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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 08:55 AM
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Your opinion, please, on a bumper sticker I saw
It showed the Confederate flag and read something like "You don't have the right to tell me not to honor my ancestors."

Thoughts?
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:01 AM
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1. That sounds reasonable unless you look at it this way.
How would the same be received in Germany if a person were to show a swastika with that quote on a bumper sticker? I'm guessing not very well.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:05 AM
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13. They might not like that in Germany but
here they make it a sign, swastika and all and take it to town hall meetings where the Goobers all cheer!
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:02 AM
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2. perhaps an updated version of the hated republican sticker from 2000
you lost--get over it


Ya know, we could use that bumper sticker for other things too.....
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:03 AM
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3. My translation goggles read "Hi, I'm a racist dumbfuck"
They work pretty well.

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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:22 AM
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4. I'd say that....
the First Amendment gives me the right to tell you just about anything I damn well please.
I'll concede, however, that the Government doesn't have the right to forbid you from "honoring" your ancestors by showing that flag.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:31 AM
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5. You have the right to strut your bigotry--just don't expect me to agree.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:32 AM
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6. I'd compliment the driver
on his/her purty mouth.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:51 AM
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7. So he has a right to crow about the pro slavery south
but you don't have the right to tell him what you think about that.

Typical right wing double standard
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:53 AM
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8. So he's a secessionist?
Huh.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:08 AM
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9. Doofus.
Hiding racism behind ancestor-worship.

I can't guarantee it, of course, but that's my first thought.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:09 AM
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10. Actually I do have the right to tell him that. He has the right not to like it.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:55 AM
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12. good point, free speech is a two way street.
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gbate Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:16 AM
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11. Co-worker of mine has one that reads "Heritage, not Hate"
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:10 AM
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14. It's a mixed bag.
How does he honor his ancestors? I have ancestors who fought in the CSA too, I'm not ashamed of them, but I don't believe racism, prejudice and segregation does them any particular honor either.

Senator Jim Webb wrote a book called "Born Fighting" which dealt on the subject of Confederate remembrance a little. Most Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves, they thought they were fighting to defend their homes (this is important, what a man or woman believes they're fighting for is as important, if not more so than what they're really fighting for, because it is what motivates them) As such, I respect that those ancestors who wore gray in the Civil War did so for reasons that they felt were honorable. I don't believe that they fought because they loved slavery or were raging racists (indeed in the case of one of them, I know with certainty he wasn't) but I accept that 140+ years after the fact, we realize they fought on the wrong side.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:18 PM
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15. He's right. In turn, he has no right to force me to honor to his ancestors either.
That's why I generally oppose having confederate flags flown in certain public places.
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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:47 PM
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16. "I'm not a racist but"
Anyone who starts a sentence with that is about to say something outrageously racist.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:49 PM
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17. I hate black people
And I hate you for not hating black people.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:56 PM
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18. "And why exactly do you want to honor THOSE ancestors?"
would make a nice complimentary bumper sticker.
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