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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 01:41 PM
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Please recommend some books for me to buy
The last couple books I have read:


1)Diary, by Chuck Pahluniuk (I have read everything by him)
2)Shadowland, by Peter Straub
3)Wolves of the Cala, Stephen King (I have read everything by Kind, too)
4)Why Courage Matters, by John McCain (actually haven't finished it, kind of boring)

I have America by Jon Stewart on order, as well as King's Dark Tower #7. I am kind of "Politicked-out," so even though I have Franken's books I have not yet read them. Any recommendations along the lines of the above (just-for-fun books)?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 01:42 PM
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1. How Stella Got Her Groove Back
:shrug:

For variety's sake?
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 01:45 PM
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2. Pbpbpbttthhhppptt
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 01:55 PM
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4. Have you read any Mickey Spillane?
;)

Seriously, you might like James Ellroy or Carl Hiaason. You might even like Patricia Highsmith. Deep Water is a masterpiece of mundane creepiness.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 01:57 PM
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5. Now THAT is a recommendation
I will look into Deep Water, thank you!!!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 05:43 PM
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24. Patricia Highsmith... one of my favorite writers
:thumbsup:
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 01:54 PM
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3. 1421: the Year China Discovered America
Nerdy, contrarian fun.

Author is a British sub commander who stumbled onto some Chinese history which is ignored in the West. Mainly that the Ming Dynasty ordered 900 ships to map the globe in 1421. He weaves together culture, history and geography.

Filled with interesting tidbits such as the Chinese junk which was discovered near Sacramento. The making of Chinese style laquer wear in Mexico prior to Columbus. The name given by native Americans, "Wyoming" actually ties to the Ming dynasty (Wyo - Ming). The book has caused an uproar but many have filled in gaps and have added to the evicence since the hardback edition was published. Get the paperback with the added material.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 01:58 PM
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6. Nice!! Thanks!
That sounds great!



I'm headed away from my computer for the day but will be back to check and see if anyone else leaves any recommendations later today. Thanks gusy!
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:00 PM
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7. a few of my favorites that I've read recently-

Confederacy of Dunces - O'Toole
Dead Souls - Gogol
Brothers Karamazov - Dostoevsky (cant go wrong with Fyodor)
The Holographic Universe - Talbot
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:28 AM
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32. I've read confederacy of dunces,
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 10:29 AM by shylock1579
and I'll write the others down. Thank you!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:02 PM
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8. The Alienist
by Caleb Carr is cool.

Weaves true 19th century New York history with a serial killer. A psychiatrist (called Alienists back then), and a group of acquaintances solve the crimes, with the help of Teddy Roosevelt (the chief of police at the time).

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 06:01 PM
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27. And the follow-up, "The Angel of Darkness", is pretty decent, too. (nt)
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:30 AM
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33. That sounds along my tastes, thanks
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:04 PM
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9. Philip Pullman's "His Dark Materials" trilogy is outstanding
His Dark Materials Trilogy: The Golden Compass / The Subtle Knife / The Amber Spyglass

In the epic trilogy His Dark Materials, Philip Pullman unlocks the door to worlds parallel to our own. Dæmons and winged creatures live side by side with humans, and a mysterious entity called Dust just might have the power to unite the universes--if it isn't destroyed first. The three books in Pullman's heroic fantasy series, published as mass-market paperbacks with new covers, are united here in one boxed set that includes The Golden Compass, The Subtle Knife, and The Amber Spyglass. Join Lyra, Pantalaimon, Will, and the rest as they embark on the most breathtaking, heartbreaking adventure of their lives. The fate of the universe is in their hands.

