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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 10:54 PM
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Harry potter is way better than Twilight.
Me and my cousin had an argument today on the phone. It turns she really likes (to the point of brain washed obsession)the Twilight books and she informed me that HP sucked and was for children. I patiently told her that HP was a lot better than a book about vegetarian vampires who wear to much makeup. After a few minutes of telling her off she hung up. I did not go to midnight party's to buy one of the greatest books ever to be told it sucks by my confused cousin.x(
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:00 PM
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1. Harry Potter is awesome.
I don't know about Twilight, but I don't want to read it or see the movie.
How can it be as good as...
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:33 PM
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4. What is that a pic of?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:38 PM
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8. Buffy rocks!
I miss that show
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:06 PM
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2. Harry Potter could administer a SAVAGE beatdown
on those wimps from Forks.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:33 PM
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3. I agree
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:34 PM
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5. Harry could kick some wimpy vampire ass, no contest.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:34 PM
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6. I've not seen or read either.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:41 PM
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9. ...
:o
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:38 PM
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7. well duh!
of course Harry Potter is better

Rowling has talent!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:56 PM
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10. Anything that gets kids reading is ok.
Twilight most likely does suck, especially when compared to the literary genius that is the HP series. However, if it's getting kids to read it's not all bad. Reading nearly anything is better than the mindless drek that is tween/teen television.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:37 AM
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16. true...
but dreck is dreck, written or no.

Still, it gets them to a library or bookstore, and you never know what might catch their eye
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 03:46 AM
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20. Well yeah, just get them reading anything.
So many kids resist reading because it's not cool or whatever. But if you can suck them in with some trendy thing you might get them hungry to read other things. That's where you can slip in some good shit.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:12 AM
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11. Word! nt
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:16 AM
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12. From everything I've heard about Twilight, its entirely possible that my last bowel movement was
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 12:17 AM by DarkTirade
better than Twilight.

I'll reserve complete judgement until/if I bother to read them though.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 07:01 AM
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24. Don't waste your time. The writing is atrocious.
The only good thing I can say about those books is they did get reluctant readers to read. And, they make a good starter for a bon fire.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:25 AM
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13. Vampires are so overdone
Honestly, if I have to read another book about a woman who falls in love with a vampire, I'm going to stake - pun intended - out the author's house with a wreath of garlic and a thermos of holy water. While a vampire bite beats botox for retaining your youthful good looks, and the prospect of partying all night is appealing, the diet is monotonous. After a few years of nothing but 0- and AB+, and no matar paneer, dim sum dumplings or quesadillas, I'd be looking up Von Helsing myself.

And when devout Mormons start writing PG rated vampire romances, you know the genre has jumped the shark.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:32 AM
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14. It's not all PG
I hear the last book has a fantastically gruesome childbirth scene.


As if it needed anything to make the series even less appealing to me. :scared:
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:57 AM
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22. ...
:applause::applause:

I am completely uninterested in vampires...
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:50 AM
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29. lol
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Nicole Lambeth Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:34 AM
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15. well, if you both want to feel superior
read an Anita Blake vampire novel by Laurell K. Hamilton. Warning: they do have graphic sex scenes. That really, really suck. Her first few were kinda bumpy, and then the series got okay, and now it's just devolved into horribly done erotica. Seriously, a few pages in will make you appreciate Twilight a WHOLE lot more.

And my vote is that Harry rocks, even though I'll admit to having read all 4 Twilight books. ;-)
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:46 AM
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28. I read some of those
You're right, they went downhill pretty quickly. After a while they just got boring--not much dramatic tension when it becomes clear that no matter what happens, Blake will never be seriously injured by any of her enemies.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:58 AM
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17. Harry Potter was much better, no doubt.
And the main character in Harry Potter isn't desperately in love with an obsessed stalker. Harry Potter's main ambition in life isn't to die and eternally adore that stalker.

The Twilight books are entertaining, but you can't really compare them to the HP books.

For much, much better vampire books than Twilight, how about these:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1671030/top_five_underappreciated_vampire_novels.html?cat=38

Those Who Hunt The Night is probably the best one I've read so far.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 09:44 PM
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31. Holy shit, another Hambly-vampire fan!
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 09:46 PM by BreweryYardRat
I don't like much of Ms. Hambly's other work, but her vampire books are FANTASTIC.

Have you read "Traveling With the Dead" yet?

And if you liked Hambly's vampires, try George R.R. Martin's "Fevre Dream." Vampires on the Mississippi River in the mid-1800s.

Edit: Thanks for the link -- I may get "The Dracula Tape."
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 02:04 AM
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34. Yes, I read it a long time ago
and I've been hoping ever since that she would write a third vampire novel. Unfortunately, she's been taken up with other projects and it doesn't look like she'll be going back to vampires. :(

If George R. R. Martin has written a vampire book I'll bet that has to be good. That will be worth checking out. :)
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 02:00 AM
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18. "Let the Right One In" is the quintessential vampire movie and book
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 02:01 AM by EastTennesseeDem
for me, ever, and for many, in a long time.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:51 AM
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21. That's one of the best vampire movies ever!
That climactic scene at the indoor pool is one of the most brilliant ever filmed. It renewed my faith in vampire movies after seeing "Twilight" with its sparkly vampires. Vampires don't sparkle in sunlight, they burst into flames.
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 09:53 AM
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25. The climax is absolutely stunning.
To have that atmosphere of serenity all throughout the film and then to end it like that...ingenious.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 09:57 PM
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33. Just picked up the book at the library.
Though I like the way Eli and her servant/keeper just arrived without a back story in the film. It worked. I suspect the book will reveal that aspect. Great film.

Meanwhile, I'll wait for the subtitle issue to sort itself out before making a purchase.
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 02:06 AM
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35. I do too
I honestly thought the film was better simply because of the restrained subtlety.

That's not to say I didn't love the book. I did.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 02:31 AM
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19. For vampires, I enjoyed the Cirque Du Freak series by Darren Shan.
Pretty graphic imagery, and a terrific plot thread.

Really enjoyed HP too. I got hooked on the series reading them with my son, and have re-read all the books at least once.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 07:00 AM
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You can't even compare the two authors.
The Twilight series had an interesting premise and if they were written by JK Rowling, they would be outstanding books.

As it is, Stephanie Meyer totally succeeded in hitting her target audience; tween girls.

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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:07 AM
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26. Thank you! ITA. There is no comparison.
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 11:07 AM by Witchy_Dem
I also don't think Rowling can write all that well. While reading it aloud to my kids she started to grate on my nerves. However! She did spin a fantastic story.

I read Twilight and I think that Meyer was able to keep a great pace but her writing is atrocious!

Are people comparing them because they are women? Or is it because there are werewolves in the plot? Doesn't make sense to me that these two get lumped together for comparison.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:27 AM
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27. I think people are comparing them because of the enormous success
of the Twilight series. Kind of a 'what did I miss, I should check it out' thing.

Now, I have a 12yo daughter, so I have been immersed in what is all Twilight for quite a while. She didn't like the books, liked the premise and loved the movie.

Robert Pattison is her David Cassidy, :rofl:
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:04 PM
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30. I have said that several times, David Cassidy or Peter Frampton!
Ok, I'll bite on the success comparison as well as adding in the YA category.

*standing corrected*
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:45 AM
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37. that's not saying much
midlo-obatarian.

it's like hitting the broad side of a barn with an atomic bomb at point blank range. sure it looks impressive, but you can't see the wreckage left in it's wake.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:59 AM
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39. I agree
JK Rowling is by far the stronger writer. What killed me about Stephanie Meyer, was that she would pick a word and beat it to death throughout the entire book. Why her editors didn't buy her a thesaurus is a mystery to me.

What Meyer was good at was accurately capturing the excitement and fear every girl feels when they experience sexual attraction for the first time. Every glance, every touch, the sheer thought of the first kiss...it's all so electrifying. Reading Twilight took me back to that time in my life (sans vampires of course). It makes sense that tween girls would love this series.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 07:00 AM
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23. delete
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 07:01 AM by piratefish08
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 09:48 PM
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32. Are you fucking kidding?
The author of the Twilight series writes like a 5th grader--and that's what my kids claim!

HP is far more complex than anything Twilight has to offer--the proof is in the millions of books sold, read and the movies. Also, once you've become hooked on better vamp books (Anne Rice, for one) Twilight is boring as hell. I'm sorry but we tried by reading one book and couldn't wait until it was OVER. The movie was even worse.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 09:37 AM
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36. I'm going to hang out at the Prancing Pony with the hobbits and dwarves...
...until this argument is over.
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:46 AM
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38. it's a real shame
that the baggins family left town, they knew how to set a mean table for those unexpected guests...
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