Liebermann on CSPAN2, "We are not there to defeat the

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TERRORISTS", so I ask, what does "defeat in Iraq" mean??

Not getting rid of the wmds??

Not ousting Saddam and killing his sons??

Not killing tens of thousands of Iraqis??

Not getting the civil war underway??

Not pumping unmetered oil??

Not allowing KBR to screw the taxpayer??

Not blowing apart their civilian infrastructure yet AGAIN??

Not raping their economy and putting Bremer's rules above all else indefinitely??

Or is defeat in Iraq simply admitting that you lied to the American people, misrepresented the intel, made a horrendous mistake, and condemned America to a sort of civil war all its own.... I wonder just what defeat in Iraq really means.