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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:12 PM
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Black, Gay and Republican? Sure, just no longer a Log Cabin
Black Gay reupubs have to be the most schizophrenic people on the planet.

They can't even fit in with the Log Cabiners.

But Bush is still their boy. How ridiculous can you get?

>>Black Gay Republicans Break with Log Cabin Republicans, Endorse Bush

Abe Lincoln Black Republican Caucus Letter of Endorsement Will Be Delivered to the Republican National Committee Headquarters at 11:30 a.m. Today, Wednesday, September 22

DALLAS, Sept. 22 /PRNewswire/ -- The Abe Lincoln Black Republican Caucus (ALBRC), a group of young urban Black gay Republicans, voted today in a special call meeting in Dallas, Texas, to endorse President Bush for re- election.<<

http://www.queery.com/sybfusion.cgi?templ=q-item2.tpl&category=News&idx=94607

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:15 PM
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1. Thank you for bringing this to the lounge
Because I actually thought this was a phony story at first. I am trying to get a hold of Gay Buddist Environmentalists against the occupation of Tibet by China Republicans :shrug: you think I could find any.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:53 PM
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8. That's a hilarious thought! eom
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:15 PM
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2. wow
and I didn't even know they existed.

Is there a black, gay, immigrant, muslim, and living-below-the-poverty-line group that endorses Bush too?
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:17 PM
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3. THere's maybe four or five of them, tops
Meh. Very misguided. Self-loathing. Some very confused people.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:18 PM
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4. it would be even more fucked up if they were below the poverty level
and women too because women are a more stronger dem bloc. Gotta say though if I was protestant, I'd be in the most republican voting bloc of all, white protestant southern male, thank god I am Catholic :D.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:33 PM
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5. Black, gay Republican Conservative....
Is this the ultimate dual-oxymoron?

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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:52 PM
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6. It's an oxymoron now but in history, the Republicans were
responsible for ending slavery, lived in the North and New England states and were the most liberal party. That probably explains it. They're probably a remnant of what the party used to be combined with the newer ideology of fiscal conservatism which actually used to be a Democrat stance and is returning to that only they haven't realized it yet. LOL
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:01 PM
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10. Republicans represented liberal ideals VERY briefly, roughly 1856
to 1880. In 1876, as in 2000, Republicans stole the election from the popularly elected Democrat. After Rutherford B Hayes, in 1880, Ulysses Grant sold the Rethugs to the railroads, bankers, corporate interests etc. A brief resurgence of liberal Republicanism occurred under Teddy Roosevelt (1901-1908).

Other than that, the Republican party has been the party of the far-right and the rich.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:05 PM
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11. This is why I would have been an indy up until 1928 Rowdy
I would have voted Debs over TR though, LaFallite in 1924.
Here's the first dem I wuold ever vote for, for president in the modern age though.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:10 PM
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12. You're probably correct. I'm going by what my 96YO
grandpa told me. He remembered how conservative the Dems were prior to Roosevelt then he said they became more liberal because of the masses needing assistance during the Great Depression. He says he can only remember back to 1920 or so! He explained to me how Abe Lincoln who lived in the North was Republican and the Republicans were more liberal who later switched as the parties switched social values and that's why we have "Dixiecrats" in the South because they are actually Republican now or DINOs. He said most Southerners were Democrats back then. He also told me the Dems always supported the unions and hasn't ever changed. He's better than a history book!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:11 PM
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13. FDR would have made me a full blooded democrat
but my first democratic vote ever would have been for Al Smith, four years before.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 11:50 PM
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14. You should get him on tape....
My own grandfather (1901-1978) told me so many wonderful stories and I would give anything to have him on tape, describing the 1920's in his own words. Oral remembrances are among the most interesting part of history.

My grandfather disappeared, and left his young wife and child in 1921 when he lost his job. She moved back in with her family. He returned a year later with a little money, but no explanation for where he had been. They reunited and stayed married until her death in 1962.

Later, in the early 1970's, he told me where he had been during the missing year. He was a migrant worker in Texas, California and Kansas, worked on ranches, and basically saved every nickle he earned. He worshiped Franlin Delano Roosevelt.

Get your grandfather on the record while you have the chance.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:27 AM
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15. I gave him a tape recorder but I don't think he uses it.
He says he's tried it but feels funny talking into the recorder on his own. I can't carry a tape recorder around and expect him to be natural. I just hope when he's alone he might use it sometime. I hope he has. I also gave him a journal to jot down anything about his past and history that comes to his mind. Hopefully he does it!

He told me a most interesting story of driving from Indiana all the way through the west, picking up a guy who had been struck by lightening and not knowing he was dead by the time they reached the destination, having an Indian come and pull the car out of a river they got stuck in while going across it in their car! All kinds of wild stories about that trip! He said everybody's dream was to travel in a car across the U.S. so he did it with a friend one summer. It was an old crank type car. They just took a little money and went.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:52 PM
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7. Perhaps they were recruited the same way as seniors to back the drug cards
They probably paid a bounty to whoever could recruit black Repubs for Boosh,
just as they did to get senior citizens who would back the Medicare
drug cards:

"A Republican lobbying firm is offering healthcare consultants almost $4,000 each to find senior citizens who are willing to speak out in favor of the Medicare drug discount card and write letters to Congress thanking members for saving them money on pharmaceuticals...."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=845575


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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:55 PM
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9. They illuminate the problem
with the party system in the US. You want to be conservative - you bet, be a conservative. I support that because IT'S STILL A FREE COUNTRY! But they just don't fit into the *party* that identifies itself as conservative (even though it's not, not anymore). And they won't come to our side because we're "tax-and-spend" and "stupid on security"... Oh, I give up!
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