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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:48 PM
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Info about my Dad's death. I am detached, so don't read if you're tender.
I called the Riverside County Sheriff-Coroner yesterday. The deputy I talked to told me what their site inspection seemed to reveal: that a wing clipped a hillside and his plane flipped over and went in nose first. He also told me what the cause of death was: multiple blunt force injuries.

He was only sixty-eight, and he's gone. I don't believe it. Hearing it from the coroner doesn't make it real. It's not real.

I guess I should go to the bereavement group.

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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:50 PM
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1. Bertha, I am so, so sorry for your loss.
:hug: I doubt there's anything I can say or do to make this easier for you, but I'll be thinking about you and your family and sending good vibes your way. :grouphug: Peace.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:00 PM
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2. Bertha, you know I'm not that far from you...
If there's anything I can do to help you, please just say the word. Rides to the airport? Hang out to help Mrs V? Bring a casserole by?

I'm glad to be here for you... :hug::hug::hug:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:01 PM
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3. I'm so sorry.
It will take awhile before it seems real.

:hug:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:05 PM
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4. Bertha I am so so sorry.
I wish there was something wise I could say that would help you through this time. :hug:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:43 PM
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5. Kim
multiiple blunt force = he died quickly and did not suffer

I'm so sorry for you - yes, contact a bereavement group if you feel the need - they do help people
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:58 PM
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6. didn't suffer? are you sure?
:cry: we weren't even that close and i can't believe how much i hurt.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:03 PM
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7. Due to the high speed, it's highly unlikely that he felt any physical pain.
Sorry if I sound cold, but sometimes the cold, hard facts ARE comforting.

Oh, and by the way: :hug:
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:04 PM
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9. No, JC, you sound detached, like i was until...
...i read Skittles's response. IINM, she was in the military, maybe Air Force? Maybe with some specific knowledge due to flight training? You must have some similar training. either that or you're way smarter and more detached than me.

:hug:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:07 PM
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13. I was in the Air Force
but no, I have no kind of flight training.

You need to stop tormenting yourself - please do contact the bereavement group as soon as you can - you need to talk out your feelings with a trained counselor.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:22 PM
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14. I am detached...
being a nurse and all (also an ex-sky diver). This means he died fast, the shock of impact means he felt no pain. I had an acquaintance who bounced skydiving (chute opened partway leading to not much slowing down before hit ground). He said he didn't feel anything for over 15 minutes, body was in shock. Not until he was in ambulance did he feel. Being a nurse I always wondered if shock mean no pain and I found this reassuring.

Regarding detachment: bereavement group can help. At my parent's 6 month death anniversary I crashed. Had alternated between hyper functioning and unable to function. I got meds to help me sleep a few nights, managed to get to bereavement group (why the HELL did they hold it in a hospital? I walked in, turned and walked out cause the smells just got me), and it never goes away, even 16 yrs later, but it does get easier to deal with.

Hugs to you.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:04 PM
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8. I think multiple-blunt force
pretty much means he died instantly.

I do know how you feel Kim - I did not see or talk to my dad much after I left home but it still hit me hard when he died.....you are still in shock right now, you have to give yourself time to grieve. I know this: time does not heal all wounds but it does make them easier to bear, I promise.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:05 PM
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10. ..
:hug: ty
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:05 PM
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11. I'm sorry for your loss. I lost my dad last spring. I know how you feel.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:05 PM
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12. I am so, so sorry

What a sudden and shocking way to lose someone.


All my condolences to you and your family. :hug:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:24 PM
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15. I am so sorry for your loss, Bertha.
You don't have to go to the bereavement group. We love you here too, and want to comfort you.
:hug:
I hope you find some peace soon. If you need an ear, I'm here.
Duckie
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:25 PM
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16. Hey Bertha.
:hug:
Again, I am very sorry for your loss. :hug:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:29 PM
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17. He died doing what he loved
I can't tell you your father did not suffer; he probably did.

It was an honorable end to a glorious life.

I envy your father for what he achieved in life.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:33 PM
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18. I'm so sorry Bertha.
I'm lost for words.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:37 PM
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19. .
:hug:
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:46 PM
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20. bertha,
I understand how you are feeling, I lost my father in a rather unexpected manor too, he was only 50. I was 20. If you want to you can pm me anytime you feel you just need someone to talk to. :hug:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:50 PM
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21. much love and peaceful vibes for you, Bertha.
Very much of both for you and your family.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:12 PM
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22. Oh I am so, so very sorry for your loss.
I really hope you can find some comfort in the fact that he went out flying - obviously something he loved.

May peace and strength surround you and your family during this time. I would echo what so many others have said, find a bereavement group. Or at least keep talking to everyone here at DU. It really helps to have folks around you who really understand your situation and/or who can offer some support and comfort.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:18 PM
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23. I am so sorry for your loss!
My condolences
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:29 PM
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24. I'm so sorry. My dad died a few years ago at that same age.
He seemed healthy and then *Bam!* he was gone. I was in a state of disbelief for many months. Bertha, be good to yourself and believe that it will get easier, because it will. :hug:
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:47 PM
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25. I'm very sorry to hear about the death of your dad.
I started to write about my dad's death, but then realized that the death of a parent is unique to each person. My sincere condolences to you and yours.

Regards, Mugu
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:56 PM
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26. I'm sorry for your loss.
I wish I could add something, but I can't.

:hug:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:58 PM
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27. please be kind to yourself
:hug:
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