And fuck you Godel and Heisenberg.

[Swede]

Damn brainiacs!

[still_one]

1. you have something against scientists?

That is the republican agenda

[Goldmund]

2. Bach, Goethe, Newton, Copernicus

fuck you, fuck you, fuck you!!!

And Aristotle, you're a piece of shit too.

[WindRavenX]

3. fuck you Kierkegaard!

Gawd, reading "Fear and Trembling" for Theology last year was paaainfullll....

[Merope215]

8. I didn't get it at all!!

I had no trouble with Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, or any of the rest of them. But "Fear and Trembling" was ridiculous. It did have that one great line, though: when he talks about the knight of faith, he says, "His gait is as indefatigable as the postman's." Aside from Augustine's discourses on farting in the Civitate Dei, that may be the funniest thing in Western philosophy. Just my $0.02. :P

[FreepFryer]

4. I say Ayn Rand can jam it. Also, Thomas Hobbes can go scratch.

Heisenberg was brilliant, but he was an avid Nazi who worked on an atomic bomb for the Nazis. After the war, he claimed he had done his best to slow the program, but documents released in 2002 indicate he was indeed working intensely on the project.

Gödel's political connections are less clear, but he did come to the U.S. in 1939 from Germany and got a permanent stay in '46.

[FM Arouet666]

7. See my post below

Actually he was not a member of the party, but that does not excuse his indifference to the atrocities committed by the Nazi's. You are correct, he stated after the war that he had done his best to slow research on the nuclear program. In actually, he was isolated from the scientific community and was years behind in understanding and research. The truth be known, he thought a bomb was well beyond the capacity of Nazi Germany and the rest of the world, both financially and scientifically.

Read "Hitler's Scientists" by John Cornwell. Outstanding book. Also frightening, how politics and science intermingle.

[PittPoliSci]

5. Damn him and his Uncertainty Principle!

i don't know anything else about Heisenberg though...

[FM Arouet666]

6. Interesting you mention Heisenberg

I had a respect for Werner Heisenberg in college, after studying quantum mechanics. However, I was never very sure about his place in history. He has been portrayed as a hero for passively preventing the Nazi's from attaining a nuclear device. I always suspected that this was rubbish. I read a book recently, "Hitler's Scientists" by John Cornwell. The book sheds some light on Heisenberg's role during Hitler's regime. Heisenberg was a selfish, egotistical individual, more concerned with fame than real scientific collaboration or contribution. Was he a Nazi, no, but he was guilty of indifference to human suffering, and certainly did not actively suppress Nazi attempts to develop a nuclear device. The vacuum of scientific collaboration left him out of touch with the information needed to develop one.

Not of the same ilk as other scientists, Einstein, Bohr, Pauling, Sagan, Feynman, Oppenheimer, etc etc.

Sorry, I had to reply, it is what damn brainiacs do.:evilgrin: