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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 11:56 PM
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Bobby Flay - Iron Chef
oK, so I know Bobby Flay is a big cheese chef, but today watching tv it occurred to me that why he always wins on iron chef:
whenever he competes on IC he absolutely frys the judges' taste buds before they judge the challenger.
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 11:58 PM
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1. i've seen him lose on ica
and it makes me giddy with joy
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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:50 AM
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2. I loved the original Iron Chef
I only watch this one for Alton Brown and the rare appearance by Morimoto.


I am still hallucinating or did William Shatner host Iron Chef for like an episode or two when the American version first started up?


I don't know how that smirky Bobby Flay scored the beautiful Stephanie March.


But I admit I would like to try some of his food. Spicy is yum and when I get to a place where I can have a grill set up like his, I'll be watching his grilling show, taking notes and hoping for a guest appearance by Stephanie.


But at least Bobby is a real chef. I'm not so sure about Iron Chef Simon. I don't like the idea of Iron Chefs getting the job by winning a game show. Weird position, I guess, considering, but I just don't like it a bit.

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:09 AM
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3. Shatner was on "Iron Chef USA," which was on UPN
It was a different show from the current Iron Chef America, and not very good at all. I'm not a huge fan of the current version, though I used to watch it occasionally. It just doesn't have the same campy charm of the original. :)
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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:53 AM
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6. Good. I'm glad I wasn't hallucinating.
I love me some Alton Brown but yeah, the original had the x factor and I don't think any of these current ICs do.

I miss hearing "Fukui-san?"...
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:24 AM
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4. how is symon not a real chef?
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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:51 AM
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5. Oh he probably is -
He probably wouldn't have been picked to be a contestant on the game show had he just been some doofus working at Taco Bell. But I just don't like the idea of him getting epic Iron Status from being on a game show.

I was a huge fan of the original show from Japan and those guys just seemed like larger than life super stars in the culinary world. For all I know they won their jobs from game shows too but I don't know that so they get mythologized and pedestalized in my eyes. I don;t see him as special. Maybe a good chef but not special. (And yes I know the host is an actor as is his "nephew now.)

But shit, at least he ain't Guy Fierieyeieeieio or however he spells it.

I didn't say I was rational, lol, I just said I don't like it a bit.

I guess Iron Chef to me is like wrestling is to that "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME!" guy.

I have a friend who is a chef and he looks at Morimoto, Sakai, Kenichi, Kobe and Michiba as if they were Gods. Symon just isn't godlike to us.


I'd still like to eat his food though. Preferably not after he read this. I hate spit in my food...




I wish Mario Batali was an Iron Chef. That guy has swagger.
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:50 AM
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7. flay isn't godlike either
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 10:51 AM by fizzgig
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 07:10 PM
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16. Chef Symon is an actual chef.
He owns a restaurant in Cleveland. Anthony Bourdain visited the place during his Cleveland episode several years ago, before the "Iron Chef" thing.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 07:13 PM
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17. he also owns one in Downtown Detroit
Roast....and it is wonderful!!!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:48 PM
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8. I remember him competing on the original Iron Chef.
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 12:57 PM by AtomicKitten
He had a petit hizzyfit at conditions at his work station. Someone got water all over the floor and he was really pissed off. He lost. He had a do-over and won, but I swear the Japanese let him win to smooth things over.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:52 PM
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9. he was getting zapped.
the water was shorting power cords and electrifying the steel tables, iirc. it was the first one in america, and in a makeshift kitchen.

not a big bobby fan. but the iron chef rarely looses. zapped tastebuds is a reasonable explanation.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:56 PM
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10. Admittedly he's not my favorite. I do, however, really admire Iron Chef Michael Symon.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:00 PM
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11. i haven't seen too many of the new ones.
used to set my watch by the originals, tho.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:08 PM
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12. The Japanese have such a reverence for food. Americans have pie-eating contests. LOL. /nt
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:53 PM
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13. "The Japanese have such a reverence for food." especially this guy....
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 05:59 PM
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15. LOL. Well Kobayashi has crossed the rubicon into full-on crass Americanism. /nt
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:54 PM
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14. and heat seekers
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 07:28 PM
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18. he's so overexposed. I'm tired of seeing his red head.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 07:28 PM
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19. he's so overexposed. I'm tired of seeing his red head.
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