Do you find this artful?

[Heidi]

The first time I saw Dr. John F. Nash's Axion and Axion Schemata, I thought the way of it (the writing, the elegance, the colors) was really artful and lovely. (I'm an artist with an interest in higher math, but no real higher math skills.)

I'm certainly willing to entertain the notion that I'm just a geek. Ya'll weigh in.

[immoderate]

1. If it sells for a lot of money, it's art!

--IMM

[Heidi]

3. So, it's all about the money, huh? (nt)

[immoderate]

6. Name any great artist whose work is cheap!

I rest my case.

--IMM

[Heidi]

7. Rebuttal.

Define "cheap." You opened the door, so define it.

[immoderate]

8. Re-rebuttal

I was being sarcastic, and I can't carry it any further so you got me!:hide:

--IMM

[Heidi]

13. Sorry, IMM . . .

I was just gettin' ready to bust out my long list of great artists whose work is or was affordable. :pals:

[immoderate]

23. Sorry I missed that list.

Sometimes I teach computer beginner classes. I show them the MS Paint program. It's simple to draw and fill geometric shapes and get a pleasing design on screen. Like this:


I say, "If you can print this out and frame it, you can put it in a gallery and get twenty thousand bucks for it." It usually raises a chuckle.

--IMM

[khashka]

2. You're just a geek Heidi

but it is pretty cool.....

Khash.

[DistressedAmerican]

4. I am An Artist But, I Am Also A Dyslexic And Mathphobic!

It is kind of visualy appealing. However, any attempt by me to comprehend the contents ruins it for me.

In short, ART GEEK!

[bertha katzenengel]

5. I like to look at it.

I like the writing. I haven't a clue about what it means, but I like Nash's hand.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

9. Hey, Heidi...for me, this is not art. But Art is in the eye of the

beholder! This is the John Nash of The Beautiful Mind...That reference makes me respect the work a bit more, but I still don't really see it as art...

And, BTW, you are NOT a geek, my dear!

[short bus president]

10. I think someone

has to pee on it before it's "art."

;-)

[bridgit]

11. welcome to the world of: dr. gene oldfield...

http://www.pierogi2000.com/current.html

http://www.horsecow.com/Horse-Cow-Artists/Gene-Oldfield/GenesPage.htm

[fleabert]

14. he lives here!

cool. I may have to email him and see if he wants to have coffee sometime. seems very interesting!

[Heidi]

15. Brilliant . . .

I love language and consider mathematical formulae a language. Thank you, bridgit! "Language is a virus from outer space . . . " (WSB)

[bridgit]

24. hey there, Heidi...

patchen's 'painted poems' are of the same cloth = poetry, art...what?

beauty is beauty gf, you know that, without getting into what are snowflakes by way of, seemingly so random a notion as: chaos theory; other antique artist' have already paid those prices for daring to render so much as a mole on the princess's otherwise fair & tender cheek...we, here & now, may well be beholden to exercise the freedoms they were never afforded by way of stoic patron imo

:hi:

[Lannes]

12. Looks like Basquiat creating formulas

:)

[Heidi]

18. I like Basquit's work, too.

And how about some Cy Twombly? Here's "The Italians."

[GirlinContempt]

16. Math is a high art form

[Heidi]

19. I agree completely.

There's a mystery is math that I find absolutely engaging.

[Strawman]

17. I do, but I'll bet Tom Delay would find it inartful n/t

[Heidi]

20. That's because he has a narrow notion of what constitutes "art." (nt)

[Strawman]

21. He also doesn't know constitutes an actual word

"Inartful" was the non-word he used to describe his earlier comments condoning violence against the judges who upheld the decision to remove Terry Schiavo's feeding tube. The word "artful" reminded me of it.

My lame attempt at a joke.

[Heidi]

22. Ah, well . . .

He has much bigger problems than abuse of the English language. :hi: Strawman!

[Jara sang]

25. Those are just squiggly lines.

The math is in your head. Math doesn't really exist, it is a human concept. If those equations, written out are aesthetically pleasing, then that is art in so much that you choose to appreciate it aesthetically, the mathematics in and of itself really doesn't have anything to do with it.

[bridgit]

26. not so agreed...

http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html

[Jara sang]

28. An object is only an object

a thing is only a thing, it is human beings that give an object attributes such as "sacred" or "geometric". It is our puny minds trying to understand the universe.

[bridgit]

29. an 'apple' is an 'object'...

but it started out as a handful of seeds :shrug: without addressing just what the color of an 'apple' would be but for the frequency (which can be represented by way of mathematical equation) that denotes the color's: 'red, or 'green; artist' & mathematicians oft times endeavor to explain by way of symbolism the allegorical mystery, "sacred" "geometric" or otherwise; as to just how it is they may, or may not be perceived by the human mind as such = as, indeed, either/or; that's all.

and others think that to be a beautiful, artful process indeed :thumbsup: again...that's all ~

[eyepaddle]

27. I'd say humans are a mathematical concept mare than I would

that math is a human concept. Math is just our attempt to comprehend that which is already there.

Bernoulli's equation describing fluid mechanics of the atmosphere of Jupiter applies even though no human ever has, or ever will, be there to experience it. We don't invent math--we discover it.


Granted, once you get past Calc II it becomes pretend math pretty quick. Not that I ever got past Calc II! ;)

[Heidi]

31. I have to admit that I'm fascinated with math . . .

but passing high school trig was my highest level of achievement. There are teachers of advanced math in my family, and I am among their greatest disappointments. :rofl:

There was an article in "Wired" a couple of years ago about intelligent design and the concept that binary code expresses perfectly the infinity of "God." I found that interesting and entirely possible.

[gmoney]

30. If Heidi says it's art, it's art...

She knows of what she speaks.