Dean needs to plug a hole?

[douginmarshall]

:shrug:

"I need to plug that hole on the résumé, and I'm going to do that with my running mate," Dean said.

Full story. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001820759_ndig22.html


We have a President who needed to fill his resume. I want a President who has the resume.

[Jack_Dawson]

1. Amen

Choice A: Man plugging hole in resume

Choice B: The Complete Package

[SlavesandBulldozers]

5. I like Clark

but you don't do him any service by bolstering his campaign at the expense of others. I don't believe that's his style, and I don't believe he'd like to be represented by people who cast him in this light.

Additionally, it takes quite a bit of cajones, being an ex-Governor and an MD - to say you have a hole in your resume. Clearly, given Dean's intellect and accomplishments, he was making a point that you have mis-characterized.

[douginmarshall]

9. That's what a campaign is

To campaign for office is to make distinctions between you and someone else. This was not a personal attack on Dean, just pointing out where there is a difference in experience between Dean and Clark. I’m not looking for a candidate as you say, "it take quite a bit of cajones". That would apply to millions in this country. You could say that Bush has "cajones" for going into war without the support of most of the world. Is that the standard that we want?

If you just want to say nice things about your candidate go ahead, but you will never get anyone to change their mind. Why should Kerry supporters choose Clark over Dean when Kerry drops out (I know big assumption)?

I don't buy the argument that you don't say negative things about the others because the Republicans will use it. Don't you think Rove has already highlighted this quote. It didn’t affect the Reagan campaign that his running mate had called his economic plan "voodoo".

Clark is the answer

[Sean Reynolds]

7. Doesn't Clark lack in domestic issues?

Wouldn't he need to 'plug that hole'? I mean he's never been elected to any domestic office before.

So to say Clark is the complete package is a lie.

[maxr4clark]

16. So you might think

from his career in the military, but if you watch him on C-SPAN at any of the town hall meetings he's held, from the early one in Iowa to the ones recently in New Hampshire, he's pretty impressive on the domestic issues.

People ask him about health care, about jobs, about economics, about specific toxic waste dumps, etc. He gives the context of the question, then a thoughtful answer. It is very clear he has thought through all of the domestic issues in detail.

I've seen posts claiming that Clark doesn't do well responding off the cuff in the debates. I don't think that is true; I think he isn't as good at making sound-bite answers as the other candidates. Dick Gephardt is clearly practiced at giving a politician's answer to questions; that is the thing that Clark doesn't do well. If you watch the town hall meetings, he is very good on his feet. In a more traditional one-on-one debate, Clark would outshine anyone for thinking on his feet, and be competitive for knowledge of the domestic issues.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

20. Good point. Kerry's got everything

vote for John F. Kerry. No holes.

[polpilot]

22. Except support.

Dean '04...

[LA4Kerry]

23. Kerry's got everything...

he's the whole package and the REAL DEAL!

[polpilot]

28. including a new mortgage.

Dean '04...

[Vis Numar]

30. ROFLMAO,

That's a good one!

[carpetbagger]

21. No.

Masters in economics, which he taught at West Point. He worked in OMB, and while he worked on the defense budget, as well as in the WH as an aide, he gained a thorough knoledge of the budgeting and congressional processes.

Clark worked in the 1980's in a number of positions as a field-grade officer in commands where he was chosen based on his ability to bring units with drug and morale problems up to speed. His last position was as NATO Supreme Allied Commander. As such, he was in charge not only of toys that go boom, but also was responsible for the well being of the American forces in Europe, as well as their families (schools, medical care, the whole deal). I have no idea how to calculate the total number of dependents, but there were in the 1990's about 125-150k U.S. troops in Europe.

[floridaguy]

2. Dean support is fading

As people start to listen to Howard Dean and check out his qualifications, they are seeing the light. The most important thing is he is not the most "electable" Democratic candidate. That easily goes to Wesley Clark.

Don't re-elect Bush. Support Clark.

[Jim Sagle]

3. Horseshit.

[Name removed]

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[Kolesar]

6. pro Clark posters don't do much to make me like their candidate

Your post is a typical example, thoroughly devoid of content. I wonder if you bothered to think through what would be "best" for "your" candidate.

[maxr4clark]

17. Didn't see the post you're referring to...

but the one above it, #3, looks like it qualifies too.

[Mz Pip]

35. There are several

anti-Clark theads that don't make me like their candidates, either. I try to stay away from candidate bashing but don't single out Clark supporters as posting crap devoid of content.

I used to be a Dean supporter but the flamebait posted by some of his supporters has seriously turned me off. I do not know what these handful of people are trying to accomplish - maybe that we;l read the same crap posted for the gazillionth time and have some ephiphany and change our support for Clark.

THere could possibly be some things that would made me change my mind about Clark but rehashed, debunked crap posted on Drudge or Newsmax is not the way to do it.

MzPip
:dem:

[hedda_foil]

40. Hot steaming cowflops!

[deminflorida]

8. Well, I think the support for Clark is really growing in Florida..

Wes Clark comes to Pensacola on Monday..There's going to be a large warm turnout for him. It's all over the radio today...and just think we're here in the heart of the GOP's strangle hold on this state.

27 Electoral Votes and a cart load of delegates for the convention...Bob Graham is going to deliver the whole bag over to Clark on March 8. That should upset the Dean applecart at a critical time in the primaries for him.

[Vis Numar]

31. It's on March 9th

And it will be over the week before.

[RetroLounge]

10. Right...

and in what alternate universe is that?

[killbotfactory]

11. He just wants a guy with experience to back up his foreign policy vision..

So he doesn't have to keep defending it from "experienced" people like Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, or Kerry.

[He loved Big Brother]

34. killbotfactory

Have I told you lately how much I dig your posts?

You and Eloriel just might be my two favorites!

[catherineD]

12. I'm starting to think Dean puts his foot in his mouth on purpose

After all, every time he does it, he gets more tv and newspaper coverage, and from what I can make out, most voters are paying so little attention to the race, that simply getting your face in the paper is enough to raise your numbers. After all, Kerry and Lieberman have been doing better since their somewhat negative time in the limelight. And Dean keeps saying odd things. From confederate flags, to my brother was a POW, to the Republican wing of the Democratic party, to I didn't offer Clark the VPship (Clark actually only claimed that it was dangled in front of him), to the whole positioning of himself as on the left, when his record in Vermont seems closer to Lieberman's. But half the people in that recent focus group couldn't even identify all of the candidates, none of them seemed aware that Lieberman is conservative, they think the candidates aren't talking about issues, when it's the media that won't talk about issues, and one woman thought that Kucinich was just in it to find a wife (presumably since his biggest publicity has been of the recent contest to be his "date"). Maybe all of our candidates should adopt the foot-in-mouth approach.

[AP]

13. When he gets attacked, his donations shoot up. I wouldn't be surprised

if he encourages that.

He must think he's going to be impervious when these quotes turn up in opposition commercials.

[JohnKleeb]

14. Thats an interesting theory Catherine

and you're right about Kucinich, his biggest coverage :eyes: came not when he spoke out about Diebold or what not but when he made that joke about wanting a first lady. Yes the media won't talk about issues. Its weird shit honest but I wouldnt wanna put my foot in my mouth honest.

[He loved Big Brother]

15. Yes he does, but not yet.

from dictionary.cm-

resume: n.
1) A brief account of one's professional or work experience and qualifications, often submitted with an employment application.

2) A summary: a resumé of the facts of the case.

Dean has a resume, a list of past accomplishments. He is not yet the nominee, so this isn't a "hole" according to definition number one, but...onto definition number two

Dean, I'm almost sure, has a summary of the facts of the case, the case being- he may win the Democratic nomination for President in 2004 :). Not a vote has been cast yet, so he has not chosen a running mate. This is a hole he will eventually have to plug.

He is most likely waiting to see if he wins a few state primaries before picking (or announcing) his running mate.

Then he will have plugged that hole on his resume. :)

[RetroLounge]

18. Uhm, isn't that why they choose a VP?

One that will add strengths to yours?

So what's the problem?

[chimpymustgo]

19. Complement vs. supplement.

A running mate should add strengths - not plug holes.

Let's just nominate someone who doesn't need to plug holes.

[LA4Kerry]

24. Exactly!

John Kerry has it all, all by himself! A proven record on the environment, education, a great health care plan, military and foreign policy experience. He's the REAL DEAL and the whole package!!

No need to plug holes with Kerry! Let's use common sense, so we can defeat GWB!!

Kerry '04!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

39. Remind me again what FP Kerry has controlled?

[adadem]

25. absolutely correct n/t

[AP]

26. Clinton said that Gore plugged holes...

...viz environment (for the far left) and nuclear weapons and national security. However, I think it's so obvious that he was meant to reinforce even more important things about Clinton -- specifically, generational, cultural and demographic.

[He loved Big Brother]

27. Well, NONE of the candidates have a running mate

So they ALL need to "plug that hole" in their resume. And if every candidate was completely perfect in every area, the position of vice-president wouldn't even exist.

But nice try.

[Vis Numar]

29. It seems odd

Clark, is has absolutely NO EXPERIENCE, outside the military, has supporters here talking about holes in other candidates experience... look at the fucking beam in your own eye.

[Kolesar]

32. Yeah, no kidding

And Clark voted for Republicans even at at time when the gop had declared war on the environment. I recall that he voted for one of the Iran-Contra conspirators/enablers: George HW Bush.

[douginmarshall]

33. This is helpful

I love how when people have nothing to say they just attack those they are talking to. Vis. I don't think you have looked at Clark's record.

I have spent 3 months looking at the beam of light in my eye and it tells me Bush has to go and Clark is the one to make it happen.

:toast: This will be all of us when Bush is gone.

[AP]

36. They should plug the hole between his nose and his chin.

Couldn't resist.

But he does say some of the craziest things.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

37. or the apparent one above his eyes

and into the cranium.

[eileen_d]

38. With quotes like this, Rove doesn't need help.

Yeah, Dean's not my favorite, and Clark's not perfect -- but with remarks like this, Rove does not even NEED the help that Clark supporters are accused of giving him on a daily basis.