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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:30 PM
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What's the difference between longshoremen and stevedores?
Aren't they both supposed to put stuff from the docks onto the boats a/o stuff from the boats onto the docks? Yet I got told by someone that there's a distinction between them--someone who was not able to explain what that distinction was.

So now the job is yours. What's the difference?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:37 PM
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1. Unionization.
"Longshoremen" are unionized & they earn a living wage.
"Stevadores" are day-to-day TEMP laborers, and they earn SQUAT.

At least that's the "difference" I've noticed
in my limited experience with folks who do such work.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:58 PM
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4. thanks -- the Longshoremen's Union here in Houston are goddamn awesome
They're good dependable liberal Democrats and make our local party stronger.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:39 PM
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2. Wikipedia says they're synonyms, just different origins:
from the Wiki entry for "stevedore":

The word "stevedore" originated in Spain or Portugal, and entered the English language through its use by sailors. It started as a phonetic spelling of Spanish estibador or Portuguese estivador = "a man who stuffs", here in the sense of "a man who loads ships", which was the original meaning of "stevedore"; compare Latin stīpāre = "to stuff".<2> In the United Kingdom, men who load and unload ships are usually called dockers while in the United States and Canada the term longshoreman, derived from "man-along-the-shore," is used.<3> In Canada the term "stevedore" has also been used, for example in the name of the Western Stevedoring Company, Ltd., based in Vancouver, B.C. in the 1950s.<4>
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:56 PM
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3. Yes, I'd read the wiki on it--I found it less than informative
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 11:44 PM
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8. There's a sailor joke in there somewhere...
What with all that "stuffing" business.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 01:20 AM
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10. I love your narwhals!
:thumbsup:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:58 PM
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5. Longshoremen know how to curse.
They go to a special school for it.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 09:09 PM
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6. None. They would both be disappointed & disaproving of their artistic sons. n/t
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 11:51 PM
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9. ..
:rofl:

that was funny.

:hug:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 10:09 PM
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7. (US) Stevedores are Republicans, Longshoremen are Democrats
Just kidding, in relation to the union bit.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:20 AM
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11. The common modern US usage is that the stevedore is...
the company that hires the longshoremen. Technically, there isn't any difference, but I wouldn't go down to the docks and call the guys you find there stevedores.





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