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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:05 PM
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Catholics - help me out.
What is the difference between Franciscans, Dominicans, and Jesuits?
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:08 PM
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1. do you mean politcially or in general?
in general they are different orders/organizations with basically the same purpose.

Francsicans are of St. Francis, Dominicans of St. Domenico etc...

The members are kind of like nuns, but men/brothers.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:12 PM
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4. I guess I kinda mean in general...
is one "more holy" or more traditional or something while another is more liberal/conservative in their views. Do they differ on a few minor/major points and is there any contention between them or they all under the big catholic tent? Your everyday general catholic would be considered roman catholic, but are they also one of the above?
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:11 PM
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2. do a search for
franciscans dominicans jesuits differences


all kinds of good stuff comes up

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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:13 PM
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yeah I will, just wanted an over view.
I've always been interested in it in the back of my mind, but never actually went about finding out.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:11 PM
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3. The Jesuits are
all priests too i think. The Franciscans are Brothers.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:13 PM
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5. Well, the Jesuits
are sort of the intellectuals of the Church. They are also fairly liberal.

The nuns in my school were Franciscan. Don't remember too much about them except that my music teacher left the Church and had three kids. I thought that was cool.

MzPip
:dem:
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:13 PM
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6. Haven't been a "practicing" Catholic since 1970, but
Franciscans = St. Francis, http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06217a.htm

Dominicans = St. Dominic, http://www.mega.it/eng/egui/monu/smndmn.htm

Jesuit = Society of Jesus, http://www.jesuit.org/

The parochial schools that I attended were mostly run by Jesuits, an order that highly values education. The Franciscans I've known were, almost 100%, the gentlest people I've ever met.

Hope this helps! :hug:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:15 PM
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7. Jesuits were the policemen of thought and doctrine. Franciscans
were my faves. :) Weren't the Dominicans the ones with
the Inquisition? I could be wrong.
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:20 PM
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8. I'm more of a recovering Catholic,
but you can look them all up at http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:20 PM
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9. A joke...
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 10:21 PM by Davis_X_Machina
Three clerics -- one Franciscan, one Dominican and one Jesuit -- are walking in the Holy Land, and one of them asks which order is the most perfect in its Rule, mission, and ministry. Each one of course maintains that his is, and summons up Scripture and Church history and statistics and saints and such in his defense.

Given the location and the theoretical proximity of the Deity, all three finally decide to give the question into His hands for an impartial decision. They pray: "Oh Lord, send us a sign to inform us which Order is doing the most to advance Your work on earth."

There is a clap of thunder, a blinding light, and a little piece of paper floats to the ground.

The priests pick it up, and it says:

Dearly Beloved.

You are, of course, all equally valuable in My sight.

Regards.

God, S.J.


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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:55 AM
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13. Now that's funny!
:D
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 08:26 AM
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14. Our parish priest (SJ) told the following joke in a homily...
(Paraphrase) "I finally saw "Men in Black" after all these years. I was fascinated by the story line - a bunch of guys, dressed in black, trying to save the world. I thought it was about the Jesuits."

With his delivery, it brought down the house. :D
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:25 PM
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10. Jesuits are my favorites
they are the intellectuals, scientists..etc
In fact they have been persecuted by the church at times for their "liberal" leanings.

I am reading a really cool book about how the Jesuits discovered quinine in the new world...

The Franciscans are gentle, farmers, winemakers etc...

Don't know much about the Dominicans...but they all pray...they pray a lot and they don't like my type around...(female)...

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:25 PM
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11. They are different religious orders
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 11:26 PM by SOteric
a body of priests, brothers, monks, nuns, etc... organized for apostolic work, following a religious rule, and relying on alms for their support.

Lay members of the Roman Catholic church do not have any need or occasion to affiliate specifically with one order or another.

The orders themselves are known to embody different characteristics. The SOJ (Jesuits) are known for the fierce commitment to education, the science, debate and formal thought. There are several universities of excellent reputation which are run by the Jesuits. They tend to be more liberal in outlook, but like any group of people they are not a hive mentality. The Society of Jesus (Jesuits) were founded by St. Ignatius Loyola.

The Dominicans were founded by St. Dominic in the 13th century. They are an order of preachers. Their principal focus is the salvation of souls. The politics of Dominicans, in my experience has been widely varied, but I'd say the lean toward the conservative and are most likely to be found in an "anti-abortion" protest.

The Franciscans are actually 3 separate orders founded by St. Francis of Assissi; the Friars Minor, the Poor Clares and the Brothers and Sisters of Penance.

These are people who dedicate their lives to living a semi-separate or isolated existence from the body of the church, holding that the voice and sentiments of god are much clearer heard without the interferring din of humanity.

Fransicans build missions, cloisters and monasteries. Many religious hermits of the Catholic church are Franciscans. They specifically do not identify with political affiliation, nor would they consider it appropriate.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:38 AM
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12. That's a good way to describe it. (nt)
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:48 AM
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19. Well, Franciscans do stand for issues
The Franciscan nuns in my home area actively protested against the School of the Americas and the Iraqi war. They have also gotten into environmentalism recently. I ssuppose that is not having a political affililiation but it is taking a stand.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 08:32 AM
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15. If my history serves me correctly...
The Jesuit Order was the Catholic response to the Reformation. Ignatious Loyola and all that.
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Zolok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:28 AM
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16. These are all religious orders church...
different orders stress different activities.
The Jesuit's are big on serious big think learning...one must have a very high I.Q. and sound religious principals to get in.
And it takes forever to make the grade with the Jesuits as well...they do make good teachers though just keep yer eye on them.

I think the Franciscans are big on evangelism and community outreach...a few of them went to my rural catholic college and it always seemed like they were driving off to staff a clinic in Harlem somewheres.

The Dominicans stress teaching and I believe teaching at the grade level as well...my high school was run by Dominican nuns. I have no horror stories about those women they were overworked and under appreciated IMHO.

Other orders stress contemplation (the carmelites are big on this)...medical interests just about aything impacting the church has a specific order or two applied to it.
It is not a bad life if you can get past the no sex rule (as we've seen many do just that! :)....they'll educate you to the limits of your capacity, provide a useful vocation (carpentry...auto repair) if you are bored they'll find you a hobby.
Some of the monastic orders are largely self-sufficient communities...living in a near communistic state quite frankly.
it is an interesting phenomenon.

There is a sturdy myth among the catholic laity that the religious orders are a little more sane,humane, and rational than the diocesan hangers-on.
Thank Ghod for Archbishop O'Malley up in Boston, this Franciscan Friar has blow that trite bit of nonsense to hell...
Last week he freeped off bigtime and said the USA was a "hostile alien culture" for catholics.
Imagine that I had NO idea...
:)
www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:37 AM
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17. The head of the Jesuit Order is called the "Black Pope".
There has always been a great deal of competition between the mainstream Church and the Jesuits.

p.s. He's called the Black Pope not because of the color of his skin but because of the color of his robes.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:37 AM
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18. It's kind of like asking ...
What's the difference between the 101st Airborne and the 82nd Airborne? Different outfits - same army.
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