Anyone here been to the Creation Museum?

[Curmudgeoness]

I have been seeing a guy who I thought was really nice. He said he liked museums. I told him I did too. So he said that we should take a trip to see the Creation Museum, which he has been to already and said it was really interesting. I admit I might find it "interesting" too, but for a whole different reason. As a biology major in college, I cannot imagine what they are saying.

He also told me that the Corn Palace was another place you just have to see.

Gads. How did I go so wrong? This is a game stopper. I'm back to "just me and the cat".

[david13]

1. Whoa. And a lot better off with the cat, too. You know the cat isn't

that wacko.
dc

[Curmudgeoness]

2. I actually know very little about what this cat thinks.

All I know is that he is warm and cuddly and he will not try to take me to the Creation Musuem. He just hates road trips.

[david13]

7. The cat thinks you are warm and cuddly too. Then he falls asleep.

I know how they think.
dc

[nolabear]

3. Oh, I dunno. I'd LOVE both those places.

But then I love kitsch and crazy-assed outsider art installations and lots of that is connected to folk art and religion. Now, if he thinks Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs for real, thats another matter.

[Curmudgeoness]

6. Oh god, we didn't get to that in the discussion.

For anyone who knows me, they will not believe this, but I was speechless.

[nolabear]

9. LOL...I can imagine.

[pokerfan]

4. PZ Myers toured it a couple of years ago

and was horrified:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/08/the_creation_museum_1.php

[Curmudgeoness]

5. Thanks for that link. It was entertaining.

I love how he says "I had no expectation of any kind of credible presentation in this place, but what impressed me most is how far it failed to meet even my low hopes."

:rofl:

[pokerfan]

24. Also this

With complete seriousness and no awareness of the historical abuses to which this idea has been put, they were promoting the Hamite theory of racial origins, that ugly idea that all races stemmed from the children of Noah, and that black people in particular were the cursed offspring of Ham. If they are going to reject science because of its abuses, such as eugenics, they should at least be conscious of the evils perpetrated in the name of their strange cultish doctrines, I should think.

[RandomThoughts]

27. I think believing a curse is the issue for someone

is the failing of superiority complex in an already broken person, that broke so early they didn't learn much.

[tigereye]

8. hmm, there probably needs to be some kind of subtle

dating checklist to avoid things of this sort. :D

Think Glenn Beck is hilarious/brilliant - yes/no
Sarah Palin for Pres- yes/no
Global warming a hoax - yes/no
Earth 6,000 years old - yes/no
Defense of Marriage Act/Prop 8- yes/no
Iraq war good idea? Yes/no.


etc.

[Enthusiast]

11. Great suggestion.

Srsly

[Curmudgeoness]

18. I hope you don't mind if I steal this quiz. It will save lots of time. nt

[tigereye]

21. oh yeah, I just made it up based on being a lefty -

I've been married for like a zillion years. :D

[haele]

10. Which one?

We have one here in Santee. built by the LaHayes - probably with proceeds skimmed from their sheep at Sonrise or Shadow Mountain. It's built in bottomland of the upper part of the San Diego river, and that area does have some nasty flooding during El Nino years...with the way the weather's been going lately, they may end up re-enacting Noah's Flood...

No, I've never made it there, even though Laz and I sometimes joke about going there. It's situated awkwardly off the freeway in an area that used to be deadly hairpin turns coming down off Iron Mountain into the Cajon valley, and there's really a bit of a nasty vibe around there.

Haele

[Enthusiast]

12. I suspect you will be

far better off with the cat.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. The Corn Palace is actually kind of cool in a weird, kitschy way.

But you couldn't drag me to the Creation Museum with a team of wild velociraptors.

[OmahaBlueDog]

17. +1 for the Corn Palace

The Corn Palace is a local sports arena in Mitchell, SD. Every year, the outside is decorated with corn to reflect a different theme. Insidde is a museum explainign all of this, and showing pictures of the Corn Palace, over the years. The Corn Palace, if nothing else, has one overriding virtue -- it's FREE! If you are on your way to Rapic City, I highly recommend a detour off I-90.

[RZM]

14. I've thought about going sometime

I only live a couple hours away from it. I'm sure it would be an amusing excursion :)

[NV Whino]

15. Maybe you should suggest

going to the new Ark they are building instead. :rofl:

Seriously, stick with the cat.

[dawg]

16. "just me and the cat"

Maybe I just need to get a cat, too. Seems like the pool of potential relationship partners out there for me is pretty small, too. I don't mind flawed. I'm flawed. I welcome flawed.

It's just that they all seem fatally flawed to me. Of course, I'm new at this, and haven't really done more than just look. Maybe it's just me and my heartbroke perspective on things.

But I do think it's going to be hard to find one who isn't crazy.

[Curmudgeoness]

19. There is something to be said for cats....

as long as you are not all that interested in sex. The cuddling thing (at least with every cat I have had) is a high priority.

I am sure that there is someone out there for you, and for me. But my list of things that I just will not accept is too long. And it gets longer all the time. I have lived alone for more of my life than I have been with others in the house with me, so I don't have to "settle". I do fine on my own. And that is not a bad thing.

[Arugula Latte]

32. Yes, get a cat!

They are the best pets around and men who like cats automatically get 650 extra points. Seriously, men who like cats are the best -- intelligent, secure in their masculinity, funny, cool, etc.

[Curmudgeoness]

20. A new development, I just got a flower delivery.

Looks like I didn't chase him away yet.

[struggle4progress]

22. You just need more practice negotiating

When somebody suggests going to the Creation Museum, you should say you think everybody would have a better time seeing Le Grande Galerie de l'Evolution at Le Muséum National d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris

If somebody suggests a trip to the Corn Palace, you must be quite sure that El Centro Internacional de la Papa in Lima would be a much more satisfying adventure

[struggle4progress]

23. dupe

[TreasonousBastard]

25. I would love to go to the Creation Museum, and not...

to blow it up. I might not be able to stay too long before my head exploded, but I'm really curious about their planetarium show-- they admit there are distant galaxies.

The Corn Palace is another curiosity I'd like to make it to some day, although not as much as creationland.

I do, however, fully understand that a relationship with anyone who takes either of these places too seriously and considers them the acme of Western culture is doomed. When I think of museums, these are not among the first things that come into my mind.

[Curmudgeoness]

34. This is not what came to my mind when I heard museum either.

I was flabbergast. But you may have a point. Maybe I should take him up on this just to see it.

There was a link to a blog about it though, and it was really creepy. He said that the security guards have police dogs and tasers and do not allow anyone to say anything that would take away from the enjoyment of others (ie you can't laugh too hard). I suppose that would also be another interesting thing to see, if it is true.

[era veteran]

26. This Guy

Creation Museum is killer’s first visit outside Ohio

An Ohio man — who killed his ex-wife’s new husband but was found not guilty by reason of insanity in 2000 — has received permission to leave the state to visit the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky.
It will mark the first time in 11 years that Jeffrey D. Bornhoeft will be allowed to leave Ohio for a trip his father said he is taking because he has become involved with a church since the shooting death.
The court-approved trip, which is scheduled for Saturday, is the latest step toward freedom for Bornhoeft since Nov. 7, 2000, when a Warren County jury found him not guilty by reason of insanity in the shooting death of Jamey Johnson, 23, of Dayton.
During his trial, authorities said Bornhoeft had his ex-wife, Shawn “Candy” Johnson, on the phone as he fired three shots at close range from a .357-caliber revolver into the back of Johnson’s head while he slept in a Lebanon apartment. Bornhoeft then threatened to turn the gun on himself during a three-hour standoff that ended when he surrendered to Lebanon police.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime/creation-museum-is-killers-first-visit-outside-ohio-1074010.html

[HappyMe]

28. Why not go to both?

Out of simple, open minded curiosity.
It's not like you have to convert/get baptized or whatever. Dating and relationships are 50 50 propositions. Go & then take him somewhere that interests you.

[HappyMe]

29. Why not go to both?

Out of simple, open minded curiosity.
It's not like you have to convert/get baptized or whatever. Dating and relationships are 50 50 propositions. Go & then take him somewhere that interests you.




Sorry about dupe.

[Deep13]

30. The Creation Museum pic that got my wife laughing was...

...white, '70's hair-do Adam in the forest with a penguin.

[era veteran]

33. When it opened they had a video of Adam and Eve

Later they found the Adam actor had done porn.... they pulled it.. but then so did Adam

[Curmudgeoness]

35. Oh, that is just too good. I love when bad things happen

to bad people. If I make it down there, I will ask where the video.

No good deeds go unpunished, huh?

:rofl:

[era veteran]

36. Here is a link, sorry about the Fox part

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,279397,00.html

[charlie and algernon]

31. "Apparently the Earth is BILLIONS of years old, not thousands"

I overheard a guy talking on his cell phone while at the Natural History Museum in DC this weekend. Then the guy started to get into an argument with whoever was on the phone and walked away. I was starting to imagine that the person on the phone was getting pissed that this guy was actually learning science and facts. :rofl:

[TreasonousBastard]

37. Wow! I just don't run into those people and can't imagine what it would be like...

to be "awakened" into the knowledge that the world is not what some preacher says it is.