haha, green bay: 0-4!!!!!!!!!!!

[charlie and algernon]

as a niner's fan, i've been so looking forward to the packer's having a sucky season!

[UrbScotty]

1. The Lions are 1.5 games up on them!

:D

[KitchenWitch]

2. LOL

Makes the Vikings loss this week a little easier to swallow.

[Fox Mulder]

3. You mean the Vikings are better than the Packers???

DAYUM!

NFC North really sucks this year!

Here are the standings for NFC North:

Chicago: 1 - 2
Detroit: 1 - 2
Minnesota 1 - 3
Green Bay 0 - 4

:rofl:

[nickinSTL]

30. heh, yeah, my mom said yesterday, after the Vikings' loss...

that Chicago would likely win the division with a record of 5-11! :rofl:

heh...she's a Vikings fan...I'm a Bears fan :evilgrin:

[hfojvt]

4. I grew up with the Packers having sucky seasons

when the Niners were a dynasty with Joe Montana. Why should Niners fans have it in for the Packers? It was not the Packers who knocked the Niners out of the playoffs because a ref called a fumble 'down by contact'.
And Niners fans can hardly gloat so far this year. They may be 1-3 but they just gave Arizona their first victory by an 18 point margin. Plus as far as I am concerned the zebras basically gave the game to Tampa Bay last week. A fumble the Packers recovered was ruled an incomplete pass, a 7 yard pass that the Packer receiver clearly caught was ruled a trap and that made the field goal try that much longer, and it missed.
Anyway, Niners fans and Packer fans should be friends, because we have a common enemy - the nefarious Dallas Cowboys.

[xmas74]

10. Thank you.

I can remember the same thing. And that Tampa game pissed me off.

[Obiepup]

5. During the 1980's the Packers were down

Now the 49ers are down.

[charlie and algernon]

7. yes, but now we're both down

so it makes the niner's sucky season all the easier to take

[HuskerDU]

6. Yes its's your first place Chicago Bears!

Whoever said the winnner of this division would go 5-11 could be on to something. Regardless... Go Bears!

[nickinSTL]

31. heh...see my post above....

don't know who else might have said it...but my mom did!

[Zomby Woof]

8. It is sweet, indeed

Silences the cheeseheads for a while!

[charlie and algernon]

9. yuppers

it's gonna be fun here at home as my brother is a die hard cheesehead (yes, he even has one).

[xmas74]

12. Won't silence me for a while.

That's the difference w/ Packer fans and all the others. We love them whether they are having a good season or a bad season. Our blood runs green and yellow.

[Zomby Woof]

14. You see?

That is the kind of elitist nonsense ("Packer fans and all the others") I make fun of Packer fans for. You assume you are the only loyal fans in the game.

Got news for you... most of us are the same about our teams too. Who could imagine?

[xmas74]

16. I know alot of people who are not.

I know of way too many people who jumped on board when the Packers were doing well and left when they weren't. These are the same fans who jumped on w/ Dallas as "America's Team", NE for the same reason and so on.
You and I both know that there are so many who will jump on a bandwagon when someone is popular. They are the same people who will make fun of them when they do poorly. Packers fans are known as diehard fans-we have a rich history. We can't help but to be proud of it. The bandwagon people are the ones I make fun of-not the diehard fans of any team(except for the Chiefs-I live close by and it tends to be easy pickins).

[Zomby Woof]

19. We agree on bandwagoners

And as I said last night, the Packers have a ton of them (I know you are a real fan, as are some others). I remember when the Niners, Giants, and Broncos attracted their fair share in the 80's and 90's.

My team, although they won the AFL championship in '63, has only been in one Super Bowl and didn't win. But that has zero effect on my loyalty. I can't abide fair-weather fans.

[xmas74]

25. We can definitely agree on that.

I refer to Packer fans since I am one. But it sounds like you and I have the same problem w/ fair-weather fans. I can respect someone who is a fan through thick and thin, whether it is my team or not. I just can't stand the bandwagoners! They make me feel like most football fans nowadays refuse to pick a team and side w/ them.
As to me being a Packer fan I feel that I had no choice. I was born in WI, as was most of my immediate and lengthened family. One of those things that's in your blood at birth(except for one cousin. She turned traitor and now roots for the Bears). I think that happens alot in certain areas-especially when the team is a very old team.

[Zomby Woof]

26. If I was born there

I would certainly be a Packer fan.

As it stands, I was born in San Diego, and I have suffered and celebrated over 30 years with them. :-)

[xmas74]

28. I know how you're feeling, I really do.

It's both when you are a longtime fan. When they win you're on top of the world. When they lose it's like a punch in the gut.
Why can't I be one of those women who hate sports in general?

[LynneSin]

11. As an Eagles fan our 3rd string still whooped niner ass!!

I'm just saying!

[charlie and algernon]

13. yeah, i know, hehe, see post #7

at least the niner's still have hope of at least finishing 8-8. it just makes our suckiness all the easier to take if the packers are in the same boat.

[LynneSin]

15. Yeah but I still love saying it

:D

[charlie and algernon]

17. hehe, sure

you do have an ally, though, as the niners have been absent from the playoffs the last few years, the eagles have been my playoff team. i feel its my duty as a Pennsylvanian. I'm still waiting for an all-PA superbowl, which would be awsome.


of course don't ask me to root for the phillies, i hate them as much as i hate the yankees, if not more.

[LynneSin]

18. I'm actually not a Phillies fan, been a Reds fan since I was just a kid

which was decades ago! ACK!

[charlie and algernon]

20. hehe, well then you've picked up some brownie points

what made you pick the reds? did you used to live out there?

I chose the marlins back in 1993 when i went to a phillies-marlins game and decided that i'd root for the marlins and have stuck with them ever since.

[LynneSin]

23. First game I ever watched was Phillies vs Reds

and for some reason I picked up cheering on the REds. This was back in the 70s but before the back-to-back World Series wins. To be honest, I've given up on baseball because of all the heartbreak that went with all those strikes. I remember in 1981 the Cincinnati Reds had the best record in baseball but because of the split season due to the strike, the Reds ended up not going to the playoffs. Stuff like that makes your heart weep when you're just a kid.

I know that strikes are inevitable in professional sports but at least football has managed to avoid anything major since the season with the scabs. I can't even get excited about watching hockey this year and I was the biggest Flyers fan

[charlie and algernon]

24. i wonder how many others

go to a phillies game and choose to root for their opponent? lol

I guess that i'm lucky in that i was too young, or wasn't born yet, to remember any of the big sports strikes. I've never been a big hockey fan, so their strike really did affect me and i don't really plan on watching any games. I think though that it may be time to an all-sports conference. where represenatives from all the major sports gather to address the issue of salaries. try to get a uniform system in place.

[Bluzmann57]

21. Yeah I guess we know how the niners fans must feel often

We don't like it one bit either. Well, the Pack has had one (yes one) losing season since 1992. No other team in the NFL can say that. It is due to #4, mostly.

[charlie and algernon]

22. we've been numbed by the last 6 years

with only one winning season during that time :cry:

of course before that we went to playoffs every year in the 80's-90s

[fishnfla]

27. Nobody is happier than Paul Tagliabue

Its no secret that the NFL front office abhors the GBP because they are publicly owned by the people and the city of GB. The other NFL fat cat owners constantly are harping the commisioner about this situation, because other communities may want to do the same thing and take profits out of one man's pocket.

Their recent success has driven the NFL powers that be crazy: the one thing they fear besides "communist ownership" is a small town team doing well (because of TV viewership and contracts).

I am not a tinfoiler, but the Packers have been on the recieving end of horrific officiating in every game this season. To be sure, they have made plenty of mistakes, but its hard to beat the other team AND the refs.

I would almost say its a conspiracy, but the officiating this year has sucked in so many other games too.

[Wapsie B]

29. Well to that I say

that any team that takes a dime of taxpayer $$ for land, stadium or whatever should constitute public ownership of that team. If the operation is not 100% financed by that owner majority control is turned over to the taxpayers of that area.

[Zomby Woof]

32. The NFL is already socialistic

They have revenue-sharing (the only pro sports league to have it), making market size a moot point. If they really cared about abolishing Green Bay, they would have done so years ago. Green Bay is solvent only because of revenue-sharing. Yes, it does reduce the market share of larger cities, but not by enough to threaten them in any noticeable way.

I love telling Green Bay fans this, because it drives them crazy, and shoots the conspiracy theories about the NFL hating them all to hell.

As long as the NFL can market that dead fascist Vince Lombardi and his image, they will keep Green Bay around forever. You can't have successful marketing without myth. Green Bay is an important myth to the NFL - they were around at the beginning - so they are safe, no matter who owns them.

[fishnfla]

35. Revenue sharing is why the NFL owners hate small markets

They dont feel that lesser markets should get the same piece of pie as larger cities.
There is only one publicly owned professional sports franchise for a reason. The fat cats fear more, and will do anything to stop it.

Also, one of the NFL's biggest fears is having a Wisconsin NFC Championship game in late January. They dont want the weather to spoil their generic domed games. Everytime the Packers make the playoffs, they make an issue of this

Vince Lombardi was a Kennedy Democrat BTW. Loved RFK. His wife, though
was a Nixon freeper.

[fishnfla]

33. The public is wising up to that

In Miami and in Orlando there is strong resitance to brazilianaire owners getting their product subsidized by the local taxpayers in order to build new stadiums

To be fair, even in GB, when they went to refurbish Lambeau with a tax hike, people balked. They held a referendum and it passed but not without a fight.

[Wapsie B]

34. All those financial goodies going to fat-cats

are one good reason to live out here in the sticks. If I lived 40 miles north I'd most likely be forced to pay a tax hike for the Twins and Vikings.

[RetroLounge]

36. Damn, as a Bears fan I've been dreaming of this

for over a decade.

Brett Favre Retirement Tour, '05! There is a god...

MVP = More Vicodin Please.

Go Bears!

RL

[Fox Mulder]

37. Green Bay may be 0-4, but at least they know how to score points...

unlike the damn Vikings. :grr: :argh: