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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:56 PM
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i found a mono pressing of sgt. pepper's
now i need a damn turntable.

i heard the mix is different on the mono version, not just because it's one channel, but speed variations and audible parts that are inaudible on the stereo mix.

wish me luck.




an interesting article about the loss of high fidelity in music.







The Death of High Fidelity
In the age of MP3s, sound quality is worse than ever

ROBERT LEVINE

Posted Dec 26, 2007 1:27 PM


David Bendeth, a producer who works with rock bands like Hawthorne Heights and Paramore, knows that the albums he makes are often played through tiny computer speakers by fans who are busy surfing the Internet. So he's not surprised when record labels ask the mastering engineers who work on his CDs to crank up the sound levels so high that even the soft parts sound loud.

Over the past decade and a half, a revolution in recording technology has changed the way albums are produced, mixed and mastered — almost always for the worse. "They make it loud to get attention," Bendeth says. Engineers do that by applying dynamic range compression, which reduces the difference between the loudest and softest sounds in a song. Like many of his peers, Bendeth believes that relying too much on this effect can obscure sonic detail, rob music of its emotional power and leave listeners with what engineers call ear fatigue. "I think most everything is mastered a little too loud," Bendeth says. "The industry decided that it's a volume contest."

Producers and engineers call this "the loudness war," and it has changed the way almost every new pop and rock album sounds. But volume isn't the only issue. Computer programs like Pro Tools, which let audio engineers manipulate sound the way a word processor edits text, make musicians sound unnaturally perfect. And today's listeners consume an increasing amount of music on MP3, which eliminates much of the data from the original CD file and can leave music sounding tinny or hollow. "With all the technical innovation, music sounds worse," says Steely Dan's Donald Fagen, who has made what are considered some of the best-sounding records of all time. "God is in the details. But there are no details anymore."

The idea that engineers make albums louder might seem strange: Isn't volume controlled by that knob on the stereo? Yes, but every setting on that dial delivers a range of loudness, from a hushed vocal to a kick drum — and pushing sounds toward the top of that range makes music seem louder. It's the same technique used to make television commercials stand out from shows. And it does grab listeners' attention — but at a price. Last year, Bob Dylan told Rolling Stone that modern albums "have sound all over them. There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like — static."



http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17777619/the_death_of_high_fidelity/print

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:58 PM
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1. You magnificent, lucky bastard.
Please to buy a good turntable and stylus, and let us know how beautiful it is. I'll buy it if you end up not wanting it.

:thumbsup:
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:02 PM
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2. this was one of my holy grails
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 09:06 PM by datasuspect
my first holy grail was the british release of "The Man Who Sold the World."



david bowie in a "man's dress."

changed to a cartoon cover for release in the US.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:09 PM
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3. Congrats, man.
I once saw a copy of the "Butcher" cover Beatles LP behind plexiglass in a record store, the only one I've ever seen in person. I know the "collector" bug :) Hope you find the Bowie as well!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:10 PM
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5. i found the bowie one
when i was in college.

i have this dream where some 5 and 10 store still stocks the butcher cover but the shop has been closed since 1966 and they just sit there intact.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:09 PM
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4. Dude.
I have a turntable.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:14 PM
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6. Congrats- I hope you can get your hands on a turntable
I have a mono copy, although it's not in great shape. It was pretty cool listening to it for the first time in mono, and hearing a few of the differences. The couple I can think of off the top of my head are that the laughter at the end of "Within you, Without You" is different, and "She's Leaving Home" seems to be slightly sped up.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:15 PM
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7. BTW, most engineers and especially mastering engineers, revile the "loudness wars".
Viscerally.

When I get my next bit of income, I'm retubing my old 70-watt vintage EICO integrated amp. And breaking out the vinyl.

Fuck MP3.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:17 PM
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8. i'm moving in that direction
mp3 is easy, but they sound like shit.



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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:34 PM
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9. Is it a British press?
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 09:35 PM by Whoa_Nelly
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:43 PM
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10. probably third or fourth pressing
parlophone label/UK

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