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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:10 PM
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Celebs you didn't really like until you found out they are Democrats
I could admire Woody Allen, Richard Gere, and Audioslave more.

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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:14 PM
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1. ahhh....Audioslave
3 of the 4 members were from Rage Against the Machine, an unfortunately defunct leftist militant rock band. I consider their guitarist, Tom Morello, my hero and the reason I got into politics (although, he really isn't a democrat...)

but, I didn't know Chris Cornell (lead singer, former lead singer of Soundgarden) was a democrat...I liked them anyways, so it doesn't matter to me that much...
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:17 PM
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4. chris cornell
anyone who came of age in the grunge years can tel you chris cornell was always very outspoken politically

especially on pro-choice matters
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:18 PM
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9. well, I really didn't know about that...
I'm pretty much coming of age now, so I really had no clue. But, I guess I can only love the man more now that I already do...
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:50 PM
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45. Are you sure Cornell is a Dem?
I remember seeing an interview with him where he stated how p*ssed off he was when MTV was doing the whole Rock The Vote thing in '92 because he felt they didn't mean to get out the vote overall, that they meant to get out the vote for Clinton/Democrats.

I'm not saying that makes him a republican, but it still doesn't necessarily make me think he's liberal.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:01 PM
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46. There were a couple articles on Audioslave at LiberalArtists.com
Tom Morello was the focus, though.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:15 PM
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2. Note
I still don't really like their work, but I gained respect.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:16 PM
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3. were you really surprised Woody Allen is a Dem?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:18 PM
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8. He's still a perv, no matter which party he aligns himself
with.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:20 PM
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11. Very true
I don't like him personally at all.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:33 PM
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14. But..
We have so many good people on our side that a couple sleazeballs shouldn't hurt much.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:18 PM
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10. Not really, but..
I found out he's fairly active for us.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:17 PM
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5. George Clooney ROCKED my world when he slammed oreilly in THAT
letter.

I'd seen and met the guy a buncha times when he was on ER, and never even looked at him twice.

Then he wrote THAT letter and I sat up REAL straight.



He's way cool!
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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 07:10 PM
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17. what letter?
I was in Iraq-Kuwait for almost a year so I probably missed it. Any links?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 07:13 PM
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18. I LOVE this letter....
http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/News/clooney.htm



November 6, 2001


Mr. O’Reilly,

On the evening of October 31st you ran a story that has no basis in truth. What is not important is your attack of the performers who gave their time to raise money during the telethon for the September 11th fund. What is important is your accusation that the fund is being mishandled and misused. That sir, as you know, is nothing short of a lie.

The fund is intact and has already handed out some 36 million dollars to victims’ families (fifteen thousand checks), with over $230 million more to be allocated as The United Way sorts through the complicated process of who is in the most need. To have given out all of the money only six weeks after it was raised, would truly be irresponsible. If you were a journalist you would have known that.

If you were doing your job you would have also known that the person put in place to run the September 11 Fund is a man named Frank Thomas. Now that’s not the baseball player Bill, but rather the man who headed the Ford Foundation for several years. The Ford Foundation, Mr. O’Reilly, is one of the greatest charitable organizations in the world….. (Not a car dealership…. but I’m sure you knew that). Mr. Thomas is a man respected worldwide and I would enjoy watching you question his character publicly.

…..No Mr. O’Reilly, even you wouldn’t do that.

So, let’s re-cap.

The fund is not only the most successful single fundraiser ever (over 260 million dollars); it is also doing exactly what it is designed to do. Responsibly. The money is going out to the right people and to make certain of this, the United Way is taking some time.

It took one phone call to find this information. One phone call you did not make. But hey, it’s the first week of sweeps and you need to run a hard-hitting expose’ of irresponsible, pampered performers and try to bait them on your show with inflammatory statements. I’m sure it must have been frustrating for you that not one person took the bait. Hell Bill, even McCarthy got a few people to show up.

Here’s the problem, and why I’m forced to respond: People are coming up to me and asking if it’s true the telethon was a fraud. That means the next time we try to raise money, like when the CD from the telethon comes out this month, fewer people will participate. Because of your unsubstantiated, untrue statements about the September 11 Fund, You, Mr. O’Reilly will be taking money away that from people who need it….and all because it’s the first week of sweeps.

I will say this; you were right about one thing. You accused all of the performers of lying. You named them one by one and read each of their excuses for not responding to you.

Tom Cruise, “Too busy”.
Brad Pitt, “Too busy to respond”.
Tom Hanks…..you get the idea.


You’re right, Mr. O’Reilly, we lied…all of us. Of course we weren’t too busy. And if you were Peter Jennings, or Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, Charlie Rose, The Washington Post, New York Times, LA Times, or pretty much anybody else, we would have dropped everything and explained what we know. You see Bill, these are journalists. So, yes we lied when we said we were too busy to do your “entertainment show”. We were just trying to not hurt your feelings.

I can’t wait to see what’s in store for the February sweeps.

Your biggest fan,

George

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:43 PM
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42. Moses on a pony!
Edited on Tue Sep-16-03 12:43 PM by Iris
I didn't even know GC had a brain!

This letter is fantastic!
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:08 PM
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28. Now be honest
Edited on Mon Sep-15-03 10:09 PM by Ramsey
Didn't George rock your world even before he wrote that letter??

Edit: Mostly naked George Clooney on the cover of Vanity Fair this month. And for those not rocked by George, there is also an article entitled "The Bushes and the Bin Ladens" from one of the few media outlets in this country that doesn't survive on Republican semen.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 10:33 AM
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33. Seriously, I never even NOTICED GC until he wrote that letter, and I
worked fora while on post for ER while he was on it...(WAAAAAAAY back in the day) He'd walk right by, and all the girls would swoon and I'd be like "yeah, whatever..."
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:01 PM
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38. Get the new Vanity Fair! He's on the cover!
And a SLAMMIN' interview! He's so damn bright I coulnd't believe it!!
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:17 PM
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6. I don't like or dislike people based on...
...their political affiliation until they start acting like retards about it. I don't judge celebs on their stuff unless they are grossly out spoken about it.
Duckie
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:22 PM
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12. I think I'm more inclined to admire someone I don't like..
because of the situation we're in.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:17 PM
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7. the dixie chicks
Edited on Mon Sep-15-03 05:18 PM by ann_coulter_is_a_man
thought they were ok before,

but now i worship natalie maines
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:06 PM
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27. Ditto on the Dixie Chicks
Don't like country, but these gals have b**ls--maybe some Dems in Congress could take some advice from them.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:23 PM
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13. Pia Zadora
Her commitment to animal rights ruined alot of great jokes you could make about her.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 05:56 PM
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15. I judge artists by their art, not their politics. . .
and see their politics through a prism devoid of their art. For this reason, I can enjoy the poetry of Ezra Pound and the novels of Louis Ferdinand Celine, while holding the works of Dalton Trumbo and Bertolt Brecht in equal esteem. I can also denounce Pound and Celine for their adherence to fascism, while praising the good fights of Trumbo and Brecht. Here's the dichotomy laid bare: I named my son Dalton, yet encourage him to read the Cantos.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 06:45 PM
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16. As do I. That's why I can still enjoy the music of Ted Nugent.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 07:14 PM
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19. Did dear old ted make it up to THREE chords yet?
We're all still waiting.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 08:37 PM
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21. You're not a musician... are you?
Never listened to "Double Live Gonzo", have you?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 08:56 PM
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23. Trust me, ted struggled to ADD that third chord, LOL!
He INVENTED the 3 chord tune! LOL

I hate that miserable fukc, even before he opened his trap. He was an asshole to tour with and EVERYONE hated him. Trust me on dat.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:25 PM
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25. Hmmmm; much anger and bitterness in this one there is.
Edited on Mon Sep-15-03 09:41 PM by D__S
He INVENTED the 3 chord tune! LOL

Did he now?

Tell us maestro... enlighten us; when, where, and how did Nugent
invent 3 chord rock? As much as I dislike the person, I apperciate the music.

But....

"Inventing 3 chord tunes"? LOL! Let me know when Springsteen figures out that many.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 09:58 AM
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31. Congrats D__S!! 200 posts
:toast:
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 07:48 PM
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20. June Lockhart
June Lockhart, mom on the Lassie TV show and also on Lost in Space and Petticoat Junction. A while back Larry King interviewed her (I guess it was around 1990 or so). Keep in mind this is to the best of my recollection.

In a nutshell she received an award for something she did in the 1950s. President Eisenhower presented it to her. She said that she was very happy because she was a huge supporter of Ike and was a Republican to boot. After Ikes presidency her discontent with the GOP started to grow. I think it was during Watergate that she quit the GOP in disgust, and on Larry King she didn't kave kind words to Larry about the current state of the GOP (1990ish).

I like to be a fly on the wall when she expresses her thoughts about Boy George. I can't possibly think she is impressed with him or his handlers.

I don't know if she is a democrat or not but she is on our side. I always liked her anyway.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 08:46 PM
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22. Donna Reed.
By the way, get this month's vanity fair with George Clooney on the cover. He's an incredibly great guy. That mag is the best thing out
there. They LAMBAST bush all the time. This week, they eviscerate MSNBC and that ilk.

Excellent.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:08 PM
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24. Willie Nelson
Especially for his support for Dennis Kucinich as well as the
democrats who fled the special sessions.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:50 PM
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29. I found out that Reed
very openly opposed the Viet Nam War. Very courageous of her. I'm sure she suffered alot of backlash for her campaign of peace. My opinion of her went way up.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:59 AM
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37. She and Dick Van Dyke openly marched together
against the Vietnem war. I couldn't have been happier.

One of them was a great leading lady of films and the other is still one of the great funnymen of TV.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:33 PM
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26. the dixie chicks
i wrote them off at first.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:37 PM
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41. me too!
never gave them a passing thought.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:54 PM
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30. Some people surprised me on Bill Maher's old show
Deborah Norville was very liberal, witty, and articulate on Maher's old "Politically Incorrect" show. And Patrick Duffy (of "Dallas") really spoke up against the conservatives. Who knew? And Molly Ringwald. She totally waxed the conservatives on the panel. Imagine. Getting trounced by teen princess Molly.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 10:41 AM
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34. Molly is a liberal?
Cool. I used to think she was such a hottie when I was younger.

Oh, those pouty lips....

:loveya:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 10:51 AM
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35. Molly Ringwald on "The Outer Limits"
She did an episode called "Judgement Day", about a reality show like "America's Most Wanted", except that the survivors of a murder victim got to chase and "execute" the murderer on TV. Chris Elliot played an over-the-top, evil TV programming executive.

One of their best episodes. Check their website or the Sci-Fi Channel and watch it the next time it comes on.

--bkl
John Edward, John Walsh ... what's the diff?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:46 PM
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43. Larry Hagman, too...
the cast of Dallas. who'd of thunk it.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 10:03 AM
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32. Streisand.
I had no time for her until I learned that she's a Dem.

Flame away.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:15 AM
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36. ~sigh~ Leonardo.......
really, really, don't like his acting...but - he's a progressive sort, makes a point of driving around town in one of those little Honda hybrids. Comes shopping or something here in Old Pasadena.

Leonardo story:

My daughter was walking from the Starbucks at the corner of the Macy's over to my office for a ride home, and was wearing a top that showed her shape more than she realized - she's a bit self-conscious about it, even at age 18 - and collected a couple of leers and ogles. One guy walked by, though, bandanna around head, nice looking young man she thought, and just gave her a pleasant smile. What a nice change from the leers, she thought - and then as she walked a little further she realized who the pleasant young man was, and got slightly freaked, because she doesn't care for his acting or roles much either.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:06 PM
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39. I gain affection for celebs who I find out are in PETA
Pamela Anderson--really surprised me that she was such an animal activist, and I've defended her ever since.
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:25 PM
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40. Chomsky. I used to think he was just another pretty linguist.
Edited on Tue Sep-16-03 12:26 PM by regularguy
ON edit: OK he's not exactly a democrat.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:49 PM
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44. Ed Begley Jr.!
uber-environmentalist, and made a hellova Spinal Tap drummer.

Also, Peter Reckel(sp?) - Bo from Days of Our Lives. Who'd a thunk it?
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:54 PM
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47. Bo from Days? I wouldn't' a thunk it!
:-)
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