interesting work on emotions and facial expression

[Kali]

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/60844/title/Botox_injections_put_a_crease_in_emotional_evaluations

For more than a century, scientists have posited that facial expressions trigger and intensify relevant feelings, rather than simply advertise what an individual already feels. Botox patients provide a novel line of support for this idea, as well as for the notion that facial expressions activate links between brain regions responsible for emotions and language, says psychology graduate student David Havas of the University of Wisconsin–Madison.

[lunatica]

1. I read the article but it didn't clarify much of anything

I'm sure the findings were interesting and maybe even useful, but what were they? Slower reading of sentences about emotions? I don't get what that demonstrates.

[Kali]

2. the concept that facial expression was connected to ability to read

emotion is new to me - hadn't heard of that before

the finding was that these women with frozen faces had a delay in interpreting negative emotional concepts - because they couldn't frown actually affected their ability to "see" evidence that would normally cause the frown.

[rug]

3. The study needs more work.

[Kali]

4. the plain old glasses really set that look off

:rofl:

[Call Me Wesley]

5. Laughter ...

... is a devilish wind which deforms, uh, the lineaments of the face and makes us look like monkeys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufFIjtbE9uQ

[pitohui]

6. superstitious bullshit, botox patients prove no such thing

i've never met anyone who had botox who lost their ability to express themselves, having a lot of wrinkles does not enhance your ability to express yourself, that's just crap

do toddlers without wrinkles fail to get their emotions across? no, of course they don't

the hatred against older women trying to improve themselves just has to stop, of course we are equally if not more hated if we just let ourselves go

for the record, if botox really interfered w. your freedom of facial expression, every serious poker player would be getting botox, just as serious players will try ritalin or another performance enhancing drug -- it just doesn't happen because the claim that botox interferes w. your ability to express yourself w. your face is just that, bullshit

also, what a boon botox would be for those middle-aged mood swings IF it really did help moderate emotion, but of course, it does no such thing

do people really not know any middle-aged or older women at all? your own powers of observation should be enough to prove this for the hoax it is

a desperate student has to invent something to study to get his doctorate, fine, but make it a LITTLE believable, please

[Kali]

7. well I certainly didn't pick up all that from the article

and I haven't ever had a shot:P

what I found interesting was the possibility of a connection between the ability to express an emotion physiologically with the ability to read or feel it.

I didn't read into the article any slam at middle aged women - although I agree the test was pretty tenuous.