Iceberg painted red in Denmark

[nini]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040325/ap_on_re_eu/greenland_red_iceberg

"COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Off the coast of western Greenland, in an area saturated by slow-moving ice floes and white icebergs, the blood red one stands out by design.

"We all have a need to decorate Mother Nature because it belongs to all us," Chilean-born Danish artist Marco Evaristti said Thursday. "This is my iceberg; it belongs to me."

"On Wednesday, he used 3,000 liters (780 gallons) of paint diluted with sea water, three fire hoses, two icebreakers and a 20-man crew to spray the chunk of ice floating in the water."

YOUR Iceberg??????? Having seen glaciers in Alaska and knowing how breathtakingly beautiful they are, this pisses me off. Who the hell does this guy think he is ?

f'cker.. it looks horrible and the red paint!!! :mad:

[GOPisEvil]

1. WTF?!

What happens when the paint runs off into the sea? Is it toxic? I sure as hell hope not.

That red looks like shit!

[nini]

4. I'm trying to find more info on the paint..

it sounds like it was regular paint, but diluted.

GOD DAMN this makes me mad. I would kick that guys' ass if I knew where he was

[northzax]

12. the article claims

that it is the same dye used to hilight meat, so I guess that makes it safe.

[RobertSeattle]

2. What a narcasistic waste

:puke:

[Kellanved]

20. well, there are worse expressions of art

Some time ago an "artist" dropped a dead cow from a helicopter and had a naked couple dancing in the blood. Compared to that a iceberg painted with food paint is IMHO acceptable (although not pleasing).

[mopinko]

23. art is not about pleasing

it is about TRUTH, not beauty.

[Kellanved]

25. yes

I could not agree more.

[mopinko]

26. many more thruths are ugly

than beautiful.

[TheBlob]

3. They found The Blob!

For the record, I don't approve.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

32. It looks yucky

As if 100,000,000 fish mutated due to some weird chemical in the water and spliced into a murderous, giant blob.

Either that, or am I seeing too many B-movies lately.

[mopinko]

43. too many

snuff movies.













kidding

[mopinko]

5. "Who the hell does this guy think he is ?"

he's an artist, of course. which would you rather see, an artist reaching out to belong to nature, or the usual * shit?
chill people. save your outrage for something harmful.

[nini]

8. he has no right to affect the environment in his 'artisitic quests'

He can reach out to nature all he wants, but using paint?

He does not OWN the iceberg, none of us do and no one should assume they can do what they want to things that are not his own.

But, he did succeed in getting attention for his narcissistic personality which is all it's about anyway. Being part of nature.. my ass.

[mopinko]

21. how do you know he did?

i doubt that the "paint" used was toxic.
"attention for his narcissistic personality"
yes this is what artists do. but we do not speak only for ourselves. we speak for what is human, and usually not very commercial.
i applaud this guy for an artwork that is not a commodity.
do you really want a world without art? or do you just want a world full of thomas kinkade?



fine bunch of liberals you all are here. freedom of expression, anyone?

[nini]

27. Who's against freedom of expression?

just don't express it on something that is not uniquely yours. I suppose graffiti on my garage door is ok too because some punk wants to express himself?

I don't want to see his vision when I am looking at the natural beauty of mother earth.

I have yet to see that the 'paint' he used will do no harm.

btw: Thomas Kinkade is a dork. I can't stand his factory crap.

[mopinko]

31. oh, it was YOUR iceberg?

your personal iceberg? my bad /sarcasm off/

"Who's against freedom of expression?"
apparently, you.

[KinkyDem]

No damnit! That was MY iceberg

and I said he could!

[DrWeird]

35. No right to affect the environment in artistic quests.

<>

[KinkyDem]

38. Thank you

This was the same thing I thought of when I read some of this.

Don't we effect nature everytime we build a house, make a city, dig up components for computers?

At least this guy chose something that will melt.

[curse10]

6. this is the same jack ass who though it was art to grind up goldfish

in a blender. I'm not surprised. Can't wait to see what he thinks of next :eyes:

[mopinko]

9. to be accurate

HE did not grind up the fish. he put them in a blender, and gallery patrons pushed the buttons. probably people confused and hostile about art, like some of you.

[curse10]

19. he created the circumstances in which this was allowed to happen

and, in fact, asked patrons to do it. This is not about being hostile to art. This is about being hostile to someone who has no respect for the environment or animal life.

[mopinko]

22. well, to me

it is about freedom of expression, something that is oddly unpopular here. and i don't think you have any evidence that he harmed anything.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

34. That begs another question

In which sorry jurisdiction that was even LEGAL? If he tried that stunt in Brazil he (and all people who pushed the buttons) would be thrown in jail for animal cruelty faster than you can say "Wanda".

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

33. /me repeats to self:

Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.
Abstain to express self's opinion about mopinko. Having moderator warnings is bad.

[mopinko]

42. take a deep breathe and

repeat after me-
reading a few posts on a chat board is not the same as actually knowing someone.
reading a few posts on a chat board is not the same as actually knowing someone.
reading a few posts on a chat board is not the same as actually knowing someone.
reading a few posts on a chat board is not the same as actually knowing someone.
reading a few posts on a chat board is not the same as actually knowing someone.
reading a few posts on a chat board is not the same as actually knowing someone.

really, you don't know me at all. i bet if we had a couple of brews together, you might actually like me. don't blow a gasket.

[KinkyDem]

36. There were sociological studies done

some time back where people were told to shock someone they didn't know, most of those people continued to shock the other until they were dead.

This was all staged of course.

I would expect little else from the public when presented with the oppertunity to kill and maim with some others permission.

How is the artist responsible for what others do? How is the gallary owner responsible for what others do?

Is Ford responsible when some ass runs me over in a cross walk because if the driver hadn't had the oppertunity to drive an automobile I never would have been run over?

The person that pushed the button is to blame, not the person who put the button there.

[mopinko]

41. whether or not people would do this is an IMPORTANT

thing to talk about. and btw, the gallery Owen was charged with cruelty and acquitted.

[KinkyDem]

44. I read that bit too

Hey, if someone walks up to you and hands you the means to cause harm you are responsable (assuming your an adult) for whatever harm you cause.

[Spider Jerusalem]

7. Hm. A Chilean-born Dane wioth an Italian name...

who sounds like a conservative's idea of a sterotypical Frenchman, oddly enough. "I am Pierre. I am an artiste. The iceberg, it speaks to me. But the nature, it speaks to all of us, n'est ce-pas? It is saying, I am here for you. Take me. Ravage me. Treat me like the filthy little whore I am. And so I mark the iceberg like so: rouge, the colour of the whore. So that nature knows what she is. Because it is mine, no? Excuse me now, I need a cigarette."

[Rabrrrrrr]

17. LOL!!

Perfectly said!

"Antoine, ravage me - I have created!"

[mopinko]

24. you should be ashamed of yourself

an artist? laughing at this shit? do you expect anyone to stick up for your artistic rights?

[Rabrrrrrr]

29. Strange, I don't remember laughing at the artwork at all

I remember laughing at SpiderJerusalem's comments.

Perhaps you should notice the difference, now that I've spelled it out.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. photo ...it sure is red!...but isn't paint harmful to sealife ASSHOLE?

[Fleshdancer]

11. well that looks weird

I think this planet would be much better off if we believed we belonged to Mother Earth rather than believing Mother Earth belongs to us.

[underpants]

13. MAn that SLURPEE is going to give someone quite the brain freeze

:bounce:

[klook]

14. At least Christo cleaned up

after the Pepto Bismol project. This guy's approach is in sharp contrast to that of Andy Goldsworthy, who uses only natural materials found on site.

[mopinko]

15. personally,

i think it looks cool. and i thank him, cuz i would not have thought about icebergs today.

[mopinko]

16. also, don't judge too much by the "sound bite"

or whatever you want to call these little yahoo bits. there is probably a lot more too it. we all know how the whore media likes to paint things, don't we.

[KinkyDem]

37. mopinko, I'm with you.

I think it looks sorta cool.

It would appear that the paint is at least mostly harmless.

As far as permenant goes, iceburgs melt.

I don't get the reaction to this.

[DrWeird]

18. I would assume it's environmentally safe...

until told other wise. Danes are a lot more environmentally aware then most Americans, there would be a major outrage if he were dumping lead paint in the ocean. There are plenty of safe, biodegradable paints and dyes that could do this job. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Rabrrrrrr]

30. The article says he used only the dye used to color meat,

so, barring any potential bribes the dye maker may have made to the FDA (or Danish equivalent), it should be fully safe in an ocean environment.

[HalfManHalfBiscuit]

28. Cry me a river

Non-toxic coloring and it looks really cool. Mabye he can do a striped one next.

[Lars39]

39. Looks like blood.

Reminded me of seal pups getting bashed. :(

[mopinko]

40. maybe that was the intent?

blood is something very important for artists to discuss/refer to.