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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:14 AM
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Had to go into a Christian bookstore today
:scared:

Had the nice big displayer in the front with that "Man of Faith" or whater the fuck book it is about how Shrubbie McFuckWad is such a great Christian man of faith and how everything he does has been ordained by God, according to prophecy, and how it would be okay, if you were a 40 year old mom of four, to blow him, since he's sanctified. Also, of course, some other books that link September 11 with America with Christ with being Christian with patriotism. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually physically shuddered a number of times whilst in the store.

They also had some terrible worship bulletins about Christ being the light of the world (which I believe) but the text was superimposed over a picture of the Statue of LIberty. It's bad enough to see all the schmarmy sacchariny vacuous-theology stuff they have, but to see Christ and America so integrated pisses me off. Remember Nazi Germany, when the churches decided to put swastikas on the crosses, and crosses on the swastikas? I do.

That shit pisses me off - the America = God bullshit. I can't begin to tell you how that pisses me off. I don't think anything, except perhaps when Shrubbie Shitknocker FilthMouth opens his mouth to spew more lies, makes me as angry.

I hate seeing my faith being so corrupted, so bastardized, and so misused for evil ends.

It was bad enough when the rightwing Jesus Crispies were just offering empty, unchallenging, marshmallow theology, even if it was filled with hate toward abortionists, homos, and communists. But now, esp. after Reagan, and way esp. after 9-11, the idiots have gone totally off their rockers into a realm where they are no longer just misguided/empty-headed/insipid, but they've taken a path of true heresy and abominable (in the theological sense of the word) theology.

And I have to be angry about that.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:17 AM
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1. it is sad beyond words.
Jesus is appalled, too, I'm sure.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:14 AM
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21. I think he's appalled, too
Probably up in Heaven saying "Come on, Dad, you gotta let me go back down! It's out of control! Just let me go slap that fucker, please?" and God says, "No, they have to figure it out on their own, but we shall grieve over and accept into Heaven every one of the millions of innocents they murder."
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:18 AM
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2. Well put
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:19 AM
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3. um, why not tell us how you really feel?
I'm kidding,of course.
'shrubbie mcfuckwad.'
that's a fine one.
...and 'ok to blow him because he's santified' is pretty sweet too.
this 'god ordained me president' bullshit got old pretty fuggin fast, didn't it?
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:19 AM
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4. Christ has been so hijacked.
Now it's about power and money.
Power without love.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 08:54 AM
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23. Yes, hijacked. By terrorists.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:21 AM
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5. My goodness
another Christian who feels the way I do?

I have an agnostic friend I had to practically coax into the Christian bookstore....we were only going becuase they have a great, secular teacher supply section, too. But we had to get past all the marketing Christianity bullshit first.

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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:24 AM
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6. sickening to see Christianity being exploited
for political gain. The breaking point for me was seeing bush sign someone's Bible. Did you see that pic? I couldn't believe the nerve!
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:26 AM
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7. Bush is now a graven image.
I saw it.
If I hear that he is the "annointed" one more time, I may scream.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:40 AM
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15. Where I live the Christians are going into business
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 12:41 AM by Jen 52
My used to be favorite restaurant was brought by the christians. I still like their food. I ignored the christian verses on the reader board. I ignored the 25 cents off on the drink if you could name bible verse on the board. However, the other day I went in and they were having a prayer circle for the staff. The only person working the till or kitchen was the owner. They were praying in the area where I usually sit and wait for my take-out.

Needless to say the service was slow and I had to stand the whole time. I am officially boycotting them now and there aren't that many good restaurants in this town.


The other thing is we now have a christian beauty parlor and a christian run Electrolysis place. I'm north of Seattle and in our primary election about triple the number of democrats voted in this county. Go figure.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:16 AM
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25. Christian electrolysis?
'Cause Jesus doesn't want you to have a monobrow?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 11:20 AM
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30. Not Christian electrolysis, but a Christian-run business
It's becoming popular in the world of the Jesus Crispie movement to patronize only businesses run by Christians that are run in a Chrsitian way. Which sadly means, I'm sure, that the employees are paid less, not allowed to unionize, and that the owner is stil taking home a gargantuan hunk o' cash to support the 5 bedroom suburban home and SUV they need to drive their 3.6 perfect little children back and forth to soccer practice (playing in a Christian league) and their nightly church activities at the mega-church sitting in a wealthy suburban neighborhood with an annual budget of 10 million, and a total mission expense of $37,000.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:18 AM
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36. Yes there really is Christian Electrolysis
The lady running the place is quite devout and plays christian music and talks about god to her clients. I am seriously considering doing my business in the next town.

The amazing thing is that this county consistently votes democrat.

Christians going into business seems to be all the rage around here.

Story about a Christian beauty shop being graffied

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/09/11/loc_salon001.cfm
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Briarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 11:46 AM
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33. I got my nipples pierced at a Christian place
They do tattoos, piercings, and tanning...strange place, but that's the midwest for ya!
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:19 AM
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37. Somehow I can believe it
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:19 AM
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22. Yes. Sickening. And I'm not a flag worshipper by any means,
and hate having the US flag in the sanctuary as so many churches do, but I was also appalled when FuckNuts McCokeHead signed the US flag for that guy in the crowd at some Rovian-generated and sanctified "speech" he gave.

The man talks about his faith an awful lot, but the evil War Criminal In Chief sure as hell doesn't even come close to walking the talk. He's an evil, filthy little shitfucking abomination.

I'd like to say he's Satan, cuz he sure acts like it, except that he's too fucking stupid.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:28 AM
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8. Remarks from a fundie today
"The more you grow in Christ, the more you'll see the failings of modern liberalism."

BUSHIT, YOU AWOLFREEPMCFUCKKKWADFROMHELL#%^$&*^(*^%*^%#^%$%(*^*^!

Just had to get that off my chest--I guess I'm not acting very much like a Christian right now.

:grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad:
:grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad:
:grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad:
:grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad:
:grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad:
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:30 AM
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10. I'd make them explain it to me
then hit them with scripture. Jesus was a bleeding heart liberal.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:33 AM
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11. I do that to the more reasonable fundies
We're talking about the chairperson of the college rethuglikkkans here.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:36 AM
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13. All the more reason to do it!
Only if you feel like going up against a brick wall.
The world is black and white to them.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:34 AM
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12. and how did you respond to that?
or is that the part in bold print? :) I would have just lost it if someone said that to me. Its like if you don't agree with them, then you're not enough of a Christian, or not a real one. Jesus only loves republicans.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:44 AM
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16. At this point, he ran into some freepers to distract him
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:46 AM
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17. That's sad.
And funny too.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:29 AM
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9. ~hugs~
:beer::hug::beer:

I wasn't in a Christian bookstore tonight; but I had dinner with my nice-kid-turned-fundy-bushfucker sister...another drinker of the Kool-Ade.

Let's have a beer and pray for the lost souls.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:38 AM
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14. I just have to say
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 12:40 AM by ZombyWoof
Nobody else on DU comes up with better names for the coke-snorting Chimpdildo than you do! :D
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:50 AM
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18. I still believe the pope is justified with his suspicions of Junior
being the Anti-Christ. I really, really do.

:evilfrown:


http://mirrors.meepzorp.com/geocities.com/george-bush-antichrist/
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 12:57 AM
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19. It's not even straight religious fundamentalism
It's a truly nasty mix of religious extremism and the same kind of frothing-at-the-mouth nationalism that we saw in Japan and Germany in the '30s and Serbia in the '90s. It's as much of a perversion of Christianity as al-Qaida's ideology is a perversion of Islam.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:11 AM
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20. Absolutely
the republican rightwing machine has finally managed to get the religion and the patriotism mixed together.

The saving grace here is that, once they've eliminated all the groups that "God hates and wants destroyed", they *must* turn on one another. Because in Jesus Crispy fundamentalism, there are clear distinctions between saved and unsaved, and that determination is always "do you believe exactly (in mathematic terms "congruently") to me?" It starts with large groups, moves to smaller groups once the "enemy" large gruops are gone, and slowly moves down the pike to the level of individuals, until there's a handful of human beings left who no longer have the capacity to kill one another due to radiation poisoning, old age, disease from biological weapons, or whatever.
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:32 AM
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24. Dude! Dang!
Really sorry for that traumatic experience. Wish I could offer some comfort. How about a pagerhug? :hug:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 11:15 AM
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29. Thanks!!
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 11:16 AM by Rabrrrrrr
The most dirtying thing is perhaps that so many have been utterly convinced and deluded into thinking that Shrubbie "My Policies Are the Antithesis of Jesus' Teaching" McCokeFiend is a righteous man of God and an exemplar of the Christian faith.

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

Promise me that this bad man will be sent away soon...
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:23 AM
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26. Like I've always said...
If I were to be given supreme executive power over the US for three months, my second act would be to take all these fundiefascists, round them up, strip them of their citizenship and have them deported.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:46 AM
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27. "God is with us!"
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:51 AM
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28. Ja, Herr Gott Bush!
JA!!

Such arrogance I'm seeing from the rightwing of Christian America. No different than the nazis. And no different than any number of countries/empires of the past who felt it was their divine mandate to overthrow and kill and make the world "pure".

Like humanity is capable of making ourselves "pure".

Sickening.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 11:24 AM
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31. Why is American fundamentalism backwards?
I guess I need to read up on my history to see if my point is true or not, but don't most fundamentalist movements begin from the poor and disenfranchised? Why is American fundamentalism backwards? It's coming from the privileged class...why?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:46 PM
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35. I would say, and I could be wrong on this,
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 01:47 PM by Rabrrrrrr
But I would say that the movement did begin with the poor and disenfranchised - specifically, those in the southern Bible belt. The movement could most likely be traced back even into the early 1800s and through the Revivalist movement and etc., but I would say the current movement really gained its wings in the 1950s, maybe even the late 40s, with the advent of radios and then TVs in most homes timed with the occurrence of some national movements that the fundies rebel against - teaching evolution (the ol' Scopes trial and some others), the civil rights movement, the nasty godless communist movement, etc. A bunch of poor miserable Christians who felt their rights and the freedoms were being squashed because the government is telling them to stop killing black people and treat women like human beings.

As technology allowed them to get together and form a bit of a stronger group and pass information around, they became more vocal and more organized. Then, realizing that they needed some capital to continue their message of hate and fear and xenophobia, they had to find rich people (the same way the muslim fundies, at least the militant ones, have to find rich people to support them as well). So they said to the rich people "Give us money, and the few millions of us will vote for you and help you out". And the rich people said, "Ooh, there's a huge potential now for using religion to further our cause. You people are ignorant idiots for giving us this power, but we'll take it." And the fundies said, "Great! We'll tell our people that it's now okay to be super rich, even if the money is made by breaking their backs" and the rich said, "And we'll keep giving you money and acting like we believe your BS and will throw the occasional bit of legislational bone to feed to your fear and hatred" and the fundies said "and every time you do, we shall a write a book extolling the Christian virtues of whoever is in charge and we shall preach sermons and write Christian books telling our people that they must vote for you, support you, and look the other way whenever you might make a little 'mistakey-poo' and pollute the earth or cut their jobs or send them off to war."

And thus you have the modern fundy movement - or at least, that part of it that has allowed itself to be co-opted by the republican party. And why it is now so much being led by the wealthy, while it screws the poor who are the ones pouring the most time and effort and resources into it.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 11:43 AM
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32. Bad theology
Christ is the light of the world--not America. This is zealousness at its worst.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 11:48 AM
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34. Yes, just like they say on Air America,
God bless the whole world, no exceptions.
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