Worst trilogy?

[XemaSab]

Poll question: Worst trilogy?

And why? :shrug:

[IsIt1984Yet]

1. Where's Robocop?

I like both SW and The Matrix :shrug:

[billyskank]

2. Tough one

I had to vote for Star Wars, because it was one bad film, I haven't seen the second but it is reputed to be awful, and one mediocre film that seems good in comparison.

The Matrix: Reloaded and The Matrix: Revolutions are both mediocre films, but I thought the first one was class. In fact I don't think they should have made any sequels, if they had just left it at that then it would have been ok.

[XemaSab]

3. I picked those two trilogies because they started out really promising

And devolved pretty quickly.

FWIW, I think Matrix 1 redeems the trilogy, but the first three (second three?) films almost completely destroy the sextet. For reals, Episodes 1 and 2 were 2 of the worst films I have ever seen, and the third was merely laughable.

[Benfea]

5. Let me bring back nightmares...

...by mentioning the love story from Episode 2.

You can thank me later.

[XemaSab]

7. And I'll send it right back atcha with two simple words:

Jar-Jar.

[Benfea]

9. *sigh* I'm immune to that one...

...ever since Darth Jar-Jar got elected president.

[billyskank]

6. Indeed it would have been much better if Lucas had never bothered

and "Star Wars" had never become "Episode IV: A New Hope" :puke:

Renaming films retrospectively: what kind of an asshole does that anyway? :wtf:

[XemaSab]

8. I can't think of a single other instance

Save retitling foreign films.

Like "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone."

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

13. Raiders of the Lost Ark became "Indiana Jones and the Raiders ..."

at the end of the 90s. So there's two examples & both with Lucas connections ... hmmm.

[billyskank]

18. At least that change is subtle enough

that many people probably didn't notice. I didn't until just now when you told me.

[Rabrrrrrr]

16. But to Lucas credit, that was the original title he wanted - the studio

wouldn't let him do it, saying it would annoy the viewers to call it "Episode IV". Only after it became popular was he able to go back and put in the title he'd always wanted for it, which was "Episode IV: A New Hope".

[billyskank]

17. I still think it's an asshole thing to do

he might have wanted it that way, but nonetheless the film still originally came out under a different name, and he changed it retrospectively.

Anyway, the first three films are much better than the prequels. I reckon it's what happens when an artist becomes so successful that no-one dares tell him which of his ideas stink.

[Richard Steele]

19. And the film had always carried the "Episode IV" title, from the start.

That was the FIRST thing I saw on the screen in 1977, y'know?

Lot's of reasons to be upset with that dumbass Lucas,
but this ain't one of them.

[Rabrrrrrr]

20. No, I don't think it did - not until it came to theaters the second time.

The very first theatrical run, May of 1978, it was just "Star Wars: A New Hope".

That's what I remember, and I'm quite sure that's what Lucas has said - that it wasn't until it made shitloads of money that he was able finally to put the "Episode IV" in it, probably in the 1979 re-release of it, or perhaps even the July, 1978 re-release of it.

[Richard Steele]

23. I'm probably remembering the 1979 're-release', then...

I wasn't aware he had been altering things at such
an early date.

[billyskank]

24. Even then it didn't

When I was a kid in the 80s, it was not Episode IV or anything other than Star Wars.

[Rabrrrrrr]

28. I did some checking - it became Episode IV in 1981

When Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980, it had the Episode V: moniker, and the next year's re-re-re-release of Star Wars was the first addition of "Episode IV".

[billyskank]

32. Really?

I never noticed this. Maybe it didn't over this side of the Atlantic.

[Mutley]

35. Weird.

I still have the VHS tapes that my parents purchased some time in the 80s, and none of them say Episode IV, V, or VI.

They do say "A New Hope," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi."

:shrug:

[billyskank]

37. I certainly don't remember it

I'm sure as a 10-year old kid I would have said, "what the fuck does Episode IV mean? This is the first film!"

[Mutley]

39. Same here.

I remember being quite surprised the first time I heard they weren't the beginning of the story.

[billyskank]

40. It's kinda wierd

but I feel a bit like I'm in Soviet Russia, where they change old newspapers so they don't say what they used to say, and if you remark on it then you are told, "no comrade, there must be something wrong with your memory..."

:rofl:

[Rabrrrrrr]

41. We've always been at war with Eurasia

[Mutley]

44. LOL!

:rofl:

:D

[Richard Steele]

47. Well, my memory was still abit off, at any rate.

I last saw it when it was re-released AFTER Empire,
that would have been '81, not '80 like I said.

[Richard Steele]

30. Well, I don't know what to tell you.

I certainly haven't seen it it a theater since 1980,
but it had "Episode IV: A New Hope" at the beginning of the
scrolling print that opens the film. :shrug:

[billyskank]

33. This warrants further investigation...

[billyskank]

22. It so did not

It was: Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and The Return Of The Jedi. Just that.

[Mutley]

25. That's the way I remember it.

:shrug:



Hey billy. :hi: :hug:

[billyskank]

26. Hi muts!

:hi: :hug:

[RagingInMiami]

34. I think Star Wars was one of the greatest films of all time

It definitely set a new standard for science fiction movies.

[Benfea]

4. Star Wars prequel is clearly worse.

The Matrix is at least redeemed by the first book in the series.

[Mutley]

10. I'd have to say Star Wars.

Mostly because I grew up an avid fan of the original trilogy, and when I first heard about the making of Episodes 1-3, I was very excited to see them. However, they disappointed me — deeply. I don't hate them with a fiery passion like some people do, but they're missing whatever quality it is that makes the originals so wonderful.

[XemaSab]

12. Decent script, decent acting, decent plot, coherent narrative...

restraint with the special effects...

[Mutley]

15. You mean in the original trilogy?

Yeah, there's all that, but there's also something special about it that has kept me interested after all these years. I can still sit down and watch them every few months without getting bored. I can't really describe what it is I mean.

[billyskank]

38. I think she means the prequels, muts

:D

[Mutley]

45. Oh.

:blush:

:P

[XemaSab]

42. The casting was pretty solid too

I mean, Mark Hamill is a doofus, but so is Luke, ya know?

[Mutley]

46. I can't think of Anyone who would have made a better Luke.

No one. :D

[XemaSab]

48. And I'm not saying it to bag on Hayden and Natalie

but the script was pure shit.

I mean come on, it had Ewan and Samuel in it and still sucked.

[Mutley]

49. Yeah, that probably disappointed me the most.

I was looking forward to Ewan McGreggor as Obi Wan, and he was okay. But Samuel seems like he was trying way too hard.

[YankeyMCC]

11. Picked Star Wars

The Matrix at least held my interest for 1 and maybe the first quarter of the second movie.

The SW eps 1-3 just tarinshed the image of the classic Ep 4-6 movies so to me that's a worse offense.

[Rabrrrrrr]

14. Matrix: it started great and went to shit. Star Wars went shit to good.

at first and became better with each movie, to the point that the third one I actually went to see twice in the theater and looked forward to buying the DVD.

Matrix was just the opposite - I couldn't wait for Matrix I to come out on DVD, Matrix II I only saw on DVD, and after seeing Matrix III in the theater, I will never buy the DVD.

So I vote Matrix as the worst, simply because it failed in its mission.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

21. That's actually a tought choice. But I had to go with Star Wars, because

it caused me much more physical pain, and also because the Matrix trilogy at least had a good film in it (the first), whereas the Star Wars "prequel" movies all sucked to varying degrees.

[fishwax]

27. the matrix

I liked the first movie better than any of the star wars 1-3, but the second and (especially) third matrices sucked beyond repair (even slightly worse than star wars 2) :puke:

[Atmashine]

29. Err... I like all of them

From the cheesey lines in Star Wars Episode 2 like "Hold me. Hold me like you did at the lake on Naboo!" to Jar-Jar flopping into trouble. Oh ya, play Lego Star Wars, it's like the movies were made for that game, it's really fun.

Cheesey movies are awesome. ::goes to watch Gremlins::

[XemaSab]

31. They have Hordeum marinum (a barley species)

on Naboo.

[billyskank]

36. I am made complete

knowing that fact.

And I am not in the least surprised that it is you who told us that. :D

[WCGreen]

43. George Bush....

George Bush...

Jeb Bush....

[Deja Q]

50. At least 'The Matrix' started with some potential.

SW didn't.

[billyskank]

51. I certainly enjoyed The Matrix more than any of the other films

For all its faults, it was an awful lot of fun.

[ikri]

52. Tough call

The Star Wars prequels could have been great if Lucas had hired a real director, a decent script writer and a different actor to play Anakin in ep2 & 3. And whilst none of the prequels managed to live up to expectations at least there was a sense of closure in episode 3 (even if much of it didn't make sense with the original trilogy).

I've watched the final Matrix film a few times & believed that it could have been done a whole lot better and I know I'm not the only one who had no idea what the hell happened at the end. I know there was talk at the time about the rights to the Matrix being sold so more films could be made in the future, perhaps we'll have a Matrix prequel trilogy in 20 years time.