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smoochpooch Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:24 AM
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Was Larry David more responsible for the funniness of "Seinfeld" than Jerry Seinfeld?
I ask because I have seen Seinfeld's "The Marriage Ref" a couple times and it is terribly unfunny. Additionally, when good ol' Jerry appeared on "The Marriage Ref" and whenever I have seen him as a guest on talk shows like Letterman, all his jokes seem about 20 years old. It feels like comedy has just passed him by over the last 20 years (I will readily admit that his comedy from the 80's has been hugely influential).

Meanwhile, Larry David's show continues to be funny and his appearance on "The Marriage Ref" was one of the show's more refreshing moments. I can't help but wonder if the person who made "Seinfeld" as funny as it was just so happens to be Mr. David. :shrug:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:28 AM
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1. If he was, then he must have been responsible for the dramatic decline of "Seinfeld"
its last 2 or 3 years were stunningly unfunny.
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smoochpooch Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:32 AM
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2. Agreed, it was still popular when it went off the air, but it did overstay its welcome. nt
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:47 AM
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3. He left after the 7th season, it ended with the 9th, he wrote the final episode
The DVD commentary for the series basically acknowledges the fact that it became a different show when he left.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:50 AM
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4. Yeah, I vote for Larry David
He's consistently funny, whereas Jerry was funny when he first was doing standup. I saw him on TDS recently and didn't find him very funny at all, in fact he was sorta jerkish. But he was funny on Curb this past season, so yeah, it's LD.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:59 AM
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5. No doubt. n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:28 AM
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6. yes
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 07:08 AM
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7. Yes, absolutely and undeniably
Saw Seinfeld's act live after the show was over and did not laugh once. Compare that to any given half hour of Curb Your Enthusiasm and you have your answer.

Also notice how the Seinfeld show started to suck right after Larry David left.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:18 AM
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8. Have you seen "Whatever Works"?
He was so unfunny it was painful I can't stand him.
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:05 PM
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16. Saw it a few weeks ago, and it was a stinker.
Still like LD though.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:32 PM
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19. Wasn't that a Woody Allen movie?
He's definitely not a good actor (LD that is). But when he writes the material it's definitely funnier.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:44 AM
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9. 100% yes. LD was about 90% and the cast around Jerry was the
other 10%. Jerry could have been a card board cut out with a voice recording for the same effect.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:04 PM
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15. Someone said the cast must have a lot of back problems...
from carrying Jerry for 9 seasons...
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 10:45 AM
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10. Watch a single episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm." You'll have your answer.
(It's Larry David.)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:49 PM
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12. Personally I'd recommend "The Doll" from season 2.
:rofl:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:57 PM
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14. yeah...pretty hard to top that. anything with extended Susie. also
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:17 PM
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17. "Get me the HEAD!!!"
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 03:15 PM
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21. Suzie is hilarious. I loved watching her reactions in "Officer Krupke" from this season.
"I'm Larry David, I happen to enjoy wearing women's panties!"

:rofl:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:54 AM
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23. "The Doll" is awesome--but "Christ Nail" is priceless--then, of course
there's the time Larry David tried to 'help' his Tourette's-afflicted chef...

NOT WORK SAFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFnLpXzkw4Y
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:21 PM
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24. I like the one where Rob Corddry is a sex offender and Larry invites him to Seder.
:rofl:
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:23 PM
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22. Absolutely! Curb Your Enthusiasm ends this debate.
At least twice as funny as Seinfeld.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:45 PM
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11. Absolutely.
Curb Your Enthusiasm - especially this season with the Seinfeld reunion - is proof that Larry David was the real brains behind the operation.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:49 PM
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13. you want funny? here:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:19 PM
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18. Yes, Larry David was the brains behind that
Seinfeld, while funny, could not act to save his life. At times it was almost painful to watch him.

That was a really clever show about how people interact and what happens when they don't do what is expected in certain situations.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:34 PM
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20. Jerry Seinfeld was not funny. That's the gag.
It's a show about an unfunny stand up comedian and his goofy friends.

That's why when Seinfeld went on tour after the show he quickly canceled it because he kept getting booed off the stage.

That's why when everybody does an impression of a bad stand up comedian, they do a Seinfeld impersonation.
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