Herbivores: Have you ever thought of going Carnivore

[Guava Jelly]

I mean at least chicken cheese and eggs?

[LeftyMom]

1. no.

I did jokingly threaten to go get a Double Double when I heard that Paris Hilton went veg, but I'd never knowingly eat an animal product or even seriously consider it.

[Guava Jelly]

2. I couldn't live without cheese

it's like Crack cocaine to me.

[LeftyMom]

3. That's more true than you know.

There's this stuff in cheese (and all mammalian milks, but the cheesemaking process concentrates it) called casomorphins, they trigger the opiate receptors in the brain. The idea is for the casomorphins to ensure that infant animals feed enough to thrive, so they make milk pleasurable, but they do have an addictive effect, especialy when concentrated in cheese. The neat thing is that if you go without for a week or two, the effect pretty much goes away and cheese becomes much less tempting.

[Guava Jelly]

8. thanks for the info

I myself can do with out certain meats like beef.
but chicken seafood and pork I enjoy.
Being on a high protien diet I avoid carbs as much as i can.
To each his own i guess

[querelle]

4. Same Here

I don't eat meat, but couldn't live without cheese. Yougourt and milk too. I never understood why vegans disapprove of ovo-lactate vegetarians. I only eat by-products of animals and not their flesh. Is that so bad? Not a single animal has to die for my diet. So, what am I doing wrong? Is it a question of exploitation? We are all exploited in one way or another without having to be killed. Seems okay to me. But I'm just a Canadian. What do I know?

Q

[LeftyMom]

6. I don't mean this as an attack, I'm just answering the question.

To start with there's the philosphical objection: Vegans believe that humans can and should thrive without exploiting animals.

The enviornmental argument: The amount of waste created, water used or polluted and human-edible plant matter eaten in animal agriculture is not justifiable.

The health argument: Human beings are healthiest when they eat no animal products at all.

I could go on, but it's really not my intent to pile on. However I do want to point out that there is still a great deal of death inherent in teh ovo-lacto vegetarian diet. To impregnate a cow (or sheep or goat or whatever) is the first step in milk production, and since the males are not needed to create milk, they are slaughtered young. The male children of breeding layer hens are immediately thrown in the dumpster or ground up alive for use as fertlizer or feed. Both milk-giving animals and layer hens live much shorter lives (almost always in confinement) than they otherwise would and are slaughtered for thier meat when thier production wanes.

[flvegan]

5. I haven't, no.

I used to eat meat, several years ago, so it's not like I've never thought about it. I just haven't in several years.

[pink-o]

7. I've been veg for 30 years...

....and have never been tempted by meat. Some people are just not meant to eat it, albeit humans are omnivores, of this I'm convinced. I think eating meat is hard on one's health and the environment, but if it's what you crave, no one should tell you to knock it off. Born-again vegetarians are about as charming as a rash in warm, wet places.