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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:57 PM
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The basic question.


Would you give up your 'living' or chance at a life, so some other person or group could have a purpose or not be alone, even if it was a unhappy situation that is not just.

What if that group or person was willing to even hurt your life, or take what makes you happy to imprison you in that situation.



That is actually the tax debate also.


But my point is what if they did not know that is what they do, and the only way to explain it to them would hurt them. How can you educate when a group or person that learns will be hurt by what they learn.



Is it better to give up your life, knowing the other option is that you would have to effectively emotionally hurt, a concept of fighting, even if with education.


At what point should things be corrected and made right, the third option is there has to be a way without having to choose to hurt, yet a person should not be in a bad situation either.


The only answer I could think of was and is, is to choose to not hurt by not showing what a person of conscious better intents, and a mostly good person does that is wrong and why, even if they don't understand the cause and effects, while also not accepting the situation as just or correct, and know that it should change. Although coercion can never have happiness. What if education can hurt also by showing the true reasons for someones actions?




Anyone with comments, it would be interesting to hear thoughts on the issues.




Found a song

Sarah Mclachlan - Answer with Lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKHIxBBfWU

I will be the answer at the end of the line
I will be there for you while you take the time
In the burning of uncertainty, I will be your solid ground
I will hold the balance if you can't look down

If it takes my whole life, I won't break, I won't bend
It will all be worth it, worth it in the end
Because I can only tell you what I know, that I need you in my life
When the stars have all gone out you'll still be burning so bright

Cast me gently into morning
For the night has been unkind
Take me to a, a place so holy
That I can wash this from my mind
The memory of choosing not to fight

If it takes my whole life, I won't break, I won't bend
It will all be worth it, worth it in the end
Because I can only tell you what I know, that I need you in my life
When the stars have all burned out you'll still be burning so bright

Cast me gently into morning
For the night has been unkind
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 06:19 PM
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1. I'm a little confused, but especially by this part.....
'The only answer I could think of was and is, is to choose to not hurt by not showing what a person of conscious better intents, and a mostly good person does that is wrong and why, even if they don't understand the cause and effects, while also not accepting the situation as just or correct, and know that it should change. Although coercion can never have happiness. What if education can hurt also by showing the true reasons for someones actions?'


Could you please restate this piece?

And maybe make it more concise?

Thanks.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 06:39 PM
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2. What if someones error is education.
But showing them there error would show them much sorrow, or remove the purpose of their life.

Then you could correct your situation by destroying another person, even if they live without knowing what they are doing, hence why some education can create issues.

In my situation to correct some issues, I would have to show some people what they are doing, but that would put them in a position of regret.


Basically if a person or group thinks they are doing right, and only hurts a few people, or even yourself, then correcting them is not necessary, nor best choice, only when many are hurt can it be thought to be ok. It explains to me why I have not corrected my situation.

When given the choice to fight, even education can try to be turned to a bad effect, so thinking on it, it is why I don't make some comments to some people, however at the same time I do not accept it as correct, nor a just situation.


Basically it is about choosing hell in life, although never accepting it as just or correct.
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