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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 05:37 PM
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Poll question: What do you Hate most about Thanksgiving??
Come on... you know there is something that irritates you about this day!
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 05:40 PM
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1. Only Turkey to eat for the following week
cause you just cant waste it.....
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 05:45 PM
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2. The dagnabbed, cotton-pickin'
DISHES!

This one, innocuous, lovely, family-intensive meal manages to use up every last cooking utensil in the kitchen . . . twice, and yet the ladle's nowhere to be found.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 01:28 AM
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16. I second the "dishes" motif
It seems like it's never ending! How can 22 people use 60 plates?
I'll be doing the "good" glasses well into tomorrow!
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 07:10 PM
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8. Yeah Turkey Suprise gets old too.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 06:07 PM
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3. I wish everyone would calm the f down!
We're not building a nuclear bomb.

WE'RE BURNING A DEAD TURKEY, OKAY?

lol

"Frankly, I'd rather be in Philidelphia."

(Hey, The Magistrate, I finally got the quotation right. And, they said I was unteachable. lol)

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tonyraytx Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 06:14 PM
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4. How about

The lame ass Halftime show in both football games. What with the fake ass crowd noise?
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 02:32 AM
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18. It was OK with Sheryl Crow this year
but only 13 minutes? That sucks..and the ballet minstrels with the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and cheerlettes to be...that was stupid

Otherwise...

I like being with my spouse and relaxing. My brother decided sometime ago because of his spouse to have T-giving with her family; and it works for them. What works for me and my spouse is not to travel, and if we want to go out for T-giving Dinner, that's fine with us. I dislike the hype my mom put on holiday occasions as she busted her tail to make the dinners, made sure we ate them in 25 minutes, including dessert, then wanted to have left overs so she wouldn't have to do anything for a couple of days. Unfortunately, she also didn't feel particularly appreciated, and the holidays were just too much for her, if she wouldn't admit it.

My sister gets too roused if one of us siblings and spouses are around too because she feels expectations.

Therefore..I like NOT having to travel for T-giving (airports are monsterous as well), and just not having any expectations. Generally I see my mom around the first week of November, and I think it is better for moi.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 06:19 PM
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5. My too-small kitchen!
Mr. SG is actually doing the majority of cooking, but just a second ago, he asked me to put out some munchies. Well, I tried but MIL was mixing up some dip, Mr. SG was checking the turkey in the oven, my FIL came wandering through looking for whatever, and I was trying to figure out how I was going to get into the silverware drawer, which my MIL was standing in front of. I gave up! I'll wait for the inlaws to clear out of the kitchen.

This is why SeattleGirl hates to go near the kitchen when Mr. SG in in there cooking, and MIL is also in there. (Though I am mighty grateful that Mr. SG loves to cook as much as he does!)

Gotta go! The kitchen is empty for a sec! :silly:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 06:23 PM
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6. I once cooked a TG meal in an old Airstream
with a two burner hotplate and a microwave oven.

That's when I knew I would survive a North Korean attack on the Left Coast.

:rofl:

Have fun, Seattle Girl!

:hi:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 07:08 PM
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7. I bow in your general direction!
You definitely have me beat! And thanks for the laugh -- I really needed it! :rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 07:14 PM
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9. Had to pull the turkey into the trailer SIDEWAYS!
:rofl:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 07:20 PM
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11. Bwahahahaha!
:spray: You got me!
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:51 AM
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45. Ya made me smile at that visual!
:)
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 07:18 PM
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10. Now THIS is my kinda poll
but there is no option for EVERYTHING
or all of the above and more.

This will definitely be a bad day if Dallas wins too. x(
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 12:55 AM
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12. Having to work after all of the festivities
I eat, drink and get a good buzz on , then I have to sober up so I can go to work! :mad: :wtf: fun is that?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 01:01 AM
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13. The lets' interrogate the vegan thing but this year we did religion and my
relationship prospects, too. :banghead:
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 01:01 AM
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14. The 25 mile drive there.
Funny thing is the same 25 mile drive home Christmas night is one of my favorite times of the year. I think it's the relief.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 01:08 AM
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15. Watching my mom get into stupid arguments with the same people
She got into a huge fight with her brother, with the guy saying she owed him $1500 (he's rich, we're not) and my mom saying he stole this stupid picture we have no room in the house for anyways.

Then when I was like "That's it, we're leaving," everyone acted like *I* was the one getting bent out of shape.

I hate having my mom ruin family get togethers. I never get to see my cousins because my mom can't keep her damn mouth shut. :(
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 01:43 AM
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17. Stealing the Turkey
It always seems to involve a police chase and me buying a new coat
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:42 PM
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21. I love your picture!
That is why penguins and polor bears live at different ends of the earth
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 02:45 AM
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19. being berated by my entire family for 3 hours straight
just grinning and nodding...
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:34 AM
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27. well you would be welcome anytime at our house!
there is little or no berating... and usually a lot of Rep. bashing. And lots of good beer and wine. ;)

I really don't understand why people/families don't take the opportunity to find out what cool things people are doing at family gatherings, rather than lecturing them about what they should do.

This year we bored people a little with our SF vacation DVD.


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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:53 AM
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32. always better than the "why aren't you a pharmacist" chat
thanks :-) that really means a lot to me, B. :-)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:49 PM
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40. well, all families tend to go on a bit
I'm sure my kid thinks I go on a bit. ;) I can't even begin to see what he would want to be when he grows up, he has so many qualities that are like G and me. I told him he shouldn't do what I do,though;
he seems much more interested in the computer side of things.

Yeah, why do they think that being a pharm. would be better than what you plan to do? Sorry, going into analysis mode. :oops:

Well, you can tell me over coffee sometime....:)
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:01 AM
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43. i have two cousins that are pharms.
they are rich beyond belief. all my parents (and my cousins) care about is money. i could give a shit about money, i just want to make a decent living not based on the blood of people who can't afford their medication.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 05:17 AM
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20. Boyfriend coming over an hour late
then having an obnoxious attitude and continually trying to start an argument. I feel all worn out, thank God this holiday only comes once a year and it is over with for 365 days (or so)!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:46 PM
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22. Well, nothing, actually. I pretty much like the Thanksgiving, and if
there's an aspect or component of it that's not optimal, I don't let it bother me.

Remembering to be thankful for what (and who) I have and enjoy, rather than bitching about what I don't, and all that.

But that's just me. Other opinions may vary.

Redstone
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:40 AM
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35. my opinion is in line with this one
I like all holidays really
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:52 PM
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23. The false illusion of a family that cares
It is PC to sing heralds to the family unit, marriage and many progeny,
as that is the future body politic, and all that politics is interested
in. So false family, if it creates fucking, and uncontrolled pregnancy
is politically good, and we then are slapped with the bullshit false
sense of security in family, marketed by media, as state authoritarian
"family" day, and i cannot issue feelings on command, so rather it is
a day of doing trivial cleanup of the garage cubord.

My thanksgiving dinner, is a pizza, shared with all the dogs.. fuck
the pilgrims. Fuck harvest day. Thanksgiving is giving the addicted
prostitute you sleep with on thursday an extra tip of 100 bucks for an
abortion. Thanks for all the giving, peace brother.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:56 AM
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30. Bitter, much?
I'm really sorry that you're so miserable. I'm being serious here, not trying to give you a hard time.

But I'd strongly suggest you get some counseling. Living with such hatred for the world can't be much fun.

Redstone
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:59 AM
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34. Thanks
I captured a feeling i've felt. When i've felt that bad, was when i was homeless, so i can write the feeling, by going there without going there,
if you know what i mean. So thank you for your counselling advise for
my bitterness.

But i think remembering that bitterness is critical to my political
common sense today. I can genuinely recall, wishing that the russians
would fucking attack, and clean up the continent with a nuclear war.
Mine would be clean death as a bystander if i were vaporized with the
republican congress, or whatever city they attacked, just because the
white men, and their deadening car society would be checked. I totally
understand why 1000's of young persons committ suicide, taking the
utter uglyness of modern life in to their inner life, and departing.
I understand why those who are more angry about it do it with suicide
bombs. What does a society expect, that threatens its own poeple with
nuclear annihilation, by the proliferation of weapons IT created, and
a global armaments industry that is the basis of oursociety, as much
as people can pretend its goodwill. I'm distrustful totally, yes,
as i don't see any goodwill... not in your good self Redstone, but
in the empire per se, and its anachronisms.

So i put all that in to a poem. I had a great thanksgiving, pizza
with the dogs. Everyone got a scratch and the pack drank a gallon
of milk. The dog pack was very thankful for all the giving.

But yes, i think of a thanksgiving living in a pickup truck, one
with good canned fish and crackers, and i was happy to have a home
and food. I've no complaints mate. That said, i find the cutlure
at large to be institutionally gray, broken, and after being attacked
by my religious group in mainstream media decided to leave, sick of
supporting a culture that is so fucking loathesome.

And much of that pent up feelings, of being a libertarian progressive
in today's megacity culture... feeling that the toxification of the
planet is inevitable, until every place on earth is 120 decibells from
jetskis, motorcycles, cars, lawnmowers, tractors, ships and aircraft.

peace,
:-)

But i have too much to love, so i have other places to feel very positive
nice vibes, the way i live today. But i can remember something, and
write it, please without a psychological assessment.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:54 AM
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36. OK. I just don't like to see people be unhappy.
I do worry about people who show signs of sliding into clinical depression, which can be deadly.

Glad to hear you had some fun with the pooches.

Redstone
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:42 PM
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24. Thanksgiving really does not apply to Hawai'i
Only to those from the mainland. It has no historical context here. People celebrate it but (in my opinion) caries little weight
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AccessGranted Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:28 PM
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25. What's to hate about Thanksgiving???
It's a good day always at least for me. Guess I'm just lucky in that way.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:25 AM
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26. Sounds like you had a rough day
Ouch...all that at once. I just hate the before noon shit, that's the worst.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:38 AM
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28. um
it's a cooking marathon. And there was a tiny fire (piece of foil) and argument with the husband. We always have one argument when we cook, near the end when we have to get all the food finished. But this year
my son helped with the preparations and that was pretty neat. Every year he is more independent and helpful.


But overall, it is usually a very nice day, with good food, wine, beer and people you like and love, to talk to. I feel very lucky. :)
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:38 AM
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29. Other!
Having to work while having this shit flu that's going around (fever, hacking up bits of lung, constant nose running, etc) wasn't a choice, so, I went with other! But I've found a way to get rid of annoying people...I just tell them I have BIRD FLU!

Lu
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:04 AM
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31. Imagine that I have experienced ALL the poll questions!
Every year for about 12 years.

My ex-wifes family thanksgiving SUCKED big time.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 06:05 AM
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33. The idea that gluttony somehow praises some God
who said that gluttony was basically bad. I'm still trying to understand that concept.

Also, the torture that is known as "family get togethers." Why spend the precious little time we have off from work and/or school with relatives we purposely don't see during the rest of the year? Chances are, if we thought they were that great of company, we would spend more time with them the rest of the year. We don't want to see them on a daily basis for a reason. And chances are, we learned that we don't want to see them through experiences that make us never want to see them again. Therefore, family get togethers are absolute torture. What did we do to deserve that? Why do we punish ourselves that way voluntarily?
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:47 AM
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38. I agree
My oldest brother and his wife made a point to invite me to any occasion that involved bringing a gift. That would include their birthdays, plus their two kids' birthdays, and of course Greedmess (SIL's birthday is around Thanksgiving, so it was always combined with her birthday party). They never really bothered with me the rest of the year. My own birthday was conveniently forgotten.

I was invited over once to watch the Super Bowl, but it was two days after my dog had died and I wasn't up for socializing. My mother dragged me with her because SIL "wouldn't take no for an answer."

Invariably, some topic of conversation would come up that would anger me so much I would have to excuse myself and take a walk. Democrats are evil, public school-educated people are stupid, the Clintons are corrupt. My mother would be angry, too, but she was afraid if she said anything, they would deny her access to her grandchildren.

I used to go because it made my mother happy. She knew that once she passed away, I would turn down their invitations. As it turned out, my brother had stopped speaking to me just before Mom died, so I wouldn't be invited to anything anyway.

It's great finally having some autonomy on the holidays. I guess that's something to be thankful for.

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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:39 AM
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37. Are you kidding? Did you see the Lions?
Pain. 48 years of pain.

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:53 AM
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39. Actually, I love Thanksgiving
I don't even mind working on it since I only work until 1 and my SO does all the cooking anyway.

When I was a kid, we'd often have snow on Thanksgiving and like clockwork, someone would get stuck at the base of the driveway and we'd all have to go out with snow shovels and dig and push them out. That was rather fun.

When I was older, me and all my sisters would be in the kitchen cooking while all the men were in the living room yelling at the football games but I never minded that either because it was fun to hang out with my sisters.

When my kids were little, I'd take turns hosting with my siblings and it was always crazy with kids running around and everyone drinking and having a good time. That was fun, too.

Now it's just me and my sweetie and it's peaceful and mellow.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 03:23 PM
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41. Washing the china and stemware and pots and pans till midnight
after the 16 guests left.

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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 03:36 PM
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42. The green-bean casserole...I never understood what the big deal was
with it. I think it's pretty bland
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:48 AM
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44. People asking me how my Thanksgiving was
Sometimes I lie and say it was fine, but the truth is that my daughter has to spend every Thanksgiving with the "dark sided" side of the family (my ex, a Republican and his F'ed up mother).

This year topped it all. About 11pm on Wednesday night, I noticed I did not have any hot water. Well, my heating system supplies all the domestic hot water and ALSO provides the heat for my home.

Yep, you guessed it...I lost my heat. I called the emergency crew and they shut me down at 3am....said it was an extreme fire hazard.

I guess in retrospect I am lucky that the safety kicked on when the flames hit it and the pilot went out.

I begged the technician to help me get my gas logs going and he did. The pilot on the gas logs had a tough time staying lit and then the fan that disperses the hot air did not want to start. I would not have made it through the night without his help. Which reminds me that I need to make sure that I let his boss know how much I appreciated his help.

On Thursday, I just ate donuts. I had no way to wash dishes and was not up to making any dinner. I had been up most of the night afterall.

I decided to lay low and not bum out my daughter. I could fill her in later and not spoil her Thanksgiving. I realized it would have been WORSE if she were here and I could not cook and neither of us would have been able to shower.

Well, the gas logs kept me and my pets warm enough. I slept on the couch to make sure fumes would not overcome us.

The heating people came out on Friday, and yes, I need a new heating system. They removed the insulation from the apparatus and shoved a screwdriver into something so the flames kinda had a place to go. They made sure the safeties were all operational, so I was able to shower this morning.

So, really, I hate people asking how my Thanksgiving was and having to lie...then again, why bother them with details? I hate to lie, but lately I feel it is proper. It gets more involved when they start asking what I had for dinner....ham or turkey. Damn, I am trying to spare them from what I am going through. They are only acqaintences afterall.
Every year I spend Thanksgiving by myself due to this sharing thing with my only child. This year just happened to be alittle worse than previous years.
I just wish sometimes people didn't put me on the spot by asking how my Thanksgiving was. This year, especially.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:51 AM
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46. Those damn Pilgrim hats. I hate wearing 'em....
...:-(
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:53 AM
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47. The mass murder of turkeys.
gobble gobble :(
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