It's also great as a book on tape.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:31 AM
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34. SWEET!!!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:04 PM
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10. "The Man Who Ate the 747"
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 02:09 PM by bif
Light but a fun read. Also "Pobby and Dingan" by Ben Rice.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:06 PM
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11. The Anarchist's Cookbook
it may come in handy in the next six months.






the preceeding was a joke, please don't use this book for anything more than pure entertainment. Most of the things containted within are illegal and immoral. I am not advocating revolution, violence or the questioning of the leadership and power of our great leader, George W. Bush. Personally, if Our Fearless Leader asked me to die for his imperial dreams, I would consider it a personal failure that I had not already done so, and thaT I had brought shame on my family. God Bless GW, long may he rule, driving the evil democrats and terrorists into the ground with his jackboooted thugs, while keeping us good americans safe with his loving embrace. That is all.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:33 AM
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35. I already own the military manual "improvised munitions"
although I have no intent of using it for any other reason but for entertainment, nor do I condone that others do so. Long live GWB.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:07 PM
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12. Iron Council by China Mieville
dark fantasy with a socialist pov.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:16 PM
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13. "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time"
Excellent! and in paperback too for $12. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:47 PM
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18. Excellent book. I'll second that.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:34 AM
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36. I've heard good things, i've added it to the list.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:28 PM
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14. "Permanent War" by Sid Lens, "Blood In My Eye" by George L. Jackson,
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 02:28 PM by bobthedrummer
"The Construction of Reality in the Child" by Jean Piaget, "Attachment" & "Separation" by John Bowlby, "The CIA & The Cult of Intelligence" by John Marks and Victor Marchetti, "By Way Of Deception: The Making and Unmaking of a Mossad officer." by Victor Ostrovsky and Claire Hoy.

Lots and lots of books to read.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:33 PM
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15. One of the all time best action/adventure tales: The Three Musketeers
The year is 1625. The young D'Artagnan arrives in Paris at the tender age of 18, and almost immediately offends three musketeers, Porthos, Aramis, and Athos. Instead of dueling, the four are attacked by five of the Cardinal's guards, and the courage of the youth is made apparent during the battle. The four become fast friends, and, when asked by D'Artagnan's landlord to find his missing wife, embark upon an adventure that takes them across both France and England in order to thwart the plans of the Cardinal Richelieu. Along the way, they encounter a beautiful young spy, named simply Milady, who will stop at nothing to disgrace Queen Anne of Austria before her husband, Louis XIII, and take her revenge upon the four friends.

http://www.online-literature.com/dumas/threemusketeers/
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:35 PM
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16. Ishmael by Daniel Quinn and "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight" ,......
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 02:42 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
by Thom Hartmann - about the declining availability of non-renewable energy and the impact that this will soon have on our world.

The term “ancient sunlight” in the title of this book refers to the solar energy that was originally captured by plants and then stored in the form of hydro-carbons (oil, gas and coal) for hundreds of millions of years. Hartmann also produces the figures on the foreseeable impact of global warming and the rapid destruction of habitat, including the rain forests.

Hartman says:

“Because of human actions – and inaction – our planet appears to be on a collision course with disaster.” He adds, “we long ago passed a human population number that could be sustained without the intensive use of gasoline and oil, so we are burning up a 300 million year old fossilized-plant resource (which, if things don’t change, is expected to run dry in the lifetimes of our children) in order to feed the six billion humans currently riding spaceship Earth. Many more may starve, even more than are starving today.

And virtually nothing is being done by governments to offset this very real possibility.”


i believe we will see millions here in the US die of starvation starting in about 15/20 years from now.


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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 06:24 PM
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31. I second Ishmael -- the mark of Cain blew my mind.
Seriously.

That was the last book I read that made me go WHOA. The mark of Cain. That was somethin' alright.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:39 AM
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39. Ishmael is an outstanding book.
Changes your perspective on things. I recommend leaving "My Ischmael," the follow up, on the rack.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:39 PM
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17. Tom Robbins - Still Life with Woodpecker
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:59 PM
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19. "Skinny Dip" by Hiaasen
He's way back in form after the last two (weaker) efforts. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:00 PM
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21. I read that recently-it's a fun read
Good characters, good story, great ending.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 06:13 PM
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28. I'm sorry but NOT!
Hiaasen's style is getting stale and formulaic. Too bad, because he is syndicated in our local paper and he's got talent. He's wasting it lately. If you've read one of the last three books, you've read them all. far fetched plot lines and off-beat characters. Ha-Ha, funny the first time
This last one is the worst as it contains filler characters (because the repeat ones are undimensional) and scenes which are boring. It even uses the same location (the stilt house) and the similar events in the ending as another.

Save your money

Get instead: The Devil's Highway
or: The Living Unknown Soldier

I'm reading Jon Stewarts book now and it si a riot, very clever.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:59 PM
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20. The Fourth Hand by John Irving
my book club is reading that next.

Anything by Irving is worth reading.
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Dirty Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:05 PM
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22. I second
Confederacy of Dunces - O'Toole


Finishing it now. Hysterical!!!!!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 05:41 PM
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23. The Jane's books are always fun
Jane's Weapons Systems is one of the greatest books ever written.

Jane's Armor and Artillery is good. As is Jane's Infantry Weapons.

Jane's Fighting Ships is only good half the time--it comes out annually and they alternate between ship silhouettes and ship descriptions; make sure you get one that isn't all silhouettes.

I don't much care for Jane's Military Communications. I always needed to use "other" sources to figure out what I needed.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 05:46 PM
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25. The Hyperion Series by Dan Simmons. It equals Dune and LTR
It will be remebered and read hundreds of years from now.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 05:55 PM
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26. Nothing but good things to say about "Hyperion"................
Dan Simmons is a truly gifted writer.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:37 AM
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38. In that case
I've added it to the list. Thanks!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 06:13 PM
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29. 1984 by Orwell, unless you've read it already
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:37 AM
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37. Yep, read it
and unsettlingly relevant.
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scottcsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 06:19 PM
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30. "Oh, The Things I Know" by Al Franken
Not political but very funny. Also, the collections of Woody Allen's short stories are worth lookinig for: "Without Feathers," "Getting Even," and "Side Effects." Woody has a very odd sense of humor, but I can read those stories over and over and still laugh out loud. Steve Martin's "Cruel Shoes" is very funny, too, but you'll probably have to search your local used bookstore for that one as it is out of print.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 11:06 AM
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40. The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson
One of the most fascinating and thought inspiring novels I've ever had the joy of reading.At times it can be slow,but as you go along you realize the scope,wonderment and life affirming nature of the novel.All in all it's one of the top 5 books I've EVER read (I've read it twice already,and will read it again soon).

Here's part of a detailed review I found;

The premise is simple and inspired. In the Middle Ages, the plague did not kill one-third of the population of Europe; rather, it eradicated almost all of the continent's inhabitants. Robinson builds an alternate history of the world which unfolds inexorably and complexly from this premise. It is, naturally, a history which in many ways is profoundly different from the one we know: Christianity is neither a religious nor political force; English does not become the dominant language; China and Islam are the great colonial empires; the Enlightenment, or something very like it, is centered in the equivalent of India rather than Europe; North America is occupied by three main cultural groups: Chinese, Aboriginal, and Islamic.

In other respects, the world Robinson posits is not unlike our own. The Tokugawa Shogunate assumes rulership of Japan at a time parallel to the beginning of our 17th century. There is a period of terrible global warfare spanning six decades during the period equivalent to the end of our 19th century and the first half of the 20th: in effect, our two world wars are conflated into one long, brutal conflict. Scientific developments proceed at a similar pace, and by the time of this other world's version of the 20th century, the potential to create an atomic bomb exists. The ongoing interplay between real history and Robinson's invented history is one of the novel's many fascinations.

Each of The Years of Rice and Salt's 10 sections takes place in a different time and place, but they are linked by an ingenious narrative device: the principle characters are always reincarnations of the same souls. These individuals are members of the same jati, a group of souls whose destinies are bound together. In each life, they gravitate toward each other, impelled by mystic forces of attraction. After each life, they reunite in a kind of Buddhist limbo called the bardo and remember their past lives. They are then cast into the next life, after being karmically judged by unsympathetic gods; born anew, they forget their past selves until their next death, except for the occasional moment of déjà vu or rare transcendent experience, when they briefly escape the boundaries of their mortal selves.

In each incarnation, the three principle souls, the protagonists of the novel, can be identified by the first letters of their names, which never change. From one section to another, they may be male or female, old or young, even in one case an animal, but their personalities remain true: B____ (Bold, Bistami, Butterfly, etc.) is modest, spiritually-inclined, gentle but resilient; K____ (Kyu, Katima, Kheim, etc.) is a leader, a revolutionary, an agent of change; I____ (I-Li, Ibn Ezra, I-Chin, etc.) is a scholar and thinker, endlessly curious about the world.

In a sense, these three souls represent faith, action, and thought; together, they can move the world. Their experiences in China, the Travancore League (India), the Middle East, Firanja (Europe), and Yingzhou (North America) provide us with an overview of the many cultures and historical phases of this world both like and unlike our own. We walk a long way with them down the corridor of time. By the end we look back, amazed, at how far we have come.

The first section ("Awake to Emptiness") takes a Mongol called Bold on a circular journey from central Asia through plague-stricken Europe to Africa, where he is enslaved and sold to Chinese merchants. Bold and an African boy called Kyu eventually find themselves working together in the restaurant of Master Shen and his wife I-Li. The last section ("The First Years") tells us of the life of a diplomat, Bao Xinhua: his childhood in China with the insurgent Kung Jianguo; his marriage to a fellow diplomat in Fangzhang (San Francisco); his middle years studying in the vast Burmese metropolis of Pyinkayaing under the philosopher Zhu Isao; his later years back in Fangzhang, where he teaches and tends his garden.

Both of these sections, and all of the intervening ones, could be expanded into separate novels. They are rich in ideas and details and humanity. They are also imbued with a sense of life's transient nature. Throughout, the characters strive to make the world a better place, and fall short of their goals; some die for their ideals. But over time, we see that their actions make a difference in small or large ways and contribute to the improvement of the lot of humanity. Even if it depicts a flawed, imperfect world, the impulse of the novel is utopian.

One could also say that the novel is utopian -- or at least hugely optimistic -- in the task it sets itself. It is difficult, if not impossible, to recapitulate 700 years in 650 pages. Accordingly, The Years of Rice and Salt is sometimes an arduous read. Robinson works hard to give substance to his world, to make it seem more complete than most fictional realities. Sometimes, it is laborious to work along with him. The early sections can be slow going, with their painstaking attention to detail and methodical buildup. But the cumulative power of the novel is immense. Whatever impatience I felt in the first couple of hundred pages was more than compensated for by the exhilaration I felt when I began to understand its scope, its imaginative brio, its willingness to take risks.

The effort required by The Years of Rice and Salt pays off in spades in the final three or four sections, which are utterly alive. They convey, as few novels do, a sense of people inhabiting, experiencing and urgently trying to make sense of the world. To borrow the words of one of its protagonists, the novel works toward "a kind of understanding of human reality that place the greatest value on compassion, created by enlightened understanding, created by study of what there in the world." Robinson approaches this task with an almost religious intensity and devotion. But if there is a religious impulse behind the novel, it is Buddhist in nature: from its epigraph onward, The Years of Rice and Salt is suffused with Buddhist thought and is based on reverence for the material world rather than a higher power.

The Years of Rice and Salt engages the world directly and intensely. In so doing, it invites the reader to do the same. There is little more I would ask of a book. |

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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 11:55 AM
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41. Nice! Have you read the Tesseract?
It has seemingly randoms stories with an unspoke connection, although not quite as deep as this. Added to the list, Thanks!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 11:59 AM
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42. I haven't
but I'm library bound this week sometime and I'll look for it.Always looking for new reading material!
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:03 PM
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43. Anything by Neil Gaiman
But especially "American Gods". One of the most amazing books I've ever read. It's a novel about a man who has just gotten out of prison and he meets up with a stranger who asks him to go to work for him. What ensues is sort of an odyssey across the U.S. in which they meet all these incredible people.

The whole idea of the thing was the author's wondering what happens to the old gods who are brought here by immigrants from their native countries. As the people are assimilated and as generations pass, their beliefs evolve as well. This book is the author's answer to what happens to those gods - it's amazing and beautifully written while also being a delightful and entertaining work of fiction.

Hard to describe but I would recommend this book to anyone - everyone I've given it to has loved it.

His "Neverwhere" and "Stardust" are also fabulous.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:06 PM
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44. Tha sounds interesting enough to look into. Added to the list!
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