Liberals against Hippies - now there's something I'm down with

[Taverner]

For starts - most Hippies I've met are apolitical. Most would be Libertarian if pushed. Most of them are trust-fund children living off mommy and daddy. It costs A LOT to be a hippie. Being a hippie does not always equal Democrat, Green or even Progressive. Some of the most sexist motherfuckers I've met were hippies.

For seconds, hippies are always pushing stupid new age bullshit that would be laughable if it weren't for their dogged dedication. "Crystal Power"???? Gimmie a fucking break.

For thirds, HEMP IS NOT A FUCKING FASHION STATEMENT. Sure, hemp is nice. Hemp tastes great, in fact, and is a great additive to the hopping process to add bitterness to beer. Hemp ropes are even better, and I think homebuilders should look into hemp particle boards. But hemp clothing? WTF??? I've worn hemp and its not comfortable, it doesn't breathe - if you really want to wear a renewable resource, try wool. It's better, and if farmed ethically, the sheep love the life.

[Parche]

1. As Long As They Get Rid Of The Hippie Music

:grr: :grr: :hi:

[Taverner]

2. That's another thing: I like the Dead and Phish

But most of the hippies I've met hate these bands, and listen instead to some obscure form of world music from a country that may or may not exist with a culture that may or may not have been created by Margaret Mead.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Hippie supermen are our superiors.

Hippies were the only good thing to come out of that entire generation.,

[old mark]

4. We seem to have made a lot of lawyers, too.....

Wonder how that happened....

mark

[petronius]

40. I for one welcome our new hippie overlords, and, as a trusted DU member,

I look forward to encouraging others to toil in their below-ground patchouli mines...

[XemaSab]

5. AMEN!

:patriot:

[Greyskye]

6. Define "Hippie"

:shrug:

And I have a number of hemp shirts - I've got 3 of these in different colors. Hemp/organic cotton blends.

http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/774290

Softest, most comfy shirts I own.

[Taverner]

12. Cotton is our friend

Wool is our friend

Hemp can be our friend, but it needs too much help from cotton.

Hemp is our friend if we need rope, wood or (dare I say it) something to smoke of the Sativa and Indica variety.

[Greyskye]

14. still waiting for your definition of "hippie"

:shrug:

[Taverner]

17. Oh dog, need I define it???

You know it when you see it!!!!

Just because you're dressed as such, does not make you such.

And just because you think you are, does not mean you are.

[Greyskye]

20. Can't you?

I know what a hippie used to be - I want to know what you define as a hippie now.

Is it only the way a person is dressed? Not according to what you just wrote.

Is it a persons self-definition? Again, not according to what you just wrote.

So what are the defining characteristics of a "hippie"? :shrug:

[Taverner]

22. Join us at post 16/18

I think you should chime in

We SHOULD define Hippie

That's been the problem this WHOLE FUCKING THREAD

[mopinko]

7. hey, i'm a old hippie, and proud of it.

but yeah, crystal? get real.

[Taverner]

15. Back when you were a hippie it MEANT SOMETHING

You said old, I'm assuming you are a baby boomer or at least early Gen X.

The current crop of hippies is mostly trust fund trash.

Out of your crop you can count among you Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs - not exactly trust fund types.

[mopinko]

37. yeah, i am an aging boomer, and proud to be a hippie.

mostly stood for not shaving, 'cept maybe my head. well, not really shaving, just a buzz cut that my mother always hated. been known to smell bad, and sure don't wear perfume.
don't do crystals, or herbs except in food, but did have 5 kids, 4 born at home.
not into stuff, really, although i love my ibook, and my new iphone. drive a beat up old truck and can barely get my mind around the idea of buying a vehicle new. don't know why people would buy clothes anywhere but the thrift shop, either.
wish i could take better care of the planet, but i love the city too much to live in a cave. love critters, wild and tame, but still poison the mice and the termites. have a big barn of a house, but it is too old to be a mcmansion, and there is too much peeling paint, anyway.
spent 8 years homeschooling, cuz i couldn't stand my one of a kind kid being part of the herd, but the baby is in the selective enrollment high school, and i intend for them all to finish college if it kills me. or them.
trying to scratch out a living making art out of clay and politics. but very happy that i married a guy who is not quite a boomer, who figured out in high school that these new fangled computer things were pretty cool. never did have a real wedding, and never even really announced to the family that we had broke down and got that piece of paper.

so, is that a definition enough?

[zanne]

27. We weren't called hippies. We were called "freaks".

People who talk about "hippies" don't know "hippies". The poster doesn't know what he's talking about. I was a freak in the 60's and 70's and I proudly carry those traits with me to this day. We stood for peace, individuality, COURAGE in standing up for our ideals and creativity. If it wasn't for "hippies", Vietnam wouild probably still be a wartorn country.

[Taverner]

33. AGAIN, it meant something then

You have to admit, there are a bunch of folks living on your legacy

[zanne]

38. Who, exactly? nt

[DarkTirade]

8. Soy People.,,

http://waiterrant.net/?p=250

[bicentennial_baby]

9. His book is out now!!

I want it! :bounce:

[DarkTirade]

31. There are two blogs I want to buy a book from.

This one's one of 'em. :)

[mopinko]

39. ok, that's funny. but

that woman is not a hippie, no matter how many hemp purses she owns. hippies go with the flow.

[Robb]

10. In my neck of the woods, we call them "Trustifarians."

This exceedingly smelly couple, both needing a bath/shave, him with dreads and her about six months pregnant, came to my door last month interested in the camper trailer I had for sale.

First instinct: eww.

Second look: I noticed the pair of $4,000 bicycles on the rack atop their brand-new Prius.

Robb thinks: "Aha."

Deal made. Cash. Guy came back with even newer Subaru (maybe 100 miles on it) to tow it away. :D

[XemaSab]

11. "Can we trade you some nugs for your camper?"

:smoke:

[Taverner]

13. LOL I love that!

Trustafarians indeed!

[sasquatch]

16. When I posted that I started the mother of all flamewars

I still agree with that sentiment though.

[Taverner]

18. You know, someone mentioned we need to define hippie.

I'm not up for the task alone....

But I would be game want for a warrior as esteemed as yourself to assist....

HOW EXACTLY ---- would we define a Hippie?

[Greyskye]

23. I think that *you* need to define the term.

Since you're the one proclaiming what hippies are and are not.

When my hair was down to the middle of my back, did that make me a hippie?
Now that it is extremely short, did I lose my hippieness?

When I went to Dead shows, was I a hippie?
Now that I haven't been to a Dead show in (checks wall o' ticket stubs) 15 years, am I no longer one?

Since I put myself through college, have been working in the high-tech industry for 25 years now, and never had anything close to a 'trust fund', does that mean that I was never ever a hippie?

I'm so confused.... :hippie:

[Taverner]

24. Nope, nope and nope

You were not a hippie back then, and you aren't a hippie now

[Greyskye]

25. So what are the defining characteristics of the modern hippie?

Having a trust fund and smelling bad? :shrug:

[Taverner]

26. Well, what's your definition?

[Greyskye]

29. You're the one throwing the word around.

I simply want to know which people you're targeting with the hate.

Hey, the OP had all of these statements about hippies that you've met. You said that most were apolitical, Libertarian (if pushed), trust-fund children, and potentially 'sexy'. You also said that hippies are 'always' pushing new-age BS. (I do agree with the BS part, LOL). You also seem to state that hippies exclusively wear hemp (and then go on a diatribe against hemp clothing. I think you're way off the mark there, YMMV).

Is that your definition? A Hippie is a sexy apolitical trust-fund baby who wears crystals for health along with their hemp clothing?

You know, I don't think I've ever met your kind of hippie in my entire life. :shrug:

[Orsino]

19. Yeah, they're arrogant elitists.

:eyes:

[Taverner]

21. No, they're mostly apolitical people with money and no sense

I am not talking about the Sixties Hippies.

This is not the sixties.

[ghostsofgiants]

28. I have some nice hemp sneakers, but yeah, can't stand hippies.

Too much drugs and shitty music.

[stuntcat]

30. :(

I consider myself a hippie because I garden and hug trees and like nature more than people. I'm crazy about peace and just last week I got a cool hemp bag at Goodwill that I love! :loveya: It's gonna last me forever.
I don't listen to whatever they listen to though, or read whatever they wrote. I have never/would never give any thought to that healing crystal type bullshit.
I dunno.. I've never fit into any group but I definitely have hippie tendencies, the way I understand the word anyway.. conspicuous consumption is the biggest shame on our species.
Etc etc!

Anyway, speaking of fruity BS- I went to a Wiccan wedding once, it made my peace & nature crap look normal.

PEACE, goddammit x(

[LaurenG]

32. I'm with you. I guess we're in a "click" now a damn hippie "click"

Well except that I love crystals and "limestones" and "granites" and seashells. :shrug: Oh yeah and marbles. ;)

[stuntcat]

36. well yeah..

rocks and marbles DO rock! :headbang: and I have seashells all over the place, there's no denying how perfect the natural stuff is.

Stereotypes are usually just DUMB. Hating on "hippies" is pointless bitterness. If hippies like me were in charge we could stop fighting and save the animals and live in the trees.

[Genevieve]

34. "The messengers of sanity in a world filled with greed, intolerance and war."

"society threw the baby out with the bathwater in rejecting hippie ideals; what's most important here is to recognize the 1960s as a period of experimentation, where there was a sense of community, a spiritual revolution, and an evolutionary jump in consciousness." Some now regard the sixties and seventies as "the intellectual renaissance of the 20th century."

McCleary defines "hippie" as "a member of a counterculture that began appearing in the early 1960s, which expressed a moral rejection of the established society. The true hippie believes in and works for truth, generosity, peace, love and tolerance.

"Flower power": the power of peaceful, nonviolent action. Pacifism, the turning of one's cheek, the religion of righteousness and believing that what is right will eventually prevail. The nature of a flower is quiet tenacity, a strong self-preservation hidden by delicate beauty and sensitivity; this is the spirit of the liberal intellectual human being called the hippie.

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/09/02/000135.php

[conscious evolution]

35. It does cost a lot

to be a hippy.
I mean,have you seen the price of nugs lately?That and the cost of gas makes it so hard to follow the Dead anymore.
Don't even get me started on the crystal thing.Fucking DEA and their ban on sudafed.