented.

Health care a basic human right, and I've always had a problem with it being tied to one's job. Which means you have to have a job that provides it. You're screwed if you're self-employed, between jobs, working part-time, laid off, working for a small company that can't provide it, etc. You also might have to stay with a job that you hate instead of going for something you'd love. I am or have been in many of these situations. I'm only working 16 hours a week currently, and I've been looking for a second job for quite some time. But my cobra ends in March, so now I can only look at jobs that carry good health care benefits.

[stldemocrat]

23. Horrified

I am just horrified by the lack of attention that healthcare is getting in the campaign. All anyone wants to talk about is Vietnam.

[21winner]

24. If you aren't a socialist...

you are an anti socialist. Anti socialists populate the prisons. Definitions are the problem here.

"promote the general
Welfare" (That's the Constitution.) This means whatever we say it is when we have the political power to make it happen.

[KG]

25. someday, and it will be soon...

the way health care costs are rising, one day soon the working people of this land will realized how badly they are being screwed and march of DC with pitchforks and torch and demand socialized health care...

[Nay]

26. At least people who spend money on their animals' health are

spending money to alleviate suffering in a living being.

Contrast that with the men who spend thousands on car junk, excess computer and electronic crap, and women who have a hundred pair of shoes, junk jewelry, designer baskets and all that consumer trash.

And, having said that, I would also remind you that individual spending is just that -- individual. We all spend our individual money on things we want/need, and that has nothing to do with your health care. If I could take my cat's $100 shots bill and buy universal health care with it, I would. But I can't.

When we COLLECTIVELY decide to spend money on universal health care it will be a great thing, but I bet the people who are the animal lovers won't be your enemies then -- it will be the grasping bastards who want another hot rod or another necklace for themselves who will howl about "high taxes" to help people who should "have the grace to go die in a corner somewhere because they didn't take care of themselves."

[Rhiannon12866]

27. Of course it is. All Americans deserve health insurance

But I just had my dog's teeth cleaned. He has bad teeth and had to have eight extractions when I adopted him. The same is true for my cat. But they are on a Banfield "wellness plan," so it cost me nothing. This is a kind of health insurance for pets. If you're going to have a pet, you have to give them good care, or what's the point? Of course, the same is true for a child. Every American deserves good health care. This has been one of John Kerry's core issues, since the very first debate.:shrug: