Mother in law sent my 10 yr old daughter a nasty political email.

[Bouncy Ball]

Here it is:



My daughter showed me the forwarded email from her grandmother. Not only was it nasty and inappropriate to send to a 10 year old, but we teach her not to judge people based on their appearance.

I responded to my mother in law:

"This is _________. This forwarded email with horrible pictures of Democratic women bothered _________. It bothered me, too. I think it's inappropriate to send to a 10 year old and we teach her not to judge people based on their appearance. Please do not send her such emails in the future.

Thank you,
______________"

Nice enough? Now we'll see. This is the same woman whom I asked nicely four times to stop sending me stuff like that (I've never sent her political emails) and she wouldn't quit so finally when I got the one about how she wants to shoot Jane Fonda, I blocked her email address. My daughter is her only grandchild, they live far away, and I think grandparents and grandchildren should have communication and a good relationship, if possible, but this is ridiculous. My daughter told me this wasn't the first time, it was just the first one she told me about.

:grr:

[DS1]

1. OMFG We could soooo SMOKE 'theirs'

I'll start

Hell I'll even compile a retalition shot when enough pics are posted

[ghostsofgiants]

24. Fuck a compilation

That's the only one we need.

[NewJeffCT]

51. OK, a few more...

Eliza Dushku...


Lucy Liu...

[jody]

2. Sounds like you are handling a difficult family situation very well.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

[Blue Gardener]

3. Block the email

Obviously your mother-in-law has no respect for the boundaries you have established. Tell her she'll have to call if she wants to communicate with your daughter.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. She does not deserve a daughter-in-law as civilized as you. I would have

cut her off at the knees long ago.
I would let your daughter know that you want to know if she gets another note like that.
If that happens, your mother-in-law should be on the family spam list.
End of story. persona on grata.

EDIT: Maybe next time it could be your daughter who writes the note that tells her grandma that it is inappropriate for her to be sending notes of that kind to her. It would indicate that your daughter has the greater maturity, and that your daughter does not want to receive these kinds of notes from her.

[ButterflyBlood]

5. talk about extreme selectivism

Overall liberal women are FAR FAR FAR hotter than any conservatives. Just look at all the celebrities in our ranks.

[bridgit]

6. that's odd...

bo derek & janine turner the top of the vacuous republican chick ladder food chain :shrug:

[undeterred]

7. what a republican bitch

sorry :shrug:

[xmas74]

8. Why is it that, even when well made up,

the Republican women look like they couldn't trade bj's for a free beer in a bar?
I'll give them Bo Derek but the others-I wouldn't brag about them. They won't be wearing any beauty queen crowns in the future.

[ButterflyBlood]

10. a lot of those aren't even hot at all

how many guys fantasize about fucking Laura Bush?

[xmas74]

11. You know that nearly any woman could walk into a bar and

get a free beer if a man anticipates anything. Those women could not.

[darkism]

80. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[sleepyhead]

48. Have you SEEN Bo Derek recently?

She has not aged well. That picture of her must be at least 20 years old.

[xmas74]

49. I don't search her out.

[asjr]

9. She sounds like the mother-in-law from hell. That email

was not only misleading, it was subversive. Maybe she has already alienated her friends. Get a new user ID for your daughter and give it out only to her friends. That was cyber crime!

[Bouncy Ball]

16. Honestly, I'm not sure she has friends.

She lives a very isolated life and I've never once heard her mention a friend in the fifteen years I've known her. This is what she does all day: she gets up and makes my father in law his lunch, then cleans up a bit, then she goes to the beach to lay out and tan (despite the fact that she has had three melanomas removed--idiotic), she goes shopping, watches Oprah, sends forwarded emails, makes dinner, eats dinner, blah blah blah. That's her day every day. It's been that way for as long as I've known her.

Once about five years ago, she told me she was so exhausted. I asked her from what. She said just from her life. Um. Yeah. Sounds like a horribly exhausting life.

[mitchum]

90. And I take it she bitches about "layabouts and welfare queens"...

despite her own useless lifestyle?

[Bouncy Ball]

92. Well she makes fun of black womens' names, such as

LaKeisha, etc. That always burns me the hell up.

[BrklynLiberal]

12. This my image of a republican woman

[Bouncy Ball]

13. Just to be clear:

this isn't about looks to me. I could give a shit which group has more attractive women or not. That's the point--we don't teach our daughter to think that way and obviously my mother in law does think that way.

Also, we teach her to look at a person's moral compass, their insides, their actions and philosophies. The republican women all have screwy morals, if you can call them morals at all (fuck the poor, fuck women, fuck children, fuck sick people, fuck the troops, fuck Iraqis, etc.), and nasty nasty insides.

[bleever]

14. Ya know, the wicked queen in Snow White was kinda hot...

they could add her.

[Patsy Stone]

31. :)

ALVY'S VOICE-OVER
You know, even as a kid I always went
for the wrong women. I think that's my
problem. When my mother took me to see
Snow White, everyone fell in love with
Snow White. I immediately fell for the
Wicked Queen.

:hi:

[bleever]

40. I knew that I must have been channeling a high power there.

:)

[noahmijo]

15. Oh my Republican uncle sent me that about a month ago

I responded with "okay let's see here we've got Laura the boyfriend killer, Ann Coulter who should be in jail under John Ashcroft for lying on her driver's liscence, Ann Coulter who in real life is so skinny and nasty looking that even a starving person in Africa would offer her food, Michelle Malkin the internment camp sympathizer, Debbie Schlussel who gets schooled by Howard Stern of all people on a daily basis....."

Now really if you want to play who has the best looking women AND to boot they don't have criminal records or thoughts we can do that.......from Natalie Portman to Angelia Jolie....and that's just the beginning.

Now then you still haven't responsed to the links I gave you about how the neo-cons did business with the Taliban concerning the Afghan Oil Pipeline.....


He hasn't written me since...


By the way it's one thing to send that shit to someone like me or anyone old enough to really understand but to send it to a 10 year old kid is beyond fucked up...she should be cut off from being near your kid because it is YOUR child and regardless of blood ties she has no right to turn your child into a little hitler youth recruit.

[Bouncy Ball]

19. LOL!

[Maddy McCall]

17. Block her email on your daughter's account, too.

No excuse for this. If she is trying to get to you through your daughter, she is despicable.

Tell her that any future correspondence with your daughter will be through snail mail, until she can prove that she can be trusted again.

[Bouncy Ball]

21. That will be the next step.

I like to ask the person to stop first and give them a chance to do so.

I did wonder if she wasn't trying to get to me THROUGH my daughter. If so, that is even nastier. Don't drag kids into stuff. Besides that, I NEVER mention politics to my mother in law.

[deadparrot]

18. How awful.

Friends and acquaintances are one thing, but why bring kids into it?

Tell your daughter to hang in there. I'm sure she's a great kid. :)

[madrchsod]

20. set up a email account that only the

grandparents can use to email your daughter and you have the password. opera has a easy email account set-up. i use opera and netscape and both very good services. you can use the lame excuse about having problems with weirdo`s emailing your daughter...

[Bouncy Ball]

23. That's what we have now.

I know the password. Her grandparents and her best friend are the only three people who know her email address.

[acmavm]

22. No Mary Cary? She epitomizes the whole female republican experience

.

[elehhhhna]

64. Where is Karen "Moose Cholock" Hughes' glamorshot?

[BiggJawn]

81. "Yukon Moose" Cholock....

Now THERE'S a golden goodie blast from the past!

[Ikonoklast]

25. And yet Lucifer, Prince of Light

was the most beautiful of all God's creations.

[Bouncy Ball]

29. LOL, good point!

[BikeWriter]

26. I would be so pissed off...

[Sydnie]

27. You were much more civil than I would have been

If you have already stopped her from sending this type of email to you, then she is not concerned with what you think, IMHO. She would, most likely, care what her son thought of her and her actions though.

Perhaps it is time to get HIM to to address the boundaries of communication with her grandchild. If he makes it clear what HIS family values are, and requests that she respect them or be relegated to a less than desired influence on HIS child, one to be avoided when possible. She will get the message and either change her expressions of this type to your daughter, or she will lose out on the relationship altogether, by her own hand.

In the event that he is not comfortable doing that, then I think you handled it as diplomatically as you could have. Next time, take the gloves off and make sure she understands where the line in the sand is.

Good Luck!

(What a nasty thing to send to a child that is obviously being raised in a Democratic household. Totally unbelievable!)

[Bouncy Ball]

28. I am going to talk to him about it later tonight and

see how he feels about approaching it if she does this again. He is too interested in keeping the peace and not saying anything sometimes, but this one pissed him off. I just happened to write the email.

It doesn't matter anyway. Even if he sent an email, she would think *I* did. He'd have to call her on the phone and that's what we'll talk about tonight. He did also say if she does it again, her email address will be blocked and she will know she can write our daughter through snail mail.

Why would you want to jeopardize your relationship with your only grandchild, though? Makes no sense.

[Sydnie]

32. She obviously think you two are doing the wrong thing

that's why she took the chance that your daughter wouldn't tell you about it. Perhaps she feels she missed the boat with her own kids and doesn't want to make the same mistake with her grand daughter. "There's still time to save her" ... know what I mean?

It could even be as simple as trying to get a reaction out of you, couldn't it? She still gets her message to you if your daughter tell you about it. A way to get under your skin, hedging her bets that your husband will be more interested in keeping the peace with her than supporting your anger. Does she know anything about your husbands political leanings at all? Does she think all this "liberal" thinking is your doing and not that he actually thinks that way himself?

[Bouncy Ball]

35. She's knows he's liberal, ironically she RAISED him to be that way!

She always taught him to think for himself, to question things, to stand up for what's right, she protested the war in Vietnam (before her husband went), etc. She didn't believe in cutting his hair when he was little unless HE wanted it cut, she taught him that the human body is nothing to be ashamed of, that sex and birth are beautiful things, etc.

In other words, she was pretty liberal herself.

Then she decided money is the #1 most important thing in her life. And after 9/11 she got all fundie and freeper-like. She has definitely done a 180 from her younger days.

So yeah, she knows he feels the same way. Honestly I think she just has a nasty streak a mile wide. I never saw it the first few years, but I've been seeing it quite a bit in the last five years or so.

[Sydnie]

47. That's just mean then

My aunt did the same kind of "turn around" in her later years too. Even though she was never what I would have considered a liberal, she was much more moderate when she was younger. Now, she is just what we call "a mean old bitty". She is faced with her own mortality and is not the spry chick she used to be. The older she gets the more nasty, mean, and manipulative she gets. She is the oldest of five siblings and the last remaining one too. She used to command a great deal of respect in the family. Now she tries to demand it, but it doesn't get her very far. We have almost all written her off as a total loss cause. She will die alone (with only her one child to notice) and lonely because of the choices that she has made.

It's sad really. I watched the progression and it was more than I could stand.

I wish you luck. Be sure to let us know what happens when you talk to your husband. He may hold the key to stopping it. He can hold a mirror for her that you can't.

[elehhhhna]

61. She is lonely, bored and afraid.

And dementia could be setting in, also. Seriously.

[Bouncy Ball]

69. We've wondered about that, just because her personality

has changed so much in the last decade or so. She was a very different person when I met her.

[Kerrytravelers]

94. Possibly going senile?

You can't be in your right mind and be a fundie rethug? :)

[hfojvt]

42. just imagining things

but if I did have grandchildren, it would practically kill me to see them brought up as neo-con fundies. I would feel that I had failed in my own son's education. I take my political views pretty seriously. However, I would not stoop to personal attacks about the way Ann Coulter looks, or Jeanne Kirkpatrick ot Barbara Bush for that matter. It is about ideals and principles, for one thing, rather than personalities, and for another thing, cheap shots do not make for solid arguments.
edit: not to mention that I would be throwing stones from a glass house.

[Bouncy Ball]

44. LOL!

Yeah, I mean of course it would bother anyone who feels strongly about their political views.

But on the other hand, why trash up your relationship with your grandchild over it? That's what has me scratching my head. I just wouldn't do that!

[hfojvt]

53. I hope a relationship can survive political squabbles

As one of 14 and 33 grandchildren whose grandparents were 550 and 1500 miles away I am not sure what a relationship to a grandparent/grandchild should be like. I remember following the 1972 Presidential election at the age of 10. First I was for McGovern (because I saw alot of his yard signs around town). Then I saw him on TV saying that the space program was a waste of money. That was kicking my sacred cow, so I became a Nixon fan.

Anyway, I am not sure it would bother me to talk politics with my grandparents even at the age of ten. I sure followed it, even if my understanding was not very sophisticated.

[friesianrider]

95. Yeah, and...

What exactly is she hoping to accomplish by sending it to a 10-year-old? She likely isn't all THAT into politics, but even if she is does this MIL think she's going to turn your daughter into some Hitler Youth? Especially when she knows your political leanings, it is not only inappropriate but just plain tacky as well.

[LynneSin]

30. Tell Grandma to either stop with the emails or her address will be blocked

Or you could do what I did when I had a relative-in-law send me that crappy email of the 50 people the Clintons had 'killed'. I found five different links (including snopes) that debunked the email and I hit REPLY ALL which sent that reply to the boss, the co-workers and other family members.

The relative was pissed but I told her that I didn't not appreciate that garbage being sent to me. I also mentioned that if future emails were sent bcc: (blind carbon copy where you don't know who else got a copy) I would simply forward all debunks to the same addresses from the Clinton/50 people email.

That nipped the problem right there on the spot.

And seriously - send her back pictures of Lucianne Goldberg, Linda Tripp and Phylis Schafley to name a few. And Laura Bush is about as attractive as my feet after a 5 mile hike!

[warrior1]

33. Yea ours!!

I don't know who the last lady is.

[Kat45]

34. Nancy Pelosi. n/t

[warrior1]

38. no no

I know the next to the last lady is Nancy, I was talking about their vulgar poster.

[bleever]

46. The last one is Susan Estrich. She managed the campaign

for Dukakis.

[Pool Hall Ace]

36. That's disgusting. An idiot sent me that e-mail last month.

I replied, "Where's Condi? Don't you acknowledge women of color?"

I guess they don't.

[Bouncy Ball]

37. Actually, when my daughter told me about this email we were in the

car and I asked her, "was there a picture of Condi Rice?" and she said "No, only white women."

Well, of course.

:eyes:

[Redstone]

39. Send her THIS fine example of Republican womanhood:

Redstone

(Credit: DS1.)

[Bouncy Ball]

45. LMAO!!

I love the dotted "L."

:rofl:

[LisaL]

76. What a beauty! She is breathtaking!

And what a cute little blue dress she got on.
:rofl:

[Left Is Write]

41. I'm not even sure what to say to that.

Her point is.....? Republicans think looks are the most important thing? Republicans are able to catch Democratic women in unflattering poses and therefore that makes them somehow superior? Republicans believe that what's on the outside is more important than what's on the inside?

That's what I'd ask her. I'd ask her what point she was trying to make.

[all.of.me]

43. that's awful

i hope you can straighten her out. maybe your husband should talk to her, since it's HIS mother. how about if your daughter said something? if all else fails, block her addy.

[Arkana]

50. Didn't we make up a compilation of the hottest Dems once?

I think you should send that back to her, then cut her off. What an immature bitch of a MIL you have.

[Atlas Mugged]

52. How petty

The grandmother should be ashamed of herself for engaging anyone, much less a child, in such silly crap. Take a bunch of unflatterering, candid shots of one group and compare them with strip mall glamour shots of another group. This reminds me of the Aryan Nation "Black Beauty Queens". If you don't know what I'm talking about, you're not missing anything. And, if you do, you know how it applies here.

[sundog]

54. your reaction was tame

my reactions when pissed tend to be a little more colorful :P

i would do something like email the pics a bunch of liberal beauts with "fuck you" written in the subject line...

but i understand she is your mother in law, so you reaction was actually well thought & appropriate :)

[Bouncy Ball]

55. I didn't want to give her ANY ammunition.

She and my sister in law already love to play this "oh look how evil and horrible and wicked she is" game but I don't give them any evidence, EVER, to support that position, so they just look silly.

[sundog]

65. that's right...

i never willingly give ammo to those i KNOW will use it against me...

yeah... it pays to step back, evaluate & plan an effective strategy :)

[Nikia]

56. It isn't nice to bash political women for their appearance anyway

Political women are doing an important job that has nothing do with their appearance. Some might say that looking good would help them get elected, but it still has nothing to do with how they do their job, how intelligent they are, or their character.
She was wrong to bash political women for their appearance, regardless of her politics, especially to a 10 year old girl who may be insecure about her appearance now or within the next few years.

[Bouncy Ball]

57. I would go a step further and say

that in ANY job where appearance isn't part of it (ie: modeling) appearance shouldn't matter. Which is why we are teaching her that.

Sending that to her was just vile.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

58. I'm sorry, this is a pointless and juvenile thing to send to a 10-year old

And your MIL should not be interfering with the way that you are trying to raise your children –especially if she knows what your political beliefs are. Did she send this e-mail to your daughter as a one-on-one thing or did she do it as part of a general forward. Either way, I do wonder what she is trying to teach her granddaughter –to judge people on looks rather than anything else?

[Bouncy Ball]

59. She forwarded it only to her.

Well, hers was the only address we could see, anyway. Maybe she's finally figured out blind copy, LOL.

And yes, she most definitely knows what our beliefs are. But only because she started sending me the same nasty crap some time in 2002 and I kept telling her we don't agree with it and asking her to stop. I finally blocked her email address right after the election.

[elehhhhna]

63. Send her a pic & story story of Sibel Edmonds. VIOLA!

MIL's head explodes.

[Bouncy Ball]

68. Going to google her.

I've seen her picture, but I have no idea who that is.

[elehhhhna]

60. Grandma should catapult the propaganda elsewhere.

Cripes what a goober.

[Bleacher Creature]

62. My first thought . . .

was that you should compare the two lists in terms of intelligence, sanity, etc. I mean Clinton, Reno, Albright are EACH brighter than their entire list combined. And also, half their list is either certifiably nuts, or just hugely racist. And finally, what's with that trollish Repuke in the lower right hand corner????

My second thought -- don't even dignify this crap with an answer. Which makes your response email PERFECT, and much more dignified than I would have sent -- and I'm a GUY!

[Elidor]

66. You're too nice

A grandmother is a creature that lives and breathes for only ONE PURPOSE: to see her grandchildren.

I'd put it to her plain: Cut this shit out or you'll never see her or communicate with her again. This will strike at the very heart of even the sternest republican grandma.

[Bouncy Ball]

71. My mom did that to my grandparents

and while, in that case, my mom was wrong and my grandparents were right, I always tend to think of such things as a last resort option. And they live 1000 miles away, so it's not like she's around them much, anyway. We're going to see if she does this again. I've told my daughter to show me any other political/nasty emails.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

67. An interesting point...

Nearly every one of ours is a genuine political figures (Babs aside). Most of theirs are figures in the so-called "liberal media."

I'll take the intelligence from our side vs. the false beauty of their side. Any day.

And Madeline Albright is a hottie. She winked at me on a street in Georgetown back in '96.

[GOPisEvil]

70. Nice lesson she's teaching a child: that looks matter more than brains.

Yeah, that's EXACTLY the kind of message a young girl needs to be reading.

That's how I would frame the argument if it comes to that.

[Bouncy Ball]

72. Hey you!

Yeah, good point. I really don't give a crap what any of those women look like anyway. What matters to me is totally different.

I took a LONG ass nap this afternoon, I was so exhausted! Thanks again!

[GOPisEvil]

73. I never left the house today!

I was a total slug.

You're welcome!

[proud2BlibKansan]

74. This is just terrible

Why in the world would she think this email is appropriate for a 10 year old??

My family gets on my nerves sometimes but I am very lucky that at least they are all Dems.

I do have an ex bro in law I am not sure about. He is rarely even pleasant to me so I don't care what his politics are. But I have always been sure he is a puke.

[Ithuilwen]

75. Ann Coulter = attractive???

:shrug:

[Book Lover]

77. Communication doesn't have to be via email

Thank goodness I don't have nasty in-laws; I would do some highly inappropriate things had my child come to me with this story. Stick to cards and letters, IMHO. Sorry you have to deal with this.

[Bouncy Ball]

79. That'll be the next step if this doesn't stop.

The occasional phone call and snail mail. It'll be her choice.

[El Fuego]

78. :mad: :mad: :mad:

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[hyphenate]

82. Oh come on now!

So many puke women are just plain ugly!

Coulter, Babs, Laura, Noelle, Phyllis Schafly, Lucianne Goldberg, Malkin--I'm just getting the top of the iceberg here!

Serve it up and dish it out!

[Bouncy Ball]

83. I don't care if they are ugly, that's not the point to me.

The point is no one should be sending this shit to a ten year old, the point is we teach her NOT to judge based on appearances and that's all that email is about.

Sure, I could send her back a huge email filled with tons of pictures of beautiful Democratic women. I could send horribly ugly pictures of repuke women.

But again, that's not the bigger point here.

[hyphenate]

86. I understand

but I also know that for some the shell is more important than the nut inside. What you need to do is something along the line of:

Hillary Clinton: Intelligent, warm, funny AND beautiful--INSIDE AND OUT.

Elizabeth Edwards: Beautiful, highly intelligent, compassionate AND passion.

Theresa Heinz-Kerry: Warm, beautiful, philanthropic, determined AND intelligent.

Stress that Democratic women have ALL the characteristics which make them far more than Repuke women could ever be.

Yes--the key is to show Grandma that sending out this kind of propaganda to your daughter is only alienating her from her granddaughter. Point out that this kind of sleaze is counterproductive, and that any more of it will precipitate in ruining all the good will you THOUGHT was between the two of them. Stress that political "games" for a child of that age is simply wrong--I know at 10 there were many things I cherished, but politics was NOT one of them.

Tell her you will censor her mail to your daughter until such time as grandma can actually talk about things which the daughter enjoys. I think she will get the picture.

[hyphenate]

84. Oh and don't forget Alyssa Milano

who was at the DNC!!

For you boys out there, I can share a few of my collected Charmed series pictures.

[ironflange]

85. Beauty is only skin deep

But ugly goes right down to the bone.

This is a good example of this.

[Maestro]

87. I sympathize with you BB

My uncle and I rarely talk. He's drunk on kool-aid most of the time and a racist. You were far too nice. I would have lost it.

[mitchum]

88. Tell the old bat to fuck off and die

[Bouncy Ball]

89. LMAO

Nope, no ammo. I am NOT handing ammunition to her. I kill them with kindness because they WANT me to be nasty so they can say "SEE???"

But I will not hesitate to block her email address from our daughter if she gets another nasty email like that.

[iconoclastic cat]

91. I keep trying to deny it, but I think this country really is going insane.

Does anyone else wonder if this is some kind of virus or something? Mass hysteria? Weird. It's like the TV miniseries, "V." We're all on the plate.

[Gemini Cat]

93. Grandma needs to find a new hobby.

Maybe working in a soup kitchen, or visiting shut-ins, or planting roses in a park. Grandma needs to do something to keep her idle hands busy and her mind filled with something positive and worthwhile, other than terrorizing ten year olds.

[Name removed]

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[GOPBasher]

97. Wow, there's some Christian family values for you, huh?

:eyes: