i got the new ECW dvd

[sniffa]

and i watched disc 1 - damn good. it was offensive (not to me, but to the "moral vaLues" crowd) but not as bLoody as i hoped... aLthough i haven't watched disc 2.

highLight: "the crucifixtion".

they thought it wouLd a great idea to crucify one of the wrestLers in the ring (compLete with crown of barbed wire). i thought it was briLLiant in a bLasphemous kinda way, but they Lost some tv deaLs and kurt angLe because of it.

disappointment: did not show footage of "the mass transit incident" (googLe if you don't know it) but did discuss it and how it aLmost finished the company prematureLy.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

1. ECW! ECW! ECW! ECW! ECW! ECW! ECW! ECW!

i have not seen any ECW stuff in a few years now, it used to come on local TV acess channel late at night, but i moved :(

[sniffa]

2. i miss it

and i never got it on tv untiL it came to TNN. :(

it's a good dvd - "the rise and faLL of ecw" - i Learned an unbeLievabLe amount about the company and characters behind it (i thought i knew most of it - i was schooLed)

[SheepyMcSheepster]

3. i haven't seen much about ECW since alot of the wrestlers went to WWE

was that the end of ECW? i thought ECW basically merged with WWE? is that correct?

[sniffa]

4. ECW foLded

and vince bought it at some point. many of ECW workers were out of work for 2 years before vince hired them.

tazz Leaving, and the dudLeys Leaving did kiLL them. pauL heyman is/was a genius, but a poor buisiness man.

i know some feds tried to fiLL the void (CZW) but they're crap compared to ECW. aLthough CZW is the most insane bLood Letting i've ever seen it just seems too forced (scissor matches are nauseating; house of LightbuLb matches is over the top gimmicky).

[Beware the Beast Man]

Paul Heyman joined the WWF (I hate the "E") after ECW collapsed

And pretty much brought a lot of talent over with him. Sad, because I never really had the chance to catch ECW in its heyday of the mid-90's.

[sniffa]

23. ditto here

i just started hearing about aLL the controversies and waited with baited breath for some station to pick it up in my area. eventuaLLy, the wwf started doing some of their shit so i had to be content with that untiL the tame tnn show came.

[Beer Snob-50]

5. Sigh!

I miss the days of Russian Chain Matches, or the always popular "Texas Bullrope Matches"

[sniffa]

6. or matches using fire

not sure if ECW ever did the C4 matches (japan gimmick) but those are shocking to watch.

[flvegan]

11. With the cowbell, etc?

Wow. Aging myself here. The days of Tommy Rich and Dusty Rhodes, the Von Erichs, when the WWF competed with the NWA and AWA...

Agreed...sigh.

[Beer Snob-50]

13. Yes

with Dusty Rhodes especially. Those were the days.

[flvegan]

19. He shows up on TNA Wrestling at times, I think

Total Nonstop Action or something like that. He's aged somewhat. Same ole Dusty, though.

[AngryAmish]

30. Dusty wrestled in ECW

After he was let go by WCW. Many bloody matches with Steve Corino. I always hated Steve Corino.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

7. ever seen "Stranglemania"?

it is about the only cool thing he insane clown posse has been involved with.

if you have not seen it, it is videos of mostly japanese matches being called by ICP, and it is pretty damn funny.

[sniffa]

10. no, but i've read about it

in mick foLey's book.

i got suckered into buying the "king of death match" video... it wasn't even death match tourney, just a bunch of japanese matches - good but not what was advertised.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

12. it's definetely worth checking out

some semi fun matches in there, but the dialogue of ICP as announcers is hilarious. they give all the wrestlers made up names and and made up stories and what not. basically they just make up everything as the go along and it is pretty damn funny.

stay away from stranglemania 2 thought, not nearly as funny.

[NamVetsWeeLass]

8. EC F'n W!!!!!

New jack used to take the Garbage can to the ring... One time I saw the man Pull a Cheese grater out and start grating his opponent's face... Another time he had a Prostetic leg and was beating someone with it!!! ECW RULED And damnit I miss Joey Styles. Now we have to watch WWE, and deal with Jim Friggin Ross. I can imagine Joey doing some commentary like with say, The Undertaker.... "Oh MY GOD!!! He BURIED the guy!" Yeah, I am a Bit of a Wrestling fan ROFLMAO

[sniffa]

9. new jack is awesome

he's in jaiL at the moment (went nuts during a match and stabbed his opponent 14 times with a sickLe) because he can't afford baiL. he's auctioning off phone caLLs from prison (coLLect of course) to raise his baiL money.

there are some web sites with his most brutaL stunts on video. here's one with brutaL bumps in generaL, and new jack makes the List severaL times.

http://www.spinnersweb.freeserve.co.uk/qwert/#NEW

[SheepyMcSheepster]

15. what organisation does new jack wrestle with now?

and jeez, about stabbing people with sickles, wow. seems like an organisation would not want to mess with someone like new jack if he is going to stab people.

[sniffa]

17. it's not the first time he stabbed someone

if you googLe "mass transit incident" (with quotes) you'LL get some descriptions of it. there's even some very rare video of the event fLoating around.

basicaLLy, a 17 yo kid showed up at a house show with fake id, and a costume cLaiming to be and indy wrestLer. when a worker faiLed to show up, the kid was chosen to take his pLace. just before the match (which was to be the usuaL, bLoody, prop using match) he informed new jack that he'd never done this and that before (hoLding the pretense that he had been in the ring before) and he wasn't comfortabLe "bLading" himseLf and new jack offered to bLade him.

according to who you beLieve, new jack "accidentaLLy" cut through muscLe and arteries and the kid aLmost died.

the kid's name was "mass transit" - he weighed over 400# and eventuaLLy died a few years Later from heaLth woes, aLthough i think his famiLy cLaims depression from the incident hastened his death.

[Beware the Beast Man]

26. FOUR justifiable homicides to his record.

I remember that from "Beyond the Mat." Funny because he actually seems like a very nice guy.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

14. i made it to one ECW match, and new jack jumped from the balconey

onto another wrestler right above where we were standing ring side. what a great show.

[sniffa]

16. you're Lucky

where do you see the show? what year?

did you bring your own weapon?

i'm getting happy seeing ECDUers hear. :P

[SheepyMcSheepster]

22. hmm it was about 1999 i think?

i know it was before 2000.

the event was in raleigh, North Carolina at a place called The Ritz that usually does medium sized concerts.

what a great time. i didn't bring a weapon, but some guy from the crowd was really getting into it with the duddley boys yelling things at them, they stood toe to toe yelling in each other's faces. it was pretty funny.

i also got balls mahoney's autograph on the ticket.

Tagiri (sp?) was there too.

[sniffa]

27. tajiri

he kicks ass - i'm happy the wwe is using him fairLy weLL for his abiLities.

[Jack Schitt]

18. ECW was much better than WWE/WCW.

At least they had the guts to do stuff that you didn't see on the other two brands.

Man, when Taz first entered WWE, I was upset. They didn't use him like they should have.

[AngryAmish]

20. I went to an ECW PPV once

And a couple house shows. Easily the best wrestling fed I have ever seen.

Bonus points: From which ECW wrestler did I take my DU handle?

[sniffa]

21. no idea

spike dudLey?

or maybe one of the bLue meanie gags?

and i repeat to you, you're Lucky to go to their shows.

[slestak]

24. Roadkill?

Is that his name -- the big Amish dude? I never saw ECW until it showed up on TNN.

[AngryAmish]

29. ding ding

[SheepyMcSheepster]

25. Chickens!

[sniffa]

28. doh!

i shouLda known that. he's a big boy

[AngryAmish]

31. RVD senton!

Watch out!

[Jack Schitt]

32. Nothing better than watching the 22-month TV Champion!

Mr. Monday night!

I wish the WWE would put the title on him. :( Hell, even Rhyno deserves it. I'd even love to see Taz (yes, one z) win the title.

No chance in Hell with Triple H running the show.

[AngryAmish]

34. How he never broke his leg

jumping off the top rope kicking guys in the face is beyond me. Honestly, those sentons were amazing, especially outside of Philly no one would catch him. But when it is 420, things hurt less.

On edit: RVD will never get a title because he smokes too much.

[ThePittsburghKid]

33. The DVD was sold out everywhere I checked.

Then again, ECW was extremely popular around here. I'm not surprised. I'll have to get it on-line, I guess.

By the way, WWE has a new On Demand video service, which is apparently going to show the ENTIRE run of ECW Hardcore TV!!!

It's not available in most markets yet, but I can't wait till it we get it around here.

[AngryAmish]

35. Call me a mark -- but the Sandman was the coolest wrestler ever

Blood, sweat and beers. Yes, I am a Sandman mark.