Any ideas on how to circulate this new DRAFT flyer to colleges?

[bigpathpaul]

I just wanted to let folks know that I've posted a new ad/flyer about the possibility of Bush instituting a draft.

There are 2 versions, one color and one B&W which can be downloaded at http://bigpath.net/politics/Draft/DraftStart.html.
The samples shown below are reduced-size, low-resolution. The ones on the site are full-size.

[AndyP]

1. Thankfully John Kerry is against the draft because

the draft proposals are all brought forth by Dems.

To answer your question, I would see if you could contact the college dems on campuses and send it to them. I'm sure they'd be up for it. Do a google search, I'm sure that the national college dem office would have lists to each campus (maybe).

[Maeve]

2. The draft bills were proposed to get the subject out in the open

It's the behind-the-scenes administration discussions that are much more worrisome.

[deek]

3. I have one young extroverted contact

She's very excited to distribute anything I give her. I have been reproducing your flyers and printing them as half sheets.

She absolutely loved the 3 per address label two-faced stickers.

She leaves them on her instructors' podium, at various desks in her classes, at her desk before she leaves the classroom, lying around on tables, etc.

I also give her buttons and bumperstickers to distribute.

Her friends love it!!

:bounce:

[serryjw]

4. I had a blast going to my College campus......

to do petitioning. Hand out flyers, Post on BB's they all have.They all have a quad where kids at tables congregate. You'll love it.... There were several tables with kids in Peace organizations spreading the truth about Iraq.

[Comadreja]

5. I don't know why but..

people don't take flyers from me. As described in the thread on flyers, I have to distribute them indirectly.. I tape them to student's car windows bicycles parked outside class, and at know off-campus student residences. The pentagon, BTW is flatly denying this draft thing and calling it an internet hoax. How sure can we be about this, anyway?

[dbrown]

6. Look, they're already trying to blame Dems for the Draft

Thought y'all might find this spin interesting....

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FROM: Ed Gillespie, Chairman, RNC <[e-mail]>
DATE: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:43 AM
SUBJECT: Democrats Push Draft in Congress

October 5, 2004


Dear XXXXXXXX,

Today the House will vote on a Democratic bill to reinstate the draft. President Bush and Republicans oppose a draft and seek defeat of this bill. Sen. Kerry and Sen. Edwards wrongly claim it is Republicans who support this, yet it is John Kerry who said he may be open to a draft. Below is more information about this bill, who sponsored it, what Sen. Kerry and Sen. Edwards are saying as well as the truth about President Bush's position regarding it. We need you to call talk radio shows and write letters to the editor. Let people know that it is not Republicans who support this bill, it is the Democrats.

I Need Your Help Telling the Media!

Kerry and Edwards claim it's Republicans who want a Draft, but it's Democrats who are proposing it in Congress. The Administration has been clear: President Bush opposes a draft. To call talk radio shows and write letters to the editor click here.

Sincerely,

Ed Gillespie

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Democrats Push Draft in Congress
President Bush Opposes Draft And Republicans Seek Certain Defeat Of Bill

Just Who is Proposing a Draft?

Democrat Congressman Charles Rangel (D-NY) Introduced The "Universal National Service Act Of 2003" To Reinstate Military Draft. "A BILL To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." (H.R. 163, Introduced 1/7/03 By Rep. Charles Rangel)

Today, House Of Representatives Will Vote On Rangel's Proposal, Which House Armed Services Chairman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) Vows Will Receive "Very Little Congressional Support." "Later today, the House of Representatives will debate and vote on H.R. 163, the Universal National Service Act - commonly known as the Reinstate the Draft Bill. There is very little Congressional support for reinstating the draft." (House Armed Services Committee, "House To Vote On And Reject Military Draft Bill," Press Release, 10/5/04)
Democrat Senator Ernest Hollings (D-SC) Has Introduced Identical Military Draft Legislation. "A BILL To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." (S. 89, Introduced 1/7/03 By Sen. Ernest Hollings)

Kerry and Edwards Claim It's Republicans Who Want Draft, But Kerry Is Open to Draft

Kerry Raised Possibility Draft Is Returning Under Bush. "Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, citing the war in Iraq and other trouble spots in the world, raised the possibility Wednesday that a military draft could be reinstated if voters re-elect President Bush. ... Answering a question about the draft that had been posed at a forum with voters, Kerry said: 'If George Bush were to be re-elected, given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea and Iran and other places, is it possible? I can't tell you.'" (Mary Dalrymple, "Kerry Raises Possibility That Military Draft Could Return If Bush Is Re-Elected," The Associated Press, 9/22/04)

Edwards Hinted Draft Would Return Under President Bush. "Edwards drew his biggest applause from the audience, which was heavy on union members and laid-off workers, when he responded to a question from a woman who said that her 23-year-old son recently graduated from college, and that she is worried about a draft being instituted for the war in Iraq. 'There will be no draft when John Kerry is president,' Edwards said, to applause and a standing ovation." (Jim VandeHei, "Kerry Accuses Bush Of Dishonesty On Iraq," The Washington Post, 9/16/04)

Yet Kerry Told Reporter That If Large Mobilization Is Needed, Draft Is "Only Fair Way To Do It." REPORTER: "Senator, some in your party have called for reinstating the draft. Do you think that is a good idea?" KERRY: "Not at this moment. I don't. If we had a need for a general mobilization at some time in the future, then I think that's the only fair way to do it." (WLVI's "Keller At Large," Interview Taped 12/2/03, Aired 9/26/04)

Administration Has Been Clear: President Bush Opposes Draft

Secretary Rumsfeld Called Allegations "Absolute Nonsense." "Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld heatedly denied yesterday that the military plans to bring back the draft and boost reserves and National Guard callups after the November election. 'That is absolute nonsense,' Rumsfeld told the Senate Armed Services Committee. 'It's absolutely false that anyone in this administration is considering reinstituting the draft.'" (Richard Sisk, "No Draft, No Extra Troops - Rummy," Daily News, 9/24/04)

Vice President Cheney Said Rumors Were "Hogwash." "And the notion that somebody's peddling out there that there is a secret plan to reinstitute the draft, hogwash, not true." (NBC's "Nightly News," 9/29/04)

President Bush: "We Don't Need The Draft." "No, we're not going - we don't need the draft. Look, the all-volunteer Army is working. ... I know Senator McCain and I agree on this issue for certain, the all-volunteer Army works." (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Okaloosa-Walton College, Niceville, FL, 8/10/04)

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[Giornovichi]

7. are you sure this is a good idea?

In all honesty, don't you think it hurts the cause when we distribute stuff like this that is so obviously untrue. Both candidates clearly stated during the debate they don't support a draft. And the only politicians to propose or vote in favor of the proposal were Democrats.

Unless the goal is to just win regardless the cost, maybe it's better to find another issue? Maybe emphasize the commitments on reservists who only signed up for the college tuition. But to perpetuate a mistruth only undermines our credibility...