Wanted: Spider Identification (pics)

[Inchworm]

It was midnight and this lil sucker was playing peek a boo with me. I got my trappin hat on and caught it to set outside.

What is it though?

EDIT: I'm in Northwest North Carolina Mountains.





:shrug:

[CreekDog]

1. Hobo Spider? Apparently, bites can be like those of the Brown Recluse

Get a shoe!

[Inchworm]

2. I forgot to say where I was

NC Mtns.

From what I've read Hobos are...
Habitat - they can be found anywhere in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado. They rarely climb vertical surfaces and are uncommon above basements or ground level.

:hi:

[Capn Sunshine]

3. This guy says giant House spider

but he could be wrong

How to identify a Hobo Spider?
There are three main types of Hobo spiders; Tegenaria agrestis, T. gigantic, and T. domestica. These spiders, also referred to as the Aggressive House Spider, have been suspected of living in the United States as early as the 1920's and 1930's. They are brown and the adults measure roughly 10-15 mm (0.4 - 0.6 inches) in body length and 15 to 45 mm (0.6 - 1.8 inches) in leg span. Their legs show no distinct rings and have short hairs. Their abdomens have several chevron shaped markings. Males are distinctively different from females in that they have two large palpi (mouth parts) that look like boxing gloves. These palpi are often mistaken for fangs or venom sacs, but they are in fact the male genitalia. The females also have these palpi, but the ends are not enlarged as they are in the males. Females tend to have a larger and rounder abdomen when compared to males. The Hobo spider has a distinctive web that is horizontal and flat with a funnel at one end. These funnel shaped webs are often attached to an object in the yard, by the foundation of structures, or anything that remains stationary near the ground. The spiders rarely climb vertical surfaces and are uncommon above basements or ground level.


There have been about 175 reported bites from the Hobo spider. Although the bite of the hobo spider usually is initially painless, the bite of the hobo spider can be serious. About 50% of Hobo spider bites are "dry", meaning that no venom is injected and nothing happens to the victim. Typically when the venom is injected, the victim will experience an immediate redness, which develops around the bite then may begin to disappear within a few hours. The most commonly reported symptom is severe headache. Other symptoms can include nausea, weakness, fatigue, temporary memory loss, and vision impairment.

Very often for the first 24 hours it may appear no worse then a mosquito bite, then it appears to blister in the center. Within 24-36 hours the blister breaks open, leaving an open, oozing ulceration. Lesions generally heal within 45 days, but can result in a permanent scar, and healing can require up to 3 years if the bite occurred in fatty tissue.

[Inchworm]

16. Thanks for the compare pics

I was leaning toward house or wolf.

Hobos are out west from what I read.

:hi:

[Mojorabbit]

4. I shouldn't have clicked

on this thread. Now I am going to have nightmares. There is just something about spiders that creeps me out.

[Maraya1969]

5. Me too. And I knew I shouldn't but I did it anyway. Dumb

[momophile]

26. it says spiders and pics in the title and yet

we all clicked on it. wish I wouldn't have...:scared:

[Inchworm]

17. Do Not send me large quanities of money

Hehe

:hi:

[asdjrocky]

6. Looks like a Wolf spider to me, but I can't be sure.

[Inchworm]

18. I'm thinking that too - wolf or house

Thanks

:hi:

[Heidi]

7. Go here, Inchworm:

www.whatsthatbug.com

Scroll down a bit and you'll see a long list of "bug" links on the left. There are about 11 pages of spiders you can look through to identify your spider. :hi:

Thanks for giving the spider a ride outside instead of squishing it. :thumbsup:

[Inchworm]

20. You are welcome

Thanks for the linky. I sent him an email :)

The only time I'd kill a spider is on reflex reaction if it startles me. Otherwize I let them out so they can keep the bugs dead :)

:hi:

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

8. This site says Hobo found in Pacific Northwest

http://www.brown-recluse.com/spiderinfo.html
and the picture they show doesn't look like yours. I however have seen these: "The Hobo spider has a distinctive web that is horizontal and flat with a funnel at one end." In my house, and I live in the Pacific Northwest. (Near plant containers placed against the window,) Yikes. I may clean a little more often. I was just glad there was someone to eat the flies.

[Inchworm]

21. I think I'm safe between those 2 choices

Legs look too short for brown recluse, and the only hobo around here is me :P

:hi:

[Heidi]

9. Keep your wits about you when dealing with spiders!

http://www.kearneyhub.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19018858&BRD=268&PAG=461&dept_id=577571&rfi=6

[Inchworm]

22. LOL- yup.. when I first saw it

I jumped, 'bout broke slider that keyboard is on and scraped my leg. That's the time when the spider was most likely to be killed by me, but he ran under drawer as I freaked.

:P

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

10. Did you check the site Heidi sent?

Looks like a fishing or diving spider to me, but the bug man will answer your question if you send him the picture. There is a picture on one of those pages of a spider that captured a humming bird. Quite a few pictures, though some duplicates.
good luck,

[Inchworm]

23. I did- email went out at 12:30ish

Anxiously awaiting.

:)

[deucemagnet]

11. Well, I'm not really good at identifying spiders,

but I know that any harmful spiders in your part of the country (black widow or brown recluse) have smooth rather than fuzzy legs. Your late-night visitor is a pretty girl, but I don't think she's dangerous. :)

[Inchworm]

24. I'm bout certain it wasnt deadly

I still want to know what it was, so I can notch my spider trapping belt :P

:hi:

[MnFats]

12. Geezus! those look like the spiders we would see at my folks'...

...
cabin from time to time...(central Minnesota)
my father thought they were called Hairy Brown Barn spiders.
they could jump like mad and once i was bitten on my middle finger, which swelled like a sausage and felt for three or four days like someone was pounding on it with a ball peen hammer.
couldn't be, could it?
it gets too cold here for most of those little buggers..

[Inchworm]

27. I think you are talking about jumping spiders

I have seen those around here all my life and seen them jump quite impressivly. I usually saw them crossing a dirt road. Very freaky because they may at any time jump in your face hehe.

From the pics I've seen, those guys have very distintive eyes. This one didn't.

:hi:

[Duer 157099]

13. I'm thinking maybe a Carolina Wolf Spider?

http://www.petbugs.com/caresheets/H-carolinensis.html

http://bugguide.net/node/view/27062

[Inchworm]

28. Thats probably her

Now I'm leaning away from house spider and going toward wolf.

Female Carolina Wolf?

Thanks.

[Arkansas Granny]

14. My spider identification skills allow me two choices.

1. A spider found outside is assumed to be a bug eating spider and I leave it alone.

2. A spider found inside my house is assumed to have a death wish so I oblige it.

Your spider appears to fall into the second category. I don't freak out over other insects or even snakes, but I don't deal well with spiders.

[Inchworm]

29. Well, mebbe she was lost

hehe.

She got a stay of excecution.

:hi:

[BarenakedLady]

15. Cool!

What a purty spider.

I'd go with a wolf or fishing spider.

:shrug:

[Inchworm]

30. I'm totally thinking female wolf now

There is no water around me.

I was a little startled. Would you hold me? :scared:

Flirt- Flirt- Flirt :loveya:

:hi:

[hedgehog]

19. I've never seen anything like that around here. What I have are

very aggressive web weavers. If I knock down all the cob webs, they're back in a week. I generally leave them up all summer; they're more effective and less intrusive than fly paper.

[Inchworm]

31. The top corners of many rooms in my house

are filled with webs for the same reason. I get em down 2-3 times a year.

:hi:

[hedgehog]

33. 2 or 3 times a year? Better get yourself checked out if you're that

obsessive about house cleaning!

(I do mine just before Christmas, tops. Somehow, my mother and sisters don't think much of my house keeping skills, I don't know why!)

[Inchworm]

34. Yea- I dont want to over do it

I may cut back to a strict 2x a year - summer and winter.

:P

[idgiehkt]

25. here is a chart

[Inchworm]

32. Thanks

I think this is the chart I found last night than made me thing house or wolf spider. I'm thinking female wolf now.

:hi:

[Trailrider1951]

35. It's one scary mofo

YIKES!!

[Inchworm]

36. Totally harmless

If it's what I think it is. The jury is still out though :P

:hi:

[Skittles]

37. thanks for not killing it

I too trap the little suckers and toss 'em outside

[SoxFan]

38. SWWET JEEBUS! RUN!!!

:woohoo:

[CreekDog]

39. My cat eats spiders

The only useful thing he does. But it's verrrry useful.

[Zodiak]

40. Looks like a wolf spider to me.

The eye patterning is more consistent with a wolf spider than a funnel web (which is what hobo spiders are)....also lack of elongated spinnarets are somewhat deterministic.



This is the hobo spider....notice the spinnarets?

Also, the hobo is a northwestern species.

Now that I have read the thred...it is a wolf spider. The eyes are in three rows....one of the chief characteristics of a wolf spider. Diving spiders and funnel webs have their eyes in two rows.