Do you believe in astrology?

[Symarip]

Poll question: Do you believe in astrology?

Please explain your answer.

[TZ]

1. Nope.

Oh I think it has some entertainment value. My mom was all into the Love signs/Sun signs/personality thing while I grew up which was interesting, but as far as predictive of anything. Hell no.
I'm a skeptic.

[Symarip]

7. I remember wandering into one of those new agey stores with an ex once

There was a book combining Chinese and Western Astrology together. I thought it was fucking genius some hippy figured out how to milk two bullshit belief systems to make one unique pile of shit.

I think there's a real future in this. Think about Scientology mixed with Jehovah's Witnesses! Muslim's and Odenists together as one!! The possibilities are limitless...

[TZ]

17. BTW, when people want to argue with me about Astrology

I say well Ronnie Reagan believed in it...Sooo there ya go..proof enough that its bullshit right there..:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

21. Though, I bet there are "astrologists" that are better forecasters of the weather

than the local TV channel meterologists!!



Channel 2 - Norm Lewis!

[XemaSab]

2. It's bullshit

Why should the personality of someone born on July 19 differ markedly from that of someone born a week later?

Yeah, no reason.

If the claim was a loose correlation between personality and the season you were born in, that could possibly make some some sense, but the day? No.

[lost-in-nj]

3. no

because my horoscope NEVER matches my day



lost

[Heidi]

4. It's like how any other random thing can make you think of something

you need to work on. Opening the Bible to a random page can do the same thing -- even for a non-believer (and I'm one of those). At the same time, opening my eyes at any random moment to what's going on in the street outside my home can do the same thing. For me, anyway. If you're seeking, you're gonna find _something_. :shrug:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

33. Seek,

and ye shall find :) :hi:

[Symarip]

35. If that's the case

Why make a ritual out of it. Why not open up the horoscope and have some therapist/overpaid expert/homeless person (doesn't matter who it is) tell you to think about your mother or look both ways before you cross the street. The pretense that there's a method to the madness is what I take issue with.

Then again, I think god is Santa Claus for adults. What the fuck do I know.

[tigereye]

76. actually people who take it seriously have a highly complex methodology -

the newspaper version really has little to do with that and is highly simplistic compared with folks who do charts, etc.


(just playing devil's advocate) ;)

[JitterbugPerfume]

5. no

I am a skeptic , and astrology makes zero sense

[Rabrrrrrr]

6. I voted "no", the reason being that I have a brain.

[nickgutierrez]

8. What most of the people above said.

It's good for entertainment value, maybe, but that's about it. There can't possibly be any real predictive value in it.

[arcadian]

9. No, but it believes in me.

[geardaddy]

13. I know what your sign is though.

Tusker: The Narwhal (Icelandic Zodiac)

[geardaddy]

14. Dupe

Delete

[omega minimo]

19. !

:think: :spray:

[redqueen]

10. No. Cause of logic.

It can be fun in a silly way though.

[tigereye]

11. well, it's an interesting past-time for some folks, but I don't see it as serious -

I do know people who do, however, and do charts and such. If it gives them perspective on their lives, I really don't see the harm in it, frankly.

[Symarip]

18. Believing in god is seemingly harmless

But we know different these days. Or do we?

[tigereye]

23. I think a very small part of the religious population make it difficult for others,

but most folks who are religious don't push their beliefs on others constantly. JMO

[Symarip]

50. So the larger, benign group is removed from the smaller, zanier factions?

I find that hard to believe. I think that both are completely dependent on each other's existence.

[tigereye]

54. well, yeah

It's an over-generalization. Most of the mainstream religious folks feel that the RW/fundie folk are outliers and have little to do with them; although those outside religious experience seem to paint them with the same broad brush...

[geardaddy]

12. Only if there are only 12 kinds of people.

[Rambis]

15. Magic 8 ball

[geardaddy]

16. We should come up with a DU zodiac though.

:D

[madinmaryland]

22. Is "Narwhal" a DU Zodiak??

:D

[geardaddy]

24. I think so.

So is "Brazillion" and "Sandra Lee"

[TZ]

25. Brazillion is madinmarylands zodiac sign...

Orrex's too..:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

30. Based on your thread last night, I think we know what your zodiac sign is..

:evilgrin:

[geardaddy]

31. And "but tutcher" is mctatas

[Symarip]

26. It is now

Your horoscope for today:

GET OUT OF BED!!! FUCK YEAH!!!1 TELL PEOPLE IN YOUR WAY TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!!! DON'T BE SCARED OF ASIANS.

TAKE CAUTION THO SOMEONE MIGHT HARPOON YOU.

[Dr. Strange]

28. YOUR SIGN IS FUCKING NARWHAL WITH OLIVE GARDEN RISING!!

[madinmaryland]

37. I see you were born under the sign of the "but-tutcher"

[TZ]

45. No he's the booby tutcher.

Pi Guys the but tutcher. Get it straight! :rofl:

[Dr. Strange]

51. My sign is Geddy Boob-tutcher.

And the men who tutch high places
Must be the ones who stretch
To try and grab at nippledry
Closer to the breasts

Closer to the breasts

[TZ]

52. OMFG!

WIN! Only you could so well pevify..Rush lyrics! :rofl:

[Arugula Latte]

60. I tend to get along best with Cornflake Chickens and White Penises.

Although, in a pinch, I can hang with Branigans.

[woo me with science]

67. 12 Types of DU-ers. Certainly they could make up a Zodiac.

Just for a start, we have:

The CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!11 group

The Woos

The Conspiracy Theorists (maybe part of Woo sign?)

The Cat Fanatics (counterpart to Leo?)

[geardaddy]

83. Good.

I like.

[Swede]

20. It's so hard to predict things,especially the future.

[old mark]

27. Bullshit . nt

[MrScorpio]

29. Not me!

Really

[DevonRex]

32. No, but it's fun sometimes.

[kentauros]

34. Yes!

Woops! Major faux pas. Now I'm pushing my beliefs on an unsuspecting Lounge Public. Run away! Run away!

:P









Oh, by the way, I rec'ed your thread ;)

[omega minimo]

56. well like the other poster said

"it believes in me" :thumbsup:

[Starry Messenger]

36. No.

I like the ideas and the imagery. I collect old books and pictures of about it. I use themes from it in my artwork. But I stopped believing in it quite a few years ago. My mom and quite a few of my friends are still into it, so I kind of nod and smile. The history of it is very interesting though.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

38. No, but it doesn't stop me from checking my horoscope anyways.

Always fun to see how on or off the mark they are.

What I like is the horoscope which rates your day from a 10 to a 0. 10 of course is the perfect day. But I want to know what a 0 day is like--does it involve getting hit by a Mack truck or something?

[Symarip]

39. a 0 is when you're stuck listening to

Air Supply.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

41. Or Kenny G.

:D

[omega minimo]

70. or Journey

:scared:

[Tommy_Carcetti]

42. Ah-ha-ha!

Keeping within the terms of the truce, I see. Good. Very good.

[TZ]

47. Or Smashing Pumpkins...

:evilgrin:

[Symarip]

82. .

z!ng

[Tommy_Carcetti]

85. Or Rush....

Why, who did you think I meant? ;)

[mvd]

44. I agree

I don't believe it's accurate, but it can be fun to check.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

40. Absolutely not.

The very concept is beyond absurd---planets and stars, light years away, somehow impacting my life? Are you nucking futs or what?

Woowooism makes me ill and retards legitimate scientific discovery.

[kentauros]

43. If you're going to dis something, at least get the astronomical and astrological terminology right.

Nothing in the solar system is light years away ;)

Of course, many people make that mistake for many things, even trying to use "light years" as a form of time instead of distance. It's still only a year long :P

[WritingIsMyReligion]

48. Light years aren't used as measurement?

That's what it says right there on Wiktionary:

(astronomy) A unit of length (abbreviation ly) equal to the distance light travels in one year; used to measure extremely large distances.

Sounds like a long measurement to me. I used it in that sense.

[kentauros]

53. Yes, it is used as a distance, only.

The solar system is not even a single light year across from one side of Pluto's orbit to the other. Astrology doesn't consider the Oort cloud, other than the occasional major comet. Some of the major asteroids are now being used as I understand it, though I don't know anything more beyond that.

Now if you had said "light days" that would have been an acceptible distance :)

[slutticus]

65. The sun is about 0.000002 light years away.

Is that not a distance?

[kentauros]

68. I really "believe" that you should read ALL of my words before asking your questions

;)

Did I not state in the subject of my previous post that the term "light year" is indeed a measurement of distance, only?
Perhaps I should restate it: The term "light year" is only ever used to measure astronomical distances, and no planet within the Solar System is anywhere near approaching a full light year away.

Now, for further clarity of the words posted in this subthread, from WritingIsMyReligion's post starting it (if you do not mind me quoting it, WritingIsMyReligion, that is :))

"The very concept is beyond absurd---planets and stars, light years away, somehow impacting my life?"

Now then, as I know the bare minium about astrology and probably far more about astronomy, what I do know is that it is a misnomer that planets and stars literally "light years" away have anything to do with astrology as normally practiced on our fair planet. Thus my contention that one should know a little about the subject to be dissed when making such a statement.

Your post about the distance of Terra to Sol as being a phenomenally small light-year distance is, in fact, correct, as it is a true measure of the distance by the amount of time it takes light to travel along that line.

Perhaps you were confused because I pointed out that too many people make the mistake as well of using a "light year" as a measure of time, when a "light year" will always only ever be a year long in time ;)

However, I do fully know and realize that if anyone around here ever professes an interest in any of the not-so-accepted "arts" of this fine world then it is automatically assumed that person is also less educated and/or less intelligent.

Does that clarify the words posted in the above subthread adequately enough? :P

[omega minimo]

71. What you call that name is the foundation of scientific discovery

[LanternWaste]

46. No, but I do think...

No, but I do think that gazing at stars during the twilight hours of an early Texas summer evening is one of the most beautiful things imaginable.



One of my close pals is into astrology, another pal is an actual astronomer-- I try never to go out with both of them at the same time as they argue too much (science v religion and its concomitant ugliness) which tends to diminish the actual beauty going on around me. <sigh>

But individually, they are both really cool to listen to when stargazing-- I get lots and lots of different perspectives, stories and gems of knowledge from both of them.

[Ohio Joe]

49. No

As previously said, its bullshit.

[mitchum]

55. No, we Tauruses are not superstitious

[Arugula Latte]

57. Of course I do. And my unicorn and the alien who probed me do too.

[HERVEPA]

58. Makes as much sense as most religion

[UTUSN]

59. Momentarily, during the reading of it (every day) but then forget it all day UNLESS

it turns out to be a really bad day upon which I say something like, "I shouda known 'cause the horoscope said it."

So, while NOT believing in it, why would I get very upset with a certain newspaper astrologer who seems to have a vendetta against Pisces. This would be one Jacqueline BIGAR, who puts up to 5 stars per sign per day, 5 being best, and hardly any of the signs get the dreaded ONE star except Pisces, rather frequently!1


But other than that, no, I don't believe in it!1

[Arugula Latte]

61. Well, sheesh, everyone knows Pisces deserve to be stoned by an angry mob.

Evil, evil bastids.

[RebelOne]

62. I only believe in it when the forecast is good. n/t

[Zavulon]

63. No, because

there is no logical reason to do so.

[SoxFan]

64. I'm open-minded about a lot of weird stuff...

but astrology is crap.

Even if I am the walking, breathing embodiment of an Aries:


Aries Positive Traits

Inventive with lots of courage
Confident and Enthusiastic
Sharp and quick-minded
Fiery and warm, passionate and expressive. Possessing a strong sense of urgency.

Aries Negative Traits

Can be self-centered at times and prone to being quick-tempered
Impulsive and impatience
Takes unnecessary risks
A procrastinator at times

[elshiva]

66. No, it's just too vague. The readings could be anything.

"You'll find success in business today." or something
Also, always something vague about romance. :eyes:

[FloridaJudy]

69. Not in the least

But then we Pisces tend to be skeptics, so it's not surprising.

[omega minimo]

72. Astrology is the origin of astronomy

:thumbsup:

[Chemical Bill]

73. Unlike 85% of the people (so far)...

I have actually studied astrology. I do not consider the subject a system that one "believes" in. It isn't a religion, that says you will go to hell if you don't follow these rules. It is something that I use, mostly for the psychological insights I can get from it. If you don't want to study astrology, fine. BTW, my degree is in chemistry. I don't "believe" in chemistry, either.

Bill

[omega minimo]

74. well there it is

the voice of reason :applause:

[kentauros]

75. Oooooo, nicely stated!

[TZ]

78. I am familiar with the "study" of astrology

having grown up around some who did it. And yes, its like a religion as it is faith based as there is NO scientific basis for it. None. Buddism is a religion too that also doesn't say you will go to hell either. Something can be psuedoscience without being "a religion" btw. Astrology=pseudoscience...Astronomy=science. To say anything else is not rational. Astrology IS faith based. Whatever your degree is in, does not change the rules of nature btw. Does saying I have a degree in zoology mean I can declare there is no god because I believe it is so,make it so? Of course not. Thats MY personal belief.

[Chemical Bill]

80. That's funny.

The anecdotal evidence you base your belief on is the exact opposite of the scientific method.

Bill

[TZ]

81. of course it is.

Thats the point I'm making here. Astrology is based on anecdoctal evidence. Unless you think Reagan predicted the fall of the Berlin wall because his Astrologer told him the moon was in Aquarius?

[LostinVA]

86. A small point: Buddhism is technically a philosophical/ethical path

That can or cannot also be your religion.

But, I agree with everything else!

[OffWithTheirHeads]

77. I'm not real sure about reality

Why the hell would I believe in Astrology?

[Lucian]

79. Hell no.

[SteppingRazor]

84. Course not. Gigantic balls of burning gas billions of light years away have no effect on my life.

n/t

[omega minimo]

87. Just the gigantic balls of burning gas that TELL you that affect your life..........

:hi: