My ditto-head co-worker is now anti-bush, and anti-republican.

[tjwash]

:crazy: WTF is the world coming to?

Mind you, I've been working with this guy since 1998. The first time I met him, we didn't get 10 seconds into our very first conversation before the "You know this is actually Reagan's economy we are running on and not Bill Clinton's" popped out of his mouth. So yes he was sort of a lost cause.

He said is actually sorry that he ever voted for Bush, and supported this corrupt administration and that the damage being done to the country is awful. The straw that broke the camels back? The bankruptcy / credit card fiasco. He had some unfortunate medical problems, and had to go on disability, and, even with insurance, ended up over thirty thousand in credit card debt because of the bills, and the fact that disability doesn't pay squat. He is very nervous, and should be. What this is telling me, is that even the most rabid of AM hate radio listeners are starting to see that they voted against their own bottom lines, and that the lies and the misdirection from the Hannity's and O'Reilly's is just not working anymore. Reality is starting to set in with the rabid right, slowly for sure, and that maybe, just maybe the whole house of card that the bush-cabal has set up is starting to collapse.

Hey, I can dream can't I?

I told him that he should pay the money and file to homestead his house first thing, so that if worse comes to worse the bank can't take it from him. Don't know what else to tell him. I am simply trying to be supportive right now, because aside from our political opposition, we are actually good friends, and a gloating "I told you so" would just not be appropriate.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. I have the same kind of person in my life.

My best friend, who was molded by his father and Bob Grant. He is also one of the kindest, most generous and caring souls on the planet.

He did not vote for the chimp in the last election and every day, he moves farther away from any association with the pack of pirates.

It is not liberals that the chimp and repukes need to fear, it is the disaffection in their own ranks, as reality sets in and cognition awakens.

They are banking on their base being entirely without insight. That is a fool's game. It is biting them in the ass as we type and will only grow exponentially.

[Nite Owl]

2. Isn't it a shame

that so many will have to learn by experience and end up being hurt. I'm finding it a bit hard to feel a lot of sympathy for them. I know a lot was the medias fault for not getting our sides ideas out there for them but they were taken in by the hate rhetoric. The bill won't even take effect for months yet so reality hasn't even fully hit home.

[tjwash]

4. I know. We are already seeing a mad scramble to the courthouses...

...before the new laws kick in.

[Aiptasia]

3. Yep, my dad was a former sheep that towed the party line

And is now a hardcore liberal, thanks to Reagan's downsizing in the early 1980's. When he voted for Reagan, he thought Ronnie was great, and my dad worked for the USDA in California.

Then Ronnie downsized my dad right out of a job after shutting down the USDA's Los Angeles office. My dad had the choice: Retire or move back to D.C.. Luckily, he was close to retirement age and could take his federal retirement with no penalties for 10 years of military service followed by 30 years of USDA service.

I'm so glad that, internally within the GOP, there's growing dissent from people like Christie Todd Whitman, who are growing very dis-satisfied with the "hijacking" of the republican party by the religious right and/or "skull n bones" neo-con crooks.

Burn baby, burn!

[FormerDittoHead]

5. Tell him we welcome him and to check out my website!

It sounds that while our journeys took different paths, we both started and ended up at the same place...

http://www.formerrushfan.com (under construction, but it's THERE)

[Worst Username Ever]

6. Glad to have you on our side!

:hi:

[tjwash]

7. Niiiiice.

Remember the eighties, and all those religious cults that sprang up like mushrooms? People had to be deprogrammed from those also.

Kind of reminds me of this TT cartoon here:

[Wapsie B]

10. Welcome to DU!

We're all in this together. Former republican myself.

:hi:

[BillZBubb]

8. All Repugs are like that, this is no big deal.

Only after THEY are impacted do they see the light. Then their particular problem becomes the only issue. When what the right wing does doesn't immediately effect them, they don't give a shit.

That's why we won't have a real liberal renaissance in this country until the Repug economic policies really smash the overall economy. Then, once they are hurt, the sheeple will start seeing the truth. Only then.

[tjwash]

12. That's actually true of 99.99 percent of all people both...

...Liberal and Conservative. Sad but true. Human beings are a funny lot. We need to be removed from our comfort zones before we start to do anything so that we can...................return to our comfort zones.

As I said, I am being supportive of the guy right now, because that's the human thing to do. Gloating, laughing, saying he was wrong, and peppering him with "I told you so's" are something that not so liberal thinking people would do.

[BillZBubb]

15. You are TOTALLY WRONG!!!!!

99.99 percent of all people are NOT like that. 40% are like that--the wingnuts--the dyed in the wool Repugs.

Almost all liberal people are able to empathize with others. For instance, gay rights. I'm not gay, I don't have any family members that are gay, but I support the right of gays to enjoy the same legal protections as all Americans. Right wingers do not, until someone in their close circle is discriminated against, if then.

Same thing for your friend and his financial problems. I'm not saying you should gloat and say I told you so. I'm saying you should open your eyes and see him for what he really is.

[chaumont58]

9. The Bush league is bizarre

The only people that make out in the Bush league is the very rich. The dumb fuckin' fundies think they do, but they are deluded anyway. The Bush league is made up of fluff. There is no substance to it, unless you are someone like Bush, himself. There is such a Darwinist element to the face they show, but Bush, himself, is a prime example of rich people welfare in action. What has he ever done on his own, without Daddy bailing him out? Daddy got him into the Texas ANG. He was a legacy admission to the tony private school, Andover(?). He was a legacy admission to Yale. His Daddy's connections got him into Harvard Business School, bailed his ass out in his business ventures, even got him the spot with the Texas Rangers. Bush wants all to lift themselves by their own bootstraps, but that is not Bush's picture. That is Clinton's picture, more than any President of recent history. The man that is hated by the Heritage Foundation, by the Cato Institute, is an absolute god damn real American up by his own bootstraps success story. But the hard right and the beltway whores among others wouldn't piss down Clinton's throat, if his stomach was on fire.
Shit howdy, makes you glad to be a Merican!

[Vogon_Glory]

11. Reality Can Get Through To These People

I'm afraid that many current right-wingers and right-wing talk show fans can only wise up when their beliefs run aground on the rocks and shoals of the real world. Reality can get through to some of these ditto-heads in ways that our arguments and logic cannot.

For wet drunks in this situation, this is called "hitting bottom."

What worries me is that I don't know how many right-wingers will be able to see their own finances and dreams implode and consider that, just maybe, they were scammed by their fellow "conservatives" and by the Banana Republican Party.

I suspect that there are still all too many right-wingers who still haven't hit bottom.

[Wapsie B]

14. This bankruptcy law

has got to make many of them see the light if anything does. The Dems have just gotta capitalize on this.

[Vogon_Glory]

16. Should The Bankruptcy Law Enlighten Them

Should the new bankruptcy law enlighten some of the dittoheads, let's not forget to rub it in that Democratic president William Jefferson Clinton VETOED similar proposals when he was in the White House.

[graywarrior]

13. It's a shame that all liberal social programs are dwindling

just when former Bush supporters need them the most. Sounds like the entire country needs anti-depressants and therapy to deal with the disease this administration has spread.

[roguevalley]

17. I don't care how we get them, just that we do